Parrot Forum Header Left  
Go Back   Parrot Forum - Parrot Owner's Community > Species Specific > Conures

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1 (permalink)  
Old 03-21-2012, 08:12 AM
jewels04's Avatar
Senior Member
Parrots:
JJ-sun conure hatched roughly 1/16/2012 Cinderella-white and blue female budgie hatched 4/08/12 Rigby-white and blue male budgie hatched 5/05/2012
Join Date: Feb 2012
Thanks: 188
Thanked 66 Times in 52 Posts
jewels04 is on a distinguished road
do you let your conure up on your shoulder?

I searched this question and couldn't find a really good answer. JJ constantly wants on our shoulders and she will keep fighting her way up even if we remove her she will keep climbing until she can get up. I spent a good hour trying to get her to stop yesterday but the only times she is still and behaves is when she is up on our shoulders. Is sitting on my shoulder bad? And if so what else besides constantly removing her can I do? And if I remove her she won't step down on anything. It's kinda funny i offer her my leg or her stand and she will just hang upside down off my finger. How do I teach her to step down on other things?
Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to jewels04 For This Useful Post:
Scotty T (03-21-2012)
  #2 (permalink)  
Old 03-21-2012, 08:21 AM
Banned
Join Date: Aug 2009
Images: 10
Thanks: 1,157
Thanked 1,958 Times in 1,420 Posts
Spiritbird has a reputation beyond reputeSpiritbird has a reputation beyond reputeSpiritbird has a reputation beyond reputeSpiritbird has a reputation beyond reputeSpiritbird has a reputation beyond reputeSpiritbird has a reputation beyond reputeSpiritbird has a reputation beyond reputeSpiritbird has a reputation beyond reputeSpiritbird has a reputation beyond reputeSpiritbird has a reputation beyond reputeSpiritbird has a reputation beyond repute
Re: do you let your conure up on your shoulder?

Conures just love to be with you on shoulder, head or in your clothes. Many people feel it is a danger for you to be bitten if the bird is distracted. Personally, I think you are wasting you time trying to get JJ to stay off your shoulder. I am one of the few that believes it is ok for a small bird like a conure to be on your shoulder.

Last edited by Spiritbird; 03-21-2012 at 10:50 AM.
Reply With Quote
The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to Spiritbird For This Useful Post:
jewels04 (03-21-2012), Scotty T (03-21-2012)
  #3 (permalink)  
Old 03-21-2012, 08:32 AM
mandolynn's Avatar
Senior Member
Parrots:
Indian Ringneck Parakeet(Flora) Red headed Amazon(Paco) Family Parrots- Blue Crowned Conure(Sapphire) Mitred Conure(Sammy) Severe Macaw(Nikita)
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: ND
Thanks: 18
Thanked 36 Times in 27 Posts
mandolynn is on a distinguished road
Re: do you let your conure up on your shoulder?

There are different ideas about birds on your shoulder. It can cause dominance issues, because they are up higher and at or above your eye level, but it depends on the bird. I usually train babies to snuggle on my chest, under my chin, instead of on the shoulder. This helps them bond with me and prevents them developing dominance issues. Larger parrots are more prone to this, but it can be an issue with any species. She probably developed the habit, but you can break it by only allowing her below eye level.
As far as stepping down goes, this is something they learn through practice just like stepping up. Try practice laddering and perching on your finger alot, and when you want her to step down lower her so her her backwards so her feet are close to the surface of where you want her to go, while saying step down. Sunnys love being upside down so shes probably just trying to play, and should learn with practice.
Reply With Quote
The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to mandolynn For This Useful Post:
jewels04 (03-21-2012), Scotty T (03-21-2012)
  #4 (permalink)  
Old 03-21-2012, 08:34 AM
jewels04's Avatar
Senior Member
Parrots:
JJ-sun conure hatched roughly 1/16/2012 Cinderella-white and blue female budgie hatched 4/08/12 Rigby-white and blue male budgie hatched 5/05/2012
Join Date: Feb 2012
Thanks: 188
Thanked 66 Times in 52 Posts
jewels04 is on a distinguished road
Re: do you let your conure up on your shoulder?

