Will my devil bird ever bond to me?

Devilbird

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About a month ago I bought a four month old pearly conure. I was told she was the sweetest most cuddly bird but quickly found out that this wasn't true. I was only able to meet her once before I could take her home, since her breeder is four hours away, and it was the same day I was purchasing her. When I got there I met her breeder, who was an amazingly nice person and boasted about her amazing birds who were all in healthy happy living conditions, but when I saw the cage my pearly was in I was quite shocked. It was maybe slightly larger than her wing span and I was told she lived there with her brother who was just recently sold. She had no toys, just dishes, a thin wooden perch and newspaper. Then I met my bird and she stepped up onto my finger fine but bit really hard to do so. I was told it was normal, and when she bit me while standing on my finger I was told she was crabby from staying in her tiny cage. I believed her, spent some time with my new pearly and her breeder who told me about her and her favourite things, that her brother wasnt the nicest conure, and I learned she had been in a house before me and was returned. I didn't ask why but I should have, this was my first parrot and I was so excited to see her and have her on my shoulder that I was oblivious to red flag that were parading around.

Then I took her home. The first week I kept invading her new space to a minimum, I only opened her cage to change her food and water and switch out her newspaper. I talked softly to her as I was supposed to and sat next to her cage. After awhile I opened her cage and let her come to the door where I would ask her to stepup and she did so with a hard bite from time to time but it didn't bother me. Then her biting got worse and she'd bite for no reason, I never reacted and I wouldn't move my hand or sometimes I would push my fingers closer as I read when I reasearched conures. When the biting didn't stop I got on the computer and started looking for anything I could about conure biting and decided on putting her in her cage and ignoring her when she bit me and working on teaching her tricks (stepdown,wave, and gentle) but it still continued. She bites when I accidentally touch her feet, she bites when I'm giving her a treat and as she eats it, she bites when I'm asking her to stepup off my shoulder or head, she bites when I pet her, she bites and chases my hands when I switch her food and dishes, she bites whenever she's playing with me and a toy (She likes shredded paper so I filled toilet paper rolls with it and she pulls them out and shakes them), she tries to bite through the cage if my hand gets too close, and she bites for absolutely no reason when standing on my finger. I've tried a lot of things, wearing oven mitts, ignoring her, wobbling my hand when she bites which causes her to bite harder, rewarding her for being gentle, and of course telling her no whenever she bites. I've never harmed her, I love animals way too much to ever lay a hand on them (and my room is literally a zoo I have tarantulas, a snake, two rats, geckos and a chihuahua who comes and goes). I think possibly she started getting worse when she landed on my rat cage and they yanked on her feet which caused her to freak out and bite and screech while I tried to free her. She was fine, my rats used their paws and not their teeth, but we were both pretty shaken. I moved their cage away from her hang out area by the windowsill.

She's not always so terrible tho. When we aren't enemies she cuddles against my neck and very gently preans me, will let me kiss her beak and even extends her neck to meet my lips, chirps happily by the window, when she sees new people, when she's having a bath, or when I take her downstairs on my shoulder, she rests her head on my hand when I scratch her, always wants to see where I am and will sometimes try and fallow me out of my room, plays nicely with me occasionally.. But this doesn't happen nearly as much as her aggressive behavior.

What should I do now? Did I do something wrong to cause her to hold a grudge? Will she ever bond to me and will her aggression go away eventually? I want to keep her but if nothing changes I'll give her to an expirienced rescuer and probably not get a bird ever again.

TLDR; I have an extremely aggressive devil bird who I want to keep but will get rid of if I can't even slightly change her behaviour by next year. Any advice?

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Cage size L30cm W24cm H18cm
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Eating pellets, seed, fruit and veggies

Thanks in advance. I love her dearly and I hope I can work this out.
 

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Am wondering if you keep all these animals in your room. Parrots bite for 2 reasons control & fear. Maybe he is afraid of all your creepy crawlies. Maybe the first buyer hurt him.

I would say she/he is biting out of fear. You have to gain this birds trust. That could take some months.

I have been working with a GCC for the last few months. He is 2 years old & would attack his owner. I think he was abused as he has taken such a long time to start trusting that i am not going to hurt him.

