Is Lenny going through his hormonal stage?

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Lenny is about a 20 week old Green Cheek Conure. Yesterday he woke up really angry. He knows what no bite means, but all yesterday and today that wasn't working and he was really giving me some hard bites. I'm sorta thinking he could be going through his hormonal stage because he never acts like this. I just want to make sure my little baby is okay. Is there any good ways to help deal with this stage or just tough it out till this ends? :gcc:
 

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I've never experienced life with a GCC so others may have more appropriate advice. Since I just posted this on a sun conure thread with similar issues, I will post my advice below (if this is puberty). I think it's universal:

1) Avoid situations that trigger aggression. It varies. You can train him out of these gradually - but later. During his first hormonal period, just back off.

2) He does something aggressive that you don't like, say to him calmly, but firmly, 'No.' Leave him somewhere safe (perch, cage, etc depending on your living situation), and calmly leave the room. Don't let him follow (I close the door behind me). Come back after 15 mins. This is the number one thing that worked for me (thank you, Kalidasa, forever). Just don't do it for extended periods of course

3) When you get bit, react the way birds do when other birds bite them (i.e., pained shriek, don't go over the top but do commit to it, no laughing or bad acting allowed haha). This will show your bird that he caused you pain and would help him understand that it's not a cool thing to do to his flockmate. I also would also point to the part he bit then gently touch his beak, saying 'No bite.'

4) Bite pressure train. Look up techniques on how to properly do this. It's very important because it allows your bird to express himself without resorting to a bite. Sometimes they just need to tell the human to move their grubby fingers out of the way.

5) Exercise. Flight training is great for this. Let's them burn all that energy and hormonal frenzy. Also builds bond.

What I do not suggest is to clip the bird's wings as a means to subdue him. This is a fast way to frustrate an already hormonally frustrated bird and lead to a host of other behavioral issues. I also do not recommend giving them Lupron (?) shots which is supposed to reduce hormones. That sounds like a good way to ruin the kidneys. All these were recommended to me by none other than a vet! Also do your best not to raise your voice or show agitation - it will always backfire. Not saying you do, but thought I'd mention it anyway.

Observe his health (appetite, weight, stool). If this change in behavior is not hormones, it could also be from something health related.
 
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I've never experienced life with a GCC so others may have more appropriate advice. Since I just posted this on a sun conure thread with similar issues, I will post my advice below (if this is puberty). I think it's universal:

1) Avoid situations that trigger aggression. It varies. You can train him out of these gradually - but later. During his first hormonal period, just back off.

2) He does something aggressive that you don't like, say to him calmly, but firmly, 'No.' Leave him somewhere safe (perch, cage, etc depending on your living situation), and calmly leave the room. Don't let him follow (I close the door behind me). Come back after 15 mins. This is the number one thing that worked for me (thank you, Kalidasa, forever). Just don't do it for extended periods of course

3) When you get bit, react the way birds do when other birds bite them (i.e., pained shriek, don't go over the top but do commit to it, no laughing or bad acting allowed haha). This will show your bird that he caused you pain and would help him understand that it's not a cool thing to do to his flockmate. I also would also point to the part he bit then gently touch his beak, saying 'No bite.'

4) Bite pressure train. Look up techniques on how to properly do this. It's very important because it allows your bird to express himself without resorting to a bite. Sometimes they just need to tell the human to move their grubby fingers out of the way.

5) Exercise. Flight training is great for this. Let's them burn all that energy and hormonal frenzy. Also builds bond.

What I do not suggest is to clip the bird's wings as a means to subdue him. This is a fast way to frustrate an already hormonally frustrated bird and lead to a host of other behavioral issues. I also do not recommend giving them Lupron (?) shots which is supposed to reduce hormones. That sounds like a good way to ruin the kidneys. All these were recommended to me by none other than a vet! Also do your best not to raise your voice or show agitation - it will always backfire. Not saying you do, but thought I'd mention it anyway.

Observe his health (appetite, weight, stool). If this change in behavior is not hormones, it could also be from something health related.

Thank you so much! Number 3 is working very well for us and it has started to calm him down.
 

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Has he been to a CAV for a wellness exam since you brought him home?

Any time a parrot, especially such a young baby, suddenly becomes aggressive or changes their behavior like a light-switch being flipped, you must immediately consider that it may very well be a medical issue, such as an infection/illness. If you notice any other signs of illness, such as him being suddenly more lethargic, sleeping more