Quote: Originally Posted by Spiritbird View Post
Conures just love to be with you on shoulder, head or in your clothes. Many people feel it is a danger for you to be bitten if the bird is distracted. Personally, I think you are wasting you time trying to get JJ to stay off your shoulder. I am one of the few that believes it is ok for a small bird like a conure to be on your shoulder.
Thanks! I know the breeder allowed them up there, and like I said I spent an hour keeping her off my shoulder yesterday and she wasn't having it. I just didn't know because people always like to say if their on your shoulder they will think they are more dominant. Just checking what others allowed their conures to do.
Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to jewels04 For This Useful Post:
Scotty T (03-21-2012)
  #5 (permalink)  
Old 03-21-2012, 10:14 AM
lexx510's Avatar
Senior Member
Parrots:
Pineapple Green Cheek Conure
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Bay Area, CA
Thanks: 732
Thanked 288 Times in 223 Posts
lexx510 is on a distinguished road
Re: do you let your conure up on your shoulder?

Currently, Guava is not allowed on my shoudler because she bit my ear. The problem is that once they are on your shoulder, it is going to be very difficult to avoid a bite or get them off after they bite. I usually don't have problems with her on my shoulder, but I suspend that privilage if she is to ever bite.
A few days ago, I came home from work in the morning and, as usual, began putting fresh pellets into her food bowl. She happily jumped up on my finger, then suddenly ran up to my shoulder and bit my ear REALLY hard. She's done the exact same thing once before, when I took her out in the morning and was pouring myself a bowl of cereal. She only does this once in a blue moon, but it really hurts. I'm still working on figuring out the trigger for these bites.
__________________

Last edited by lexx510; 03-21-2012 at 10:16 AM.
Reply With Quote
The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to lexx510 For This Useful Post:
jewels04 (03-21-2012), Scotty T (03-21-2012)
  #6 (permalink)  
Old 03-21-2012, 10:49 AM
FutureDVM's Avatar
Senior Member
Parrots:
Crimson Bellied Conure (Penny), Maximillian Pionus (Piper), Lovebird (Poco)
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: Colorado
Thanks: 65
Thanked 135 Times in 103 Posts
FutureDVM is on a distinguished road
Re: do you let your conure up on your shoulder?

I do allow Penny to sit on my shoulder. She LOVES being up there and will sometimes fly up to my shoulder as soon as I get her out of her cage. I really haven't had any issues, so I will continue to let her sit on my shoulder. Of course there is always the chance that she could bite me, but I trust her enough to feel confident she won't bite. She loves to preen and nibble at my ears and neck though, but she's very gentle and knows not to bite too hard.
Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to FutureDVM For This Useful Post:
jewels04 (03-21-2012)
  #7 (permalink)  
Old 03-21-2012, 11:24 AM
echoskybound's Avatar
Senior Member
Parrots:
Wheatley - 4 year old Green Cheek Conure
Join Date: Mar 2011
Images: 1
Thanks: 14
Thanked 38 Times in 19 Posts
echoskybound is on a distinguished road
Re: do you let your conure up on your shoulder?

I'm not sure if being on the shoulder is a matter of dominance to the bird. Birds pretty much see you on their level. They feel safer being higher up, though. The problem is that they need to learn that you aren't a human playgym, and that they can only be on your shoulder by permission and if they willingly step up and down.

When I first got my conure, he would NOT stay off of our heads, and he would get angry if we tried to take him off. My solution was clicker training and target training (if you're not familiar with either one, let me know and I can point you towards some great resources!) I could get him to step down anywhere by putting the target somewhere that would require him to step off my hand. I started by clicking+rewarding if my conure was on my hand, then I rewarded him if he stayed on my hand a little longer, then I slowly increased that time until he would patiently sit on my hand.

The problem is that your shoulder is her favorite place to be, and there's no incentive for her not to be there - you need to give her a reason, like a reward for being on your hand instead. I can get my bird to go almost anywhere to reach the target. It's a very great tool for shaping a lot of behaviors.

Sometimes my conure still wants to be on my head, mostly because it's a good landing spot and it makes him feel comfortable, but he never gets rewarded for being on my head. I do, however, let him on my shoulder all the time, but he steps up when I ask him to because he knows he will probably be rewarded for it.

Last edited by echoskybound; 03-21-2012 at 11:28 AM. Reason: typos
Reply With Quote
The Following 4 Users Say Thank You to echoskybound For This Useful Post:
happycat (03-24-2012), jewels04 (03-21-2012), lexx510 (03-21-2012), Scotty T (03-21-2012)
  #8 (permalink)  
Old 03-21-2012, 12:12 PM
lexx510's Avatar
Senior Member
Parrots:
Pineapple Green Cheek Conure
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Bay Area, CA
Thanks: 732
Thanked 288 Times in 223 Posts
lexx510 is on a distinguished road
Re: do you let your conure up on your shoulder?