What i have been doing with him, when out of the cage i take him completely out of sight of the cage to a neutral area of the house. I have a hand towel & wrap him in it & we play games like peek-a-boo. I roll him on his back & tickle his tummy. Since i have had him he has never bitten me once. Slowly he is trusting me but i still can't get him to come out of his cage when i ask him, that i have to work on. I think my little guy is going to take a long time to be comfortable with my hands entering his cage.

One thing i did do it give him a different cage. He has stopped being cage aggressive since i did that.

I hope you can make a difference in Devils life. Because if you don't he/she is just going to be passed around from owner to owner. Be confident in handling him.
 

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Have you noticed anything that triggers this behavior, or does it appear to be random? If you try to pick her up, and she steps away from you, do you continue to convince her, or do you leave her alone?

WHen I first got Puck he would bite when I tried to hold him when he didn't want to be held. After we got through that, I discovered that he had mood swings, and was easily overstimulated, and I had to learn what body language meant I'd get attacked. Sometimes he would even make kissy noises to try and lure me over so he could bite me. Then 10 minutes later he would try to mate with me!

Also, you might want to consider a different name. Reinforcing that the bird is a "Devil" might not be the best idea, considering the problems you guys are having. Maybe you could try something like Angel instead. Just a thought. :)
 

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Am wondering if you keep all these animals in your room. Parrots bite for 2 reasons control & fear. Maybe he is afraid of all your creepy crawlies. Maybe the first buyer hurt him.

I would say she/he is biting out of fear. You have to gain this birds trust. That could take some months.

I have been working with a GCC for the last few months. He is 2 years old & would attack his owner. I think he was abused as he has taken such a long time to start trusting that i am not going to hurt him.

What i have been doing with him, when out of the cage i take him completely out of sight of the cage to a neutral area of the house. I have a hand towel & wrap him in it & we play games like peek-a-boo. I roll him on his back & tickle his tummy. Since i have had him he has never bitten me once. Slowly he is trusting me but i still can't get him to come out of his cage when i ask him, that i have to work on. I think my little guy is going to take a long time to be comfortable with my hands entering his cage.

One thing i did do it give him a different cage. He has stopped being cage aggressive since i did that.

I hope you can make a difference in Devils life. Because if you don't he/she is just going to be passed around from owner to owner. Be confident in handling him.




my green cheek was put i a cage with much bigger birds when i bought her 6 months ago now the back of his neck is still bald and she only comes to me she does the same to strangers but never bites me:rainbow1
 

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Mango is not a conure, but he also bit us fairly often when we first got him. It took a while before he would let us touch him aside from stepping up. He still nips us sometimes a month later, but it gets better everyday. Sometimes when he is really nippy I put him on his cage and try some trick training to distract him and give us both something to do. he gets seeds as treats and will do just about anything for them. After we go back to step up and I always touch him and use my hands even though he sometimes nips.
 

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Whomever that breeder is, what a horrible breeder....My birds aren't kept in a small cage as there's plenty of space for them to move around, play, etc. She basically took advantage of you by lying to you.

So far I only have one baby returned to me but that was under our agreement that they will relinquish them back to me IF they decided they can't keep them anymore. They had him for over a year. He came back to me fearful and mean, he did NOT leave my home like that. She agreed he was good for a long time. She did mention her sons used to terrorize her previous bird by shaking the cage and tap it real hard plus throw stuffs at the previous bird. She did not see them do so to my baby but she's not sure as he suddenly turned mean one day. When I watched him the first time he was plain evil and draw blood 100% of the time, but this time he stays with me for good. I changed his cage and he have cage mates. All of a sudden he's a different bird and have not bit me once so far and he's been back for almost a month. He's really good about coming out to play and doesn't do anything evil like he was doing before. So yes your Devil bird can change as I've dealt with numerous devil birds in the past that changed over time. It just takes a lot of training and patience.
 

