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Old 06-30-2012, 07:56 PM
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Re: Why do so many birds get sick and die young?

I agree with all of you. I have a great bird vet that has seen one of my 7 birds. I don't take unnecessary chances with my fids, but I sure don't shelter them too much, either.
I always worry about taking my birds to the vets and having the possibility of a sick bird being there and contaminating my bird!!!
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Old 06-30-2012, 08:17 PM
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Re: Why do so many birds get sick and die young?

mcw009 what kind of work do you do to need blood from that many finches?
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Old 06-30-2012, 08:18 PM
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Re: Why do so many birds get sick and die young?

Quote: Originally Posted by JensFlock View Post
I agree with all of you. I have a great bird vet that has seen one of my 7 birds. I don't take unnecessary chances with my fids, but I sure don't shelter them too much, either.
I always worry about taking my birds to the vets and having the possibility of a sick bird being there and contaminating my bird!!!
I feel the same way. Only sick animals go to vets and that is where the germs are, just like in our doctor's office. I don't go there either unless absolutely necessary.
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Re: Why do so many birds get sick and die young?

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mcw009 what kind of work do you do to need blood from that many finches?
I'm a research tech at a college; we monitor a contaminant in their blood on a monthly basis and had around 800 individuals at the peak of the experiment.
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Old 06-30-2012, 09:36 PM
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Re: Why do so many birds get sick and die young?

An environmental contaminant? Or experimental?
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Re: Why do so many birds get sick and die young?

The gene pool is muddled. There is no new blood, because no birds are allowed to be introduced. This causes weaknesses, and you will notice, if you have been around birds as long as I have, they are getting smaller.
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Old 06-30-2012, 09:43 PM
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Re: Why do so many birds get sick and die young?

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The gene pool is muddled. There is no new blood, because no birds are allowed to be introduced. This causes weaknesses, and you will notice, if you have been around birds as long as I have, they are getting smaller.
That is very true, they do get smaller when they are over bred and inbred.
Good point.
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An environmental contaminant? Or experimental?
We're studying the effects of environmentally-relevant, sublethal levels of mercury.

My point was just that taking blood like that is really no big deal at all.
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Old 07-01-2012, 10:12 AM
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Re: Why do so many birds get sick and die young?

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Quote: Originally Posted by JensFlock View Post
I agree with all of you. I have a great bird vet that has seen one of my 7 birds. I don't take unnecessary chances with my fids, but I sure don't shelter them too much, either.
I always worry about taking my birds to the vets and having the possibility of a sick bird being there and contaminating my bird!!!
I feel the same way. Only sick animals go to vets and that is where the germs are, just like in our doctor's office. I don't go there either unless absolutely necessary.
Agreed as well! No chances - to my understanding, birds are more sensitive and fragile... especially regarding their olfactory system. Using nonstick cookware can kill them, but I doubt it's doing much good for humans, apart from making that egg easier to slide off the pan... and don't show the bird the egg, either ...

And, yep, only as necessary and not just because of the cost. One sick birdy in for care can lead - ironically - spread it.

Great. Now I'm worried about bringing in Tybbi...
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Old 07-01-2012, 10:15 AM
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Re: Why do so many birds get sick and die young?

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The gene pool is muddled. There is no new blood, because no birds are allowed to be introduced. This causes weaknesses, and you will notice, if you have been around birds as long as I have, they are getting smaller.
A guest speaker at my aviculture club stated the same thing, about not introducing new birds. Pity he's not local... but, yeah, especially with inbreeding, the species will get weaker...

Ironic, as evolution stated with smaller, simpler organisms that weren't very many doing not dissimilar things...

It is one regulation that could deserve to be changed. Especially with deforestation, preservation of habitat-centric areas is not enough. Needing people to care for species can't hurt either...
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