thank you!

Did you do it, or did you have someone else clip them? If clipped properly she should not be able to FLY per se. However she should be able to flutter down gracefully if she falls/jumps. If a properly clipped bird does take of from a high perch they can usually get a decent distance, but they should not be able to fly back UP.

As far as becoming handleable, I suspect with a little time and patience she absolutely could be if you'd like. Bribery can work wonders. Find a treat she really likes but isn't comfortable taking from you yet. Set it down close to her, but between you and her. Repeat over and over again each time getting closer to you - you can do several treats in one sitting, but by repeat I mean do it again each day working closer. If/when she is coming all the way up to you to get the treat then keep your hand BY it but not touching it. Then touching it, then holding, etc.

You can speak softly and calmly to her while doing this, but don't "praise" her enthusiastically. Basically you want her to stretch her boundaries of trust; you will be encouraging her to test the waters, and if you jump up yelling "good bird!" she'll run away thinking your crazy and scary. Essentially you want her to learn that when she approaches you NOTHING happens, except that she gets the food.

Most (if not all) aggression in animals towards people is due to fear. If you can replace the fear of not knowing what might happen if she goes near you with positive anticipation of getting treats when she goes near you being close to you will be a happy thing for her. And from there you can build a relationship - petting, grooming, snuggling, etc. So it won't ALWAYS be about the treat, but its a good place to start building the trust.

I included that last part as people want their pets to "love them, not just the treats".... its a bit of a pet peeve of mine, and can be remedied by noting objectively that humans aren't so different: Ask yourself, how does a romantic relationship between humans often begin? DINNER. I may be confident that once a woman gets to know me she will love me for who I am, but taking her out to a nice restaurant and getting her nice (but in the big picture trivial) things on the first/early dates makes it much more likely that she will stick around long enough to get to know who I really am.

Now, if you could only teach him to pay rent he'd be the PERFECT roommate!

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Nooo, he doesn't pay rent, but he HAS ensured that I wont get my security deposit back

That is unless they LIKE polkadotted carpet.

Thats what a bissell is for.

Training a very unsociable bird can take some time and patience.

I would offer really yummy treats to the little one a few times a day so he/she knows you mean no harm and gets used to seeing your hands, also if you can get a friend or family member to join in, offer them a treat in front of your bird and have them get really excited. Birds learn from others and experience so if your bird sees someone else getting a treat and did not die from it then maybe it's not so bad to except a treat.

IMO, training every day a few times a day and keeping each session short might work best.

Also be consistent with routines, like bedtime, breakfast etc. Pick a routine that you can live with. NOW this doesn't mean that if you are late with breakfast once in a while that your bird will be devastated BUT birds do better with consistancy.

http://www.concentric.net/~Conure/conures.shtml

I was worried about the same thing, so what Christy and I have done is that we went out and bought a $1 vinal clear shower curtain liner and cut it to fit under "the twins" cages ... nice and easy clean-up and the carpet is protected.

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yup, thats the plan for the NEXT place. Nothing teaches like life experience...

Anyways, we've steered this thread far enough off track...

Is dranger here? hows the bird?

I'm still here ... Kiwi is doing good... she screams her head off if I stick my hand in the cage for any reason. She has learned to bark like my dogs...
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Oh jeez ... ... seriously, find me one thread in this entire forum that stayed on track for the duration of the thread ... we are not known around here for staying on track ... the only thing that is predictable, is the unpredictability.

Dranger, welcome to the wonderful world of being owned by a conure ... Morning screaming, mid-morning screaming, late-morning screaming shortly followed by early-afternoon screaming, then (their favorite) lunch time screaming ... Oh, wait, what's that noise, that sounds interesting, I bet I can make that sound too .... Hamlet (my sun conure) likes to *beep* like the microwave ... luckily they are just too darn cute and we allow them to get away with it.

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here are some more pictures of her. Here is her new cage. It's a homemade one, but is much larger then her old one. I plan on adding some more branches and toys.
I sold a white face glider to a friend so she is going to buy me a large bird tee stand in trade for the glider when the bird fair is in town.