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When I got my gcc, previous owner said he used to bite like crazy, couldn't touch him coz he'd bite and was really skittish.
Got him home into a big cage, lots of toys, and learnt after 1-2 times not to invade his cage space and act like a threat. I just opened the cage door and if he wanted to come out so be it. This went on for about a month. Then started giving him treats- put a sun flower seed on his perch and remove my hand and he'd take it. Then started clicker training, working my way up SLOWLY to bigger tasks. From a bird that was EXTREMLY skittish, to a bird that comes to my shoulder. Pretty big change . You need ALOT of patience. Do not push boundrys. If It looks like he doesn't like something, stop immediately. It's taken me about 6 months? To get to where I am, and I'm still yet to be allowed to pet my bird.

Hope that gives you some ideas to try
 

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About a month ago I bought a four month old pearly conure. I was told she was the sweetest most cuddly bird but quickly found out that this wasn't true.... Then I met my bird and she stepped up onto my finger fine but bit really hard to do so. I was told it was normal, and when she bit me while standing on my finger I was told she was crabby from staying in her tiny cage.

The bird could have been very sweet and handable by the breeder but her behavior could have changed with you simply because she doesn't know you.

I often see and hear of birds that no one can handle, and then all of a sudden, one person, out of dozens of people, if not more, can handle this bird. A bird that everyone thought wasn't hand-able simply wasn't hand-able by the right person!

I hear of birds that are affectionate, sweet and don't bite being rehomed, and they are the complete opposite in the 2nd home.

Likewise, I've heard of "terror birds" who bite and scream and once in another home they are the perfect angels!

I don't agree with how the breeder kept the bird, but I'd hate to see a good breeder get a bad rap simply because the birds behavior was not what you expected it to be.


After awhile I opened her cage and let her come to the door where I would ask her to stepup and she did so with a hard bite from time to time but it didn't bother me.

You have only had her for about a month. A month isn't a long time to earn a birds trust. Sometimes it can take several months if not years... Although, granted, she is supposedly a young bird, I half wonder if the previous owners may have taught her some bad behaviors.

Then her biting got worse and she'd bite for no reason, I never reacted and I wouldn't move my hand or sometimes I would push my fingers closer as I read when I reasearched conures. When the biting didn't stop I got on the computer and started looking for anything I could about conure biting and decided on putting her in her cage and ignoring her when she bit me and working on teaching her tricks (stepdown,wave, and gentle) but it still continued.
Apparently, ignoring her isn't working!



[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oNPPFBxANQc]Take the Bite - YouTube[/ame]


I see that you've realized this already!


She bites when I accidentally touch her feet
When do you accidentally touch her feet.

she bites when I'm giving her a treat and as she eats it
You might try putting something between your fingers and the treat. Something like a teaspoon/tablespoon, baby spoon, etc. Something that will keep your fingers out of her reach.

she bites when I'm asking her to stepup off my shoulder or head
This is pretty common... birds enjoy being up high and if they don't want to come down, they'll bite. Is there any treat she'll go googoo gaga over? Sunflower seeds? Millet? Dried fruit? Healthy nuts? Maybe even cheerios? Something simple and small.

You may need to restrict shoulder access until you can teach her that stepping up can be rewarding for her rather than staying put where she's at. Likewise, if she enjoys your shoulder and she gets up there and wont come down, you might see if she'd be willing to get down to her cage.

she bites when I pet her
How are you trying to pet her? You can't pet birds like you can cats and dogs, and not all birds enjoy being petted.

she bites and chases my hands when I switch her food and dishes
Either teach her to station on a perch away from her dishes or get her out of her cage prior to messing with her dishes.

larajoseph.wordpress.com/category/training/stationing/

she bites whenever she's playing with me and a toy
Either don't put your fingers within biting reach or don't rile her up.

she tries to bite through the cage if my hand gets too close
Don't put your hands too close to the side of the cage?

and she bites for absolutely no reason when standing on my finger.
Birds *ALWAYS* bite for a reason! Maybe she's being curious, maybe something startled her, maybe she's bored. There's a reason to it!

RP - Biting


I've tried a lot of things, wearing oven mitts, ignoring her, wobbling my hand when she bites which causes her to bite harder, rewarding her for being gentle, and of course telling her no whenever she bites.
Oven mitts can be scary things that she might want to attack.

Wobbling your hand is only telling her that you are *not* a safe place to perch and she has to bite to hold on...

Rewarding for being gentle is good, but you need to keep it up.

If she doesn't understand what "No" means, then it means nothing to her.

