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Old 04-11-2014, 11:01 AM
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I've been giving Crusso a lot of daily outside time. I carry his cage onto the deck and he perches on top of it all day enjoying the outdoors. Yesterday he suddenly took flight and it took me an hour to home in on his location as he squawked. I really want him to be able to spend lots of time outside, but now I feel I can't trust him. I don't want to have to clip his wings. My question is, how likely is he to find his way home?

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Old 04-11-2014, 12:54 PM
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Re: Missing in action

He might find his way home if a cat or a hawk does not get him, or a car, or another person.
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Old 04-11-2014, 01:10 PM
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Re: Missing in action

Have you tried to harness train him? Or you could just leave him in his cage while it is outside.
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Old 04-11-2014, 02:11 PM
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Re: Missing in action

I'm sorry, but I think it's crazy to let the bird outside without clipping her wings. Unclipped wings is one of the most common causes of our feathered friends deaths, even indoors. I would never risk to let them fly unclipped. Clipped wings would still let your bird fly, but just not too far or too high. And they actually develop better flight muscles with clipped wings. You could use a harness outside as well.
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Old 04-11-2014, 02:21 PM
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Re: Missing in action

Let's play nice with this thread, from the reaction the last post just caused in my home, I am expecting some heated words to begin... as my first moderator duty for a clip/not clip thread - play nice everyone!!!
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Old 04-11-2014, 02:24 PM
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Re: Missing in action

Now as my post not as moderator duty. Not sure why anyone would think clipping encourages better chest muscles. That is strictly one person's opinions, any new bird owners out there, please do not take that post as fact or based on science or any avian medical statistics.
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Old 04-11-2014, 02:30 PM
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Re: Missing in action

Chest muscles are developed by flying.... not gliding to the floor...

Most of the time a bird with clipped wings will have underdeveloped chest muscles.... Monkey my gcc had this problem. After she started flying she at least doubled her amount of chest muscles. Also, my gcc Monster is starting to fly again... you kind of feel bad for him because he is so under developed for flying that he has to go a million miles a minute with his wings to get anywhere. Monkey was the same way as him at first.

This isn't pro or con for clipping just on the muscle development.... I have both clipped and unclipped in the house.

For the main poster if you were specifically concerned about clipping or not there are a bunch of threads on this if you search.
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Old 04-11-2014, 02:56 PM
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Re: Missing in action

I doubt he would ever find his way home.

My baby means too much to me to ever risk watching helplessly as they fly away. I don't think it is fair to them to put them in danger, and having a bird unclipped and unharnessed outside, is putting them in danger.
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Old 04-11-2014, 03:11 PM
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Re: Missing in action

I recall having one budgie. He was an acrobat in the air! And that was the exact reason I purchased him! But I was stupid. I clipped his wings. I wasn't thinking straight, let alone right, and thought he might starve to death shortly after getting him.

Well, he lost muscle mass. He could no longer fly (he could still land without hurting himself! just couldn't fly) and when he finally got his flights back in, he still couldn't make it more than 4-6" off the ground, *AT BEST*.

I had to "teach" him how to fly again by tossing him onto a bed at least 2-3 times a day for around two weeks. After this time period, he was able to fly again, but he was no longer that graceful, acrobatic bird that I had purchased.




Gulfstream, Crusso may be able to find his way home *IF* he is familiar with the outside of your home and it's surroundings. However, like others, I do not recommend taking him outside unrestrained! Please, either keep him in a cage or harness train him!



If you refuse to do this, then I strongly urge you to take Chris Biro's Skype class! It's a minimum of $100 for up to 90 minutes of talking with him, or $300 for the class which is 5 sessions long. (I recommend the class, btw)

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If you don't do any of that, then you may very well lose Crusso!
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Old 04-11-2014, 03:27 PM
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Re: Missing in action

Hey, thanks everyone! I will keep him in his cage outside. I just wish I could build a huge aviary and let him fly all day!

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