Daba Doo Birdie Tent safe?

Pilaf · Sep 29, 2017

Many months ago I bought a Daba Doo birdie tent for Echo from our avian vet, before I even had Echo actually. I haven't given it to Echo yet, because I heard about happy huts, that they are not safe. But what about the one I have?
In this link you can see exactly the one I have. I think it would be nice at night, to sleep in for Echo. It's getting cold in our apartment, and the landlord is not very generous with the heat. We can't control our own heat unfortunately.

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LordTriggs · Sep 29, 2017

personally I'm against the huts, above everything I can see that's sewn together meaning that there are easy to pry up threads in that

On a different note What!? You don't get control of your own heat? I'd check rental laws where you are cause that seems pretty shady, especially if you pay for heating it's not up to your landlord if you find your place cold or warm

clark_conure · Sep 29, 2017

this is from 7 years ago, but might be relevant..

Thermostat wars: Landlord-tenant clashes inevitable over heating | Montreal Gazette

its quebec law

Pilaf · Sep 29, 2017

LordTriggs said:
personally I'm against the huts, above everything I can see that's sewn together meaning that there are easy to pry up threads in that

On a different note What!? You don't get control of your own heat? I'd check rental laws where you are cause that seems pretty shady, especially if you pay for heating it's not up to your landlord if you find your place cold or warm

Thank you. Our heat is included in the rent. That's why landlords are very careful with heat, especially in the winters here, because it adds up really fast. At some apartments here the heat is not included and then you have control over your own heat.

Pilaf · Sep 29, 2017

clark_conure said:
this is from 7 years ago, but might be relevant..

Thermostat wars: Landlord-tenant clashes inevitable over heating | Montreal Gazette

its quebec law

Thank you very much for this. I'm not sure how cold it is in our apartment now, especially in the mornings, but it's definitely not 21 degrees celsius. I just put on an extra layer now, it just started getting colder. I haven't been through a winter in this apartment yet (i just moved to this apartment building in April this year), but if it really starts to bother me (or Echo) I'll talk to my landlord. Echo doesn't seem to be bothered by it yet. But I thought at night it would be nice for him to have something warm to sleep in anyway.

clark_conure · Sep 29, 2017

What about a space heater...not a cheap one, a good one that automatically turns off if tipped, has good guards etc. I live in a split level and the thermostat is upstairs so in the winter I have to supplement my "man cave" with the gas fireplace.

Also, I don't think the bird tent is inherently bad, I got a tent for mine but he didn't take to it, so it's sitting on the floor in case he gets interested. I know they can eat stuff and destroy stuff. But if he destroyed it, I'd at least know the 12 bucks or whatever, got used. Is there a label? is it just natural fibers like cotton or is it all plastic based like rayon, polyester, nylon etc.

:gcc:

LordTriggs · Sep 29, 2017

Pilaf said:
LordTriggs said:

personally I'm against the huts, above everything I can see that's sewn together meaning that there are easy to pry up threads in that

On a different note What!? You don't get control of your own heat? I'd check rental laws where you are cause that seems pretty shady, especially if you pay for heating it's not up to your landlord if you find your place cold or warm

Click to expand...

Thank you. Our heat is included in the rent. That's why landlords are very careful with heat, especially in the winters here, because it adds up really fast. At some apartments here the heat is not included and then you have control over your own heat.

ah that makes more sense (just remember the landlord is no doubt asking you to pay more towards the heating than actually used) maybe have a chat with them, ask if you can put a little extra towards the heat over the winter months say $10 or so a month to knock the heating up a couple notches

Pilaf · Sep 29, 2017

clark_conure said:
What about a space heater...not a cheap one, a good one that automatically turns off if tipped, has good guards etc. I live in a split level and the thermostat is upstairs so in the winter I have to supplement my "man cave" with the gas fireplace.

Also, I don't think the bird tent is inherently bad, I got a tent for mine but he didn't take to it, so it's sitting on the floor in case he gets interested. I know they can eat stuff and destroy stuff. But if he destroyed it, I'd at least know the 12 bucks or whatever, got used. Is there a label? is it just natural fibers like cotton or is it all plastic based like rayon, polyester, nylon etc.

A space heater is what many people have here, but it's literally sucks electricity and bump up your electricity bill in a huge way. I just can't afford that.

About the tent -- This is what it says about it:
"Daba Doo tents are tough tents which can stand up to a lot of chewing and have a fuzzier inside than out traditional tents. These "Eco" tents are made from recycled pop bottles. They sport a hard bottom and an outer lining that is similar to the texture of a ski jacket. Droppings and other debris wipe easily. Also machine washable. Comes with two clips for hanging".

clark_conure · Sep 29, 2017

wait isn't this the same landlord that was exterminating without telling you and you had to put your bird up?