Distract, distract, distract! Give her beak something to chew on prior to her getting into the mood to bite! After all, if she's playing with toys or other objects, she'll have a hard time to bite you at the same time!

And just to reiterate this link... that I posted above....
Living With Parrots Cage Free: Does Ignoring Really Work?


I've never harmed her, I love animals way too much to ever lay a hand on them (and my room is literally a zoo I have tarantulas, a snake, two rats, geckos and a chihuahua who comes and goes). I think possibly she started getting worse when she landed on my rat cage and they yanked on her feet which caused her to freak out and bite and screech while I tried to free her.
Think this was mentioned before, but could the other animals be causing her to bite more? Is there any way to move her into another room without all those animals?




What should I do now? Did I do something wrong to cause her to hold a grudge? Will she ever bond to me and will her aggression go away eventually? I want to keep her but if nothing changes I'll give her to an expirienced rescuer and probably not get a bird ever again.

TLDR; I have an extremely aggressive devil bird who I want to keep but will get rid of if I can't even slightly change her behaviour by next year. Any advice?

Honestly, I'm not reading about an aggressive bird.... what I'm reading is about a bird who is greatly misunderstood by her owner who doesn't know how to handle her.

Please, if you can, learn to read her body language and learn to work with her in better ways! It *will* improve if you can learn to understand her better!
 
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Thank you everyone who replied!
It means a lot and gives me much hope that we'll end up inseparable.

Pedro
All my animals are pretty much out of sight since they are all nocturnal besides my dog and rats. But the rat cage is only viewable when I'm carrying her from her cage to her play area (tho they do occasionally squeak when they play) and she'll walk right up to my dog no problem but my dog won't go near her (or any of my pets if it moves, she's a pansy).

More months, got it!

I've never considered that she may have been abused. That's quite concerning..

I plan to get her a lovely big cage one day so hopefully that will help with her cage aggression too!

Thank you Pedro! I do really love her and want to keep her, but if I did give her away it would be to someone who can deal with her aggressiveness and not an everyday bird owner.


Remy
A mix of both I'd say, but maybe I don't know her well enough yet to see what I'm doing wrong when I think they're random. She does move away when she's coming to the door of the cage and isn't fully on it yet and I extend my hand too soon, but I just wait until she comes back and fully is standing on it. She doesn't back away when she's fully on it. She does back away when I try and get her off my shoulder tho, and when I have to take her away from her windowsill and back in her cage so I can leave the room. Those are the only times I persist. I think she bites when I ask her to stepup in a "I'll do it but I don't like it" way? Maybe I should have treats on hand to give her as she stepsup? But she has managed to still bite while holding her treat so it might not even work, she's very tricky!

That reminds me of a parrot I met as a child that would say "come here" to people and then try and bite them! I'm not quite sure she is mood swingy because her biteyness can last a few hours to day.
Your bird sounds like he really likes you tho! Haha

I'll consider it! Maybe I'll call her Devi instead.
Thanks, Remy!


Bubbaanddaisy
As far as I know she hasn't had any problems with plucking thankfully.
Thank you tho!


MeganMango
She's great at steppingup, her breeder made sure of that! She just bites too hard on the way up and bites afterwards but sometimes it's just a little poke and nothing. I try to use my hands as much as possible when I train her because I want to get her to understand which pressures are okay and not okay. So I guess I'm doing right on that maybe?
Thank you!

MikeyTN
Her birds were perfectly fine and all looked healthy, including mine. It was very obvious she dedicated a lot of her time to her birds, it was pretty much her entire life! I'm not sure why my bird was in such a tiny cage, but I do think she possibly wasn't telling the truth when she said my bird was crabby because of it that day.

I'm sorry to hear that about your bird, poor guy, but I'm glad knowing he's safe and happy with you now! And it means a lot to me what you said, I'm very relieved. Thank you so much!

Jayserileytekno
Thank you so much for the advice, it's very helpful! And I'll try to be more patient with her.


MonicaMC
She actually bit her too quite a few times while she was handling her. At the time I just went with the crabby because of the small cage thing. She wasn't angelic and then switched to aggressive once I brought her home, she was nippy since the first day I met her and onwards.

