New GCC afraid of hands? Please help!

asnyder

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Hi there, I've been through a roller coaster of a month trying to add a sweet GCC to our family! I originally got a 4 month old GCC ("Gypsy") from Petco and "she" was sweet as can be; a bit of biting issues, but after reading posts here I was able to curb that behavior quickly and she bonded with me and my husband within a couple days. She really enjoyed curling up in the hoods of our hoodies and playing in my hair. She would run to the front of the cage and step up without any issue to come out and play. Then, mysteriously, after two weeks with us and only a day after a thumbs up at her well check, she died :( We tossed all teflon-coated pots and pans, were very careful not to use perfumes or chemicals near her, always washed our hands before bringing her out, etc. so I was convinced her death was not environmental...

We were devastated. The pet store offered a 30-day "guarantee" that I NEVER thought we would have to entertain!! Needless to say, we did not get another bird from that store. I sanitized the cage, replaced the toys, and started looking for another bird. After our experience, I really wanted to find one from a local breeder, but of the few breeders in my area, no one had a GCC available, so I braved a different pet store chain.

The sales associate said she had actually adopted this GCC's brother (well, she thought it might be his brother because they're both yellow-sided, from the same breeder, with the same hatch date and similar leg band numbers). The fact that she hadn't experienced any unexpected health problems with another bird from the same breeder gave me confidence in my decision to take "Gypsy 2.0" home.

Now to my dilemma.

Gypsy2 (as we've been calling him/her) is 7 months old, vice the 4 months that Gypsy1 was. Is there a significant difference in how tame the bird is the younger you're able to get it out of the pet store? I ask, because this bird is nowhere near as sweet and trusting as Gypsy1 was. In fact, Gypsy2 seems to have a serious fear of hands!

After much research, and quite a few sessions of training, I'm finally able to get Gypsy2 to "step up" for a grape treat. "She" doesn't, however, come out onto the fold-down open door of the cage until I leave the room and come back. At that point, I first started by giving a nibble of the grape, then introducing my finger and coaxing the bird closer with each nibble until it rested one foot on my finger. Eventually it will step up. We then move to a couch and practice laddering, with more grape nibbles, etc.

Gypsy2 doesnt seem to like head schratches like Gyspy1 did...but I digress. The hands. I'm by no means able to stick my hand inside the cage without the bird 'freaking out' and climbing to the furthest reaches of the back of the cage. I did some more research, and for the last day or so, I've been opening the main cage door, waiting a second to make sure the bird will stay put, and then sticking my hand in the cage, just to be in the cage, not reaching for the bird. After a few times of doing this the bird has finally started to not run when my hand enters the cage, but if I move any closer to it, the freakout and runaway reaction occurs.

Am I doing the right things? Is there hope for Gyspy2? I know all birds are not created equal, and they will have different personalities, but can we expect that Gypsy2 will someday make it to the affection and trust level we had with Gypsy1? I dont mean to sound cruel (and I feel guily already) but I have been considering returning Gypsy2 to the store and waiting for hatchlings from a breeder that I know will be hand tame and at home with me at 8 weeks old :(
 

greencheekachick

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normal female gcc-Shyra,
normal male gcc-Morpheus,
cinnamon female gcc-Meeka,
(Meeka and Morpheus are a pair and are parents of Shyra)
-I'm sorry to hear of your loss :(.
-Just keep being patient and move at the pace Gypsy2 is most comfortable with. Don't rush anything. Sounds like you're doing a good job so far so keep it up ;)
Am I doing the right things? Is there hope for Gyspy2? I know all birds are not created equal, and they will have different personalities, but can we expect that Gypsy2 will someday make it to the affection and trust level we had with Gypsy1? I dont mean to sound cruel (and I feel guily already) but I have been considering returning Gypsy2 to the store and waiting for hatchlings from a breeder that I know will be hand tame and at home with me at 8 weeks old :(
-Yes there is hope but it will just take more time and patience ;) Don't give up!
-I have successfully hand tamed my Shyra parent raised baby. I still can't give her scritches yet but I've been slowly working with her about that. She used to freak out when I put my hands anywhere near her cage let alone inside too. Now she waits for me to get her out and will step up anywhere.
-I recorded Shyra's hand taming process if it would help you here: https://www.youtube.com/playlistlist=PLu2CPZFhJeWo96RAtcIMz8sLhzbDg4EQF
 

Mekaisto

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Just keep going slow :)
I'd suggest not sticking your hands into her enclosure just yet, that's her 'territory' and while she's still getting used to you (and sometimes even afterwards) she will not appreciate you coming in. A hand in the cage can also be a very scary thing for a new bird, they'll feel like they can't escape and be very frightened.

Try putting your hand at the entrance to the cage, and let her come to you. If she doesn't want to come down and get treats, don't force her.
 

Skittys_Daddy

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Lewiston, Maine
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Neotropical Pigeon - "Skittles" (born 3/29/10)
Cockatiel - "Peaches" (1995-2015) R.I.P.
Budgie - "Sammy"
(1989-2000) R.I.P.
Budgie - "Sandy"
(1987-1989) R.I.P.
First off, I'm so sorry to hear of your loss. But I think you made a wise decision not going back to Petco. I do NOT purchase birds from them for good reason. Everytime I visit Petco, the birds look sick. Puffed up, sleepy or feathers are out of place.

All the birds I've gotten in the past 10 years I got from the Kennel Shop (now called PetLife). I got Skittles (my sun conure) there back in 2011. The store not only gave me a health certificate - but contact information from the individual breeder. This provided invaluable service.

That being said, Skittles took to me right off, despite being a year old. But he had been handled and hand-fed and hand tamed.

Most likely your bird was either not handled regularly, not hand-tamed or in worse case scenario misheld or abused. Even hitting the cage can cause fear of hands - even fear of person.

What I suggest doing is keeping the bird in a quiet area of the house - so they can get a sense of safety (corners away from windows/doors are ideal). Always approach the cage slowly and provide reassuring words. Slowly open the cage and begin to put your hand in. IF the bird flutters or what not - slide your hand back - but do NOT stop as the bird will associate freaking out with you taking your hand away and continue to do so. Eventually the bird will get used to your hand and step up on it. The best way to do that is when you are able to get your finger close enough to the bird - 'gently' nudge the underbelly and say 'step up'.

I hope I've been able to help.
 
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asnyder

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Thank you all for the kind and encouraging words. As I type this Gypsy2 is climbing my hands and trying to help me type! It took a bit to get her out; again had to leave the room for a second and come back in order for her to go out on the open ledge, then used broccoli tonight and had her stepping up after a few minutes. She's been crawling all over me on the couch :) I appreciate the reassurance that with time and patience Gypsy2 will come around!
 

Skittys_Daddy

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Neotropical Pigeon - "Skittles" (born 3/29/10)
Cockatiel - "Peaches" (1995-2015) R.I.P.
Budgie - "Sammy"
(1989-2000) R.I.P.
Budgie - "Sandy"
(1987-1989) R.I.P.
That's precisely what it takes - time and patience. Congrats on Gypsy2 progress. I hope the sequel has a much more pleasant ending. ;)
 

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