Find a new place and burn his appt to the ground if he doesn't meet you halfway....he's an animal hater.

Pilaf · Sep 29, 2017

LordTriggs said:
Pilaf said:

LordTriggs said:

personally I'm against the huts, above everything I can see that's sewn together meaning that there are easy to pry up threads in that

On a different note What!? You don't get control of your own heat? I'd check rental laws where you are cause that seems pretty shady, especially if you pay for heating it's not up to your landlord if you find your place cold or warm

Click to expand...

Thank you. Our heat is included in the rent. That's why landlords are very careful with heat, especially in the winters here, because it adds up really fast. At some apartments here the heat is not included and then you have control over your own heat.

Click to expand...

ah that makes more sense (just remember the landlord is no doubt asking you to pay more towards the heating than actually used) maybe have a chat with them, ask if you can put a little extra towards the heat over the winter months say $10 or so a month to knock the heating up a couple notches

I don't think that $10 a month would be enough. Our landlord is not very easy I must say. I'll see how it goes.

clark_conure · Sep 29, 2017

Remind him of the no warning extermination thing he caused

Kiwibird · Sep 29, 2017

We had a ancient POS furnace in an old apartment that "vented" out the roof meaning half or more our heat we were paying for was heating the outdoors. Our gas bill in the winter was outrageous for a 500 sq/ft space even keeping the bathroom and bedroom doors shut and unheated. We used a little electric radiator in our bedroom and it didn't do too much damage to the electric bill and kept it a bearable temperature at night. Oil radiators are far more efficient than regular space heaters and safe for parrots. Since your bird is active during the day, it might be nice to only use a little radiator at night so he can be cozy. Unless it is below 50, parrots do experience chilly temps in the jungle. It's drafts and sudden dramatic temperature shifts that are truly dangerous, not indoor winter temps that are a bit chilly but not freezing.

As for the hut, that is dependent on your bird. If he's not a known fabric chewer, observe his reaction closely and if he uses the hut as intended, it's probably fine. If he attacks and chews it, it is probably not safe for him as an individual. Kiwi has always had a hut and has never chewed it. It's one of those safe for some but not for all things.

LordTriggs · Sep 29, 2017

Kiwibird said:
We had a ancient POS furnace in an old apartment that "vented" out the roof meaning half or more our heat we were paying for was heating the outdoors. Our gas bill in the winter was outrageous for a 500 sq/ft space even keeping the bathroom and bedroom doors shut and unheated. We used a little electric radiator in our bedroom and it didn't do too much damage to the electric bill and kept it a bearable temperature at night. Oil radiators are far more efficient than regular space heaters and safe for parrots. Since your bird is active during the day, it might be nice to only use a little radiator at night so he can be cozy. Unless it is below 50, parrots do experience chilly temps in the jungle. It's drafts and sudden dramatic temperature shifts that are truly dangerous, not indoor winter temps that are a bit chilly but not freezing.

As for the hut, that is dependent on your bird. If he's not a known fabric chewer, observe his reaction closely and if he uses the hut as intended, it's probably fine. If he attacks and chews it, it is probably not safe for him as an individual. Kiwi has always had a hut and has never chewed it. It's one of those safe for some but not for all things.

very good point. Those oil radiators are pretty cheap (at least over here) and the electric bill is nothing. If you can aim for one with a timer on it and auto-shut off. Costs a little more but very good at heating a room and they can be hidden away easily

clark_conure · Sep 29, 2017

if you have a natural gas oven, it may be cheap to open the door and use the oven as a heater, you'd have to experiment. But I've done it before...usually with forethought, I choose to make oven pizza then leave the door open after.

Laylatoo · Sep 29, 2017

I just got two of these for my girls cages. They love them. Especially Layla. She cuddles up right next to it and it isn’t even cold yet here in northern Cali.

K&H Snuggle Up Bird Warmer| Seasonal Essentials for Birds from DrsFosterSmith.com

clark_conure · Sep 29, 2017

Laylatoo said:
I just got two of these for my girls cages. They love them. Especially Layla. She cuddles up right next to it and it isn’t even cold yet here in northern Cali.

K&H Snuggle Up Bird Warmer| Seasonal Essentials for Birds from DrsFosterSmith.com

THAT IS WHAT THIS SITE IS ABOUT!

Nice get!

Awesome post Laylatoo! I think I might get one now! :gcc:

Skidood · Sep 29, 2017

Coco has 2 furry tents hanging from the roof of her cage and she sleeps in them every night very happily. No chewing or pooping in them either. They keep the bird from falling over when falling asleep, she leans against the side.....

Pilaf · Sep 30, 2017

Thank you all for your responses and help.
I'll look into everything, all very interesting and helpful!

And I have the tent hanging in Echo's cage. He hasn't paid much attention to it yet. But I'll keep an eye on how it goes.

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