And no, I'm not blaming her for my birds outcome, I don't know why my bird is the way she is or why she was in such a small cage. I think her breeder is a very dedicated bird person but I was implying that she might have been lying about her "crabbiness".

To the articles- I saw this coming. Whilst searching how to correct behaviors nearly all the answers I found were different almost each time. I was very confusing at first but I came to the conclusion that people should tell other people to find what works with their bird rather than what should be done with their bird and what shouldn't be done with their bird. Many answers I've gotten say that you shouldn't spray your bird with water but if it works with the article writers bird than great, but it doesn't mean it'll work for everyone's bird. Or even for their bird's owner. I've even read that you shouldn't tell a bird no when they do something wrong or they might get a kick out of hearing it. I've seen training videos where the bird is rewarded and praised once they calm down, which ended up working for that bird but the metaphorical bird in this article continued bad behaviour until it calmed down thinking it would be rewarded again for doing exactly that all over again. I think the body language article and video has both potentials to work or make it worse depending on the bird, just as taking and not taking the bite works for some people or may not work for others. Nonetheless I will try reading her body language and removing my hand since I feel this might boost trust. Thank you.

When I ask her to stepup off my shoulder or head when I can't see her properly or at all and I will occasionally I touch her feet instead of her belly.

That's a great idea! I'll be sure to try that for offering treats.

She loves apples and black sunflower seeds the most. I usually always have some in the fridge or on hand and I thought about doing this so I'll definitely do it.

I pet her down her back and along her wings with no problems, but when I pet the back of her neck or the top of her head she'll be fine and purring one moment and then suddenly bite the next. I assume it's because she's had enough.

I'll try stationing her on her windowsill, that's very helpful.

I'll use different toys and I'm obviously not trying to be bitten when my hands are near the cage.

She will come to her cage door, stepup onto my finger while biting hard, let go, and then instantly bite and twist the finger she's standing on. Is there a reason for this?

I didn't wobble my finger for no reason, I only did it when she was biting. It sometimes worked but not always so I don't do it anymore.
I'll continue to reward her for being gentle.
She does stop biting when I say no, but will do it again a few minutes later or will ignore it when she's in her cage.
I will work on distracting her when I take her out.

My animals are nocturnal so they sleep in their hides during the day. She only sees my rats and dog every now and then but I don't bring her near my rats and she's fine with my dog.

Thank you for your advice, I appreciate it!
 

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Generally speaking, it's not recommended to pet a parrot down the back or on the wings/tails. Doing so may sexually stimulate them.

The "earthquake" method (aka wobbling) when a bird bites is what I'm talking about. Some birds bite harder rather than letting go because they are trying to stay *ON* your hand... and if you keep shaking your hand every time they bite, you may teach them that you aren't a stable perch. This was the case with my cherry headed conure. He bit because he didn't trust me and he needed to make sure I was stable, but I didn't know that. I read and was told to use the "earthquake" method, and I did... and he bit more! Noel has bad eyesight and bad grip, so the earthquake method may cause him to fall rather than to stop biting so he'd bite harder to stay put.

Once I learned more about Noel, I realized that the earthquake method was counterproductive. *IF* he became unstable (i.e. slipped on a perch while trying to get to me to step up) I had to allow him one good bite to show him that yes, I'm a stable perch! And yes, it's ok to step up! After that, no more bites!

Now, I'm not telling you to "take the bite" like I did, because your conure doesn't have the health problems that Noel did! Rather, only giving you an example of how a "trusted method" doesn't always work.



You might want to try opening your birds cage, putting your hand either on the door or level with the door, then showing your conure her favorite treat. If she comes near the cage door, give her the treat. Show her another treat, and if she comes a little closer, give it to her. Keep doing this until she's at the door of the cage. Next step, put the treat just out of reach over your hand so she has to stretch really far to get said treat. If she does, allow her to take it. Then have the treat a little further away so she has to put at least one foot on your hand to reach said treat. Reward. Repeat until she has both feet on your hand. Jackpot! Give her a bigger reward!

If she loves her treats well enough, she'll be busier trying to get said treat than to bite you. Your next goal is to keep her busy while on your hand! This may require leather strips, foot toys, beads, treats, etc in your other hand. In other words, keep her beak busy with something other than your flesh and learn to read her body language for when she's about to bite!
 

