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Old 12-02-2011, 03:40 PM
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Shocking bite...

So last night I had out our Franklin, as usual...and hubby and I were watching a movie, I was laying across our bed on my side, propping my head up on my hand and my other arm was just resting on my side slightly bent at the elbow, and Franklin was just milling around like always. He walks around the bed, burrows under the blankets, and climbs all over my husband and I. You know...normal conure stuff

So anyway, Franklin had been up on my shoulder, walked down my arm, hopped onto my thigh area, walked down toward my knee, hopped off my leg onto the bed behind me. All of the sudden, out of absolutely NO WHERE! WHAM!!! I felt a stinging, pinch, almost like a bee sting on my elbow! (I was wearing a T-shirt, so nothing covering my elbow) At first I didn't know what hit me and as I sat up and moved my arm, I felt Franklin's body and he was NOT letting go!! That little stinker!

My reaction was, of course I jerked, looked at my husband, confused "OOOWWWW! What the heck!!! OH MY GAWWWDD! Franklin just bit me!, BAD! Oouch! He let go, and I when I went to pick him up, he lunged to attack, so I grabbed the first thing I could find, a shirt that was laying on the floor and picked him up, put him in his cage and covered it.

Oh - and I told him, bad boy for biting me! OUCH!

He's 8 1/2 months old and he's NEVER done anything like this before. I have a bruise on my elbow...and I do NOT bruise easily and I can still feel where he bit me, but he didn't break the skin.

It was night time anyways...when I put him in his cage and covered it...which we never cover his cage...and I didn't uncover his cage til this morning, I talked to him, opened his door, he promptly came over and let me pet him, but I had to leave for work, so I didn't take him out.

He appears in good spirits today, but dang, what on earth could have instigated a bite like that? Before he bit me, I hadn't even moved, I was just watching the movie. I suppose I'll never know, but for what ever reason, my elbow sure ticked him off! Hahahahhahaah!!!! I hope I handled it good. I didn't handle him in anger, per say, I simply picked him up with the shirt and put him in his cage and covered it.

Anyway...just thought I'd share...sure shocked me!

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Old 12-02-2011, 04:09 PM
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Re: Shocking bite...

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It was night time anyways...when I put him in his cage and covered it...which we never cover his cage...and I didn't uncover his cage til this morning, I talked to him, opened his door, he promptly came over and let me pet him, but I had to leave for work, so I didn't take him out.
Just a question and a little off topic. You said you dont normally cover his cage. Is there a reason? Just curious because I dont think Pyro likes it when I cover his cage. I do it about the same time every night and he gets very loud when I cover his cage. It's almost like he is protesting. Then someone mentioned that he might feel claustrophobic in there all covered up. Not sure if this is common in conures.
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Old 12-02-2011, 04:48 PM
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Re: Shocking bite...

I feel your pain. Keen has been in a mood today. Unlike your baby, Keen does bite me ... and a daily basis. I'll have her perched on my finger talking to her and she'll lean down and haul off & bite me. HARD. I offer her toys, treats, etc to chew on, but she always ends up biting me anyway. Doesn't feel good.
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Old 12-02-2011, 04:49 PM
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Re: Shocking bite...

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It was night time anyways...when I put him in his cage and covered it...which we never cover his cage...and I didn't uncover his cage til this morning, I talked to him, opened his door, he promptly came over and let me pet him, but I had to leave for work, so I didn't take him out.
Just a question and a little off topic. You said you dont normally cover his cage. Is there a reason? Just curious because I dont think Pyro likes it when I cover his cage. I do it about the same time every night and he gets very loud when I cover his cage. It's almost like he is protesting. Then someone mentioned that he might feel claustrophobic in there all covered up. Not sure if this is common in conures.
Well, like you, our birds indicated they didn't like to be covered either, by hissing and/or lunging at the cover from their perches. I just didn't feel like it was worth the trauma to them and didn't see the point in mandatory cage covering.