Quote: Originally Posted by echoskybound View Post
I'm not sure if being on the shoulder is a matter of dominance to the bird. Birds pretty much see you on their level. They feel safer being higher up, though. The problem is that they need to learn that you aren't a human playgym, and that they can only be on your shoulder by permission and if they willingly step up and down.

When I first got my conure, he would NOT stay off of our heads, and he would get angry if we tried to take him off. My solution was clicker training and target training (if you're not familiar with either one, let me know and I can point you towards some great resources!) I could get him to step down anywhere by putting the target somewhere that would require him to step off my hand. I started by clicking+rewarding if my conure was on my hand, then I rewarded him if he stayed on my hand a little longer, then I slowly increased that time until he would patiently sit on my hand.

The problem is that your shoulder is her favorite place to be, and there's no incentive for her not to be there - you need to give her a reason, like a reward for being on your hand instead. I can get my bird to go almost anywhere to reach the target. It's a very great tool for shaping a lot of behaviors.

Sometimes my conure still wants to be on my head, mostly because it's a good landing spot and it makes him feel comfortable, but he never gets rewarded for being on my head. I do, however, let him on my shoulder all the time, but he steps up when I ask him to because he knows he will probably be rewarded for it.
Excellent advice!
__________________
Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to lexx510 For This Useful Post:
Scotty T (03-21-2012)
  #9 (permalink)  
Old 03-21-2012, 12:35 PM
JensFlock's Avatar
Senior Member
Parrots:
Eclectus, Blue Crowned Conure, Quaker, Lineolated Parakeet, Diamond Dove, Star Finch, Spice Finch
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: South Carolina
Thanks: 46
Thanked 75 Times in 57 Posts
JensFlock is on a distinguished road
Re: do you let your conure up on your shoulder?

I've heard many different opinions about that too. Two of my birds will sit there and not bite, and cuddle up against my neck, so I let them do it.
My quaker is iffy with the biting, so he's not allowed on the shoulders.
__________________
Sydney Alex Tiki Chiquita Luna Devon Rogan
Reply With Quote
The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to JensFlock For This Useful Post:
jewels04 (03-21-2012), Scotty T (03-21-2012)
  #10 (permalink)  
Old 03-21-2012, 01:34 PM
jewels04's Avatar
Senior Member
Parrots:
JJ-sun conure hatched roughly 1/16/2012 Cinderella-white and blue female budgie hatched 4/08/12 Rigby-white and blue male budgie hatched 5/05/2012
Join Date: Feb 2012
Thanks: 188
Thanked 66 Times in 52 Posts
jewels04 is on a distinguished road
Re: do you let your conure up on your shoulder?

so far when she does go up there she just sits, sometimes plays with my hair and sometimes grooms my neck. She hasn't given me any problems so far but I would like to teach her that she needs permission to go up there. Usually while I hold her it's a fight to keep her off my shoulder and I am constantly chasing her off my arm.
Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to jewels04 For This Useful Post:
Scotty T (03-21-2012)
Reply

Lower Navigation
Go Back   Parrot Forum - Parrot Owner's Community > Species Specific > Conures


Search tags for this page

conure bird always wanna be on my shoulder

,

conure only wants to sit on shoulder

,

how to keep conure off shoulder

,
letting a conure on your head
,

my bird only wants to be on my shoulder

,
quaker wont stop biting my ears
,

should i let my parrot sit on my shoulder

,

why does conure stay on my shoulder

,

why does my bird always wants to be on my shoulder

,

why does my parrot want to sit on my shoulder

Click on a term to search for related topics.

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Shoulder sitting? mnsalani Eclectus 12 06-29-2011 04:03 PM
CAG won't get off my shoulder CAGLulu Questions and Answers 9 06-09-2011 03:54 AM
shoulder off or on? Harleyboy Macaws 19 04-15-2011 10:41 PM
Sitting on shoulder bblackburn03 Behavioral 6 06-09-2010 04:46 PM
Shoulder-Bird-No-More???? _Cass_ Questions and Answers 3 04-13-2010 02:36 AM



Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2019, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.