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Baahahahaha.. this is fitting of my new devil bird...sorry.. not making fun.. I truly feel your pain OP. I truly do!
 

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Monica, nothing against you or anything but the Youtube video you posted, I find her kinda annoying....lol
 

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I think I would restrict shoulder/head access until the biting issue is resolved. Sometimes they think your shoulder is their territory, and get mad when you try to move in on it (like put your hand there to pick them up, talk on the phone, move your head...). If she behaves on your shoulder, she gets to hang out there, but if she doesn't, she doesn't get the shoulder.

Darcy loooooves the shoulder, but if he misbehaves while there I'm quick to take him off and set him down. He's doing pretty good. Sometimes, because it seems like his favorite thing ever, if he does something I like I will reward him by setting him on my shoulder, even if it's just for a little bit.

I have several scars from before I learned Puck's body language, lol. With some birds, it's part of the learning curve.

Also, how hard is she biting? Does it hurt? Is she drawing blood? They do use their mouths like hands, so not all mouthings are bites. I assume you know, but not everyone does. Sometimes I would hand Puck to someone, and he'd just use his beak gently to stabilize while he moved on to their hand, and they'd say "he bit me!" when it obviously wasn't a bite.
 

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Knew I was forgetting something... Also wanted to mention aggression.

Aggression is where the bird typically goes out of their way to attack you, especially when outside of the cage.

Fear is typically where a bird tries to get away from you and you proceed to chase the bird and get bitten in the process. Fight or flight response. Take away flight (aka escape), and all you have left is to fight.

And of course there's exploratory bites. Those that start out as nibbling and progress to harder and harder bites.

It's possible she was accidentally taught to bite. I also wondered if this might be the male instead of the female. I really don't know!


MikeyTN, I guess it doesn't particularly matter as long as you understood the point about the message she was trying to get across! LOL
 
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Haha, I feel you too, man. Good luck!

Remy & MonicaMC
She doesn't have any problems coming to her cage to be let out, she never has and almost always does. The only time she backs away from my hand is when I ask her to stepup while she's still in her cage/occasionally on the windowsill/on my shoulder. I don't put my hand in the cage anymore, she's only allowed on my shoulder when she's being gentle, but I have persisted stepup while she was on the windowsill/shoulder either because I have to leave the room or I have to take her back to her cage to poop. Also, she just started putting her head under my finger and biting instead of stepping up when I ask her to.

I feel hopeless. Everytime I think we're making progress and we are actually having a really nice day together she gets really nasty. It takes me completely by surprise too. Today she was sitting on my arm while I spoke to her when she went over to my hand and started biting and twisting. When I took her outside on Saturday she was calmly sitting on my knee when I went to give her a piece of apple which resulted in her nibbling it, then screeching and trying to bite.

She bites hard enough to draw blood most of the time, my hands are absolutely covered in tiny cuts which is really embarrassing. I don't mind her nibbles and she does have explorative bites.

But I don't know, guys.
Maybe I'm not the right person for this bird. Or just not a good bird owner period. I feel pretty defeated.
 

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I feel for you, I do!


I'm half wondering what the breeder would suggestion if you spoke with them....
 
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I'll send her an email.

But last night my little devil got very cuddly and was pressing into my finger to let me scratch her head and I felt tiny pin feathers. Maybe she's being nippy and crazy due to her first molt and I just purchased her at a bad time? Is that possible?
 

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Wild Caught ARN - Sylphie 2013
It is quite possible!


Although, I do consider conures to be brats and she's giving you a run for your money! LOL

I really think that in time, and really learning to read her moods, things will get better! Heck, maybe she'll calm down a tad if she'll allow her to help her with her pins? Have you tried giving her a bath or shower yet?
 
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Last update!
Thank you so much to everyone who replied. My little devil is actually being quite a sweety! She hasn't bitten me for a few days and I'm very glad, I fell in love with her all over again.

I assumed she was so nippy because she was going through her first molt (and this was confirmed by her breeder), and still is, but all your advice and stories won't be forgotten. I'm very glad to have met you all! Thanks for your help!
 

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