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Old 12-02-2011, 04:58 PM
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It was night time anyways...when I put him in his cage and covered it...which we never cover his cage...and I didn't uncover his cage til this morning, I talked to him, opened his door, he promptly came over and let me pet him, but I had to leave for work, so I didn't take him out.
Just a question and a little off topic. You said you dont normally cover his cage. Is there a reason? Just curious because I dont think Pyro likes it when I cover his cage. I do it about the same time every night and he gets very loud when I cover his cage. It's almost like he is protesting. Then someone mentioned that he might feel claustrophobic in there all covered up. Not sure if this is common in conures.
Well, like you, our birds indicated they didn't like to be covered either, by hissing and/or lunging at the cover from their perches. I just didn't feel like it was worth the trauma to them and didn't see the point in mandatory cage covering.

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I might stop covering his cage at night.
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Re: Shocking bite...

my birds are in the living room, right smack dab in the middle of all the activity and I am a day sleeper so I stay up all night. I have to cover my fids cage so they can get SOME sleep. I keep the lights off and just the TV on very low while I am in there but cage covering is a must for my guy and girl!
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Old 12-02-2011, 05:06 PM
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Re: Shocking bite...

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I feel your pain. Keen has been in a mood today. Unlike your baby, Keen does bite me ... and a daily basis. I'll have her perched on my finger talking to her and she'll lean down and haul off & bite me. HARD. I offer her toys, treats, etc to chew on, but she always ends up biting me anyway. Doesn't feel good.
Oh don't get me wrong, Franklin has bitten and hard and just like you describe...seems happy perched on your finger, or he wants to come out of his cage, he'll be sitting on the door opening, I"ll offer him my finger to step on to come out and he'll act like he's going to step up or give my finger a little test nibble, then wham...he'll land baste my finger with a stout bite, but he's NEVER bit like THIS before.

I've always seen it coming...meaning I'm looking at him or watching him, talking to him or playing when he's bitten before and by telling him "no bite" and "beeee nice" we've pretty much gotten his biteyness under control. I guess this bite seems different because for 1, it came from behind me and I did not SEE it coming and 2: I did absolutely NOTHING to provoke it, it's not like I moved my arm and scared him, or re-positioned myself that caught him off guard and caused a defensive bite...it seriously came out of no where!

Unlike you are describing, Franklin does not bite every day anymore, not even close, but he does bite sometimes, just never with THIS kind of vengence that he showed last night. It truly shocked me. Hopefully I shocked him just as much by putting him in his cage AND covering it for the night.

I can hope he put 2 and 2 together, but I doubt it.

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Old 12-02-2011, 06:16 PM
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Re: Shocking bite...

Be careful about abruptly placing him in the cage as means of punishment (after he bites, etc). This may case him to associate the cage with punishment/bad energy, etc, so he will become more resistant to going back into his cage in general. This happened to me and my bird started biting really hard every time it was time for her to be put back into her cage. So I had to start training all over again.
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Be careful about abruptly placing him in the cage as means of punishment (after he bites, etc). This may case him to associate the cage with punishment/bad energy, etc, so he will become more resistant to going back into his cage in general. This happened to me and my bird started biting really hard every time it was time for her to be put back into her cage. So I had to start training all over again.
What would you suggest as a disciplinary measure in place of putting a bird in the cage? I put Pyro in his cage after he does something undesirable. Only for a couple minutes though and then he's back out again.
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Old 12-02-2011, 07:22 PM
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Be careful about abruptly placing him in the cage as means of punishment (after he bites, etc). This may case him to associate the cage with punishment/bad energy, etc, so he will become more resistant to going back into his cage in general. This happened to me and my bird started biting really hard every time it was time for her to be put back into her cage. So I had to start training all over again.
What would you suggest as a disciplinary measure in place of putting a bird in the cage? I put Pyro in his cage after he does something undesirable. Only for a couple minutes though and then he's back out again.
Usually, by removing your bird from the situation and walking away from them, give them the message. Like the incident in the bedroom, I would have brought him back to the area where the cage is, bird room or such and left him by himself for a bit and gotten back to watch the movie. After a few minutes, I would have asked to step up and put him in his cage for the night WITHOUT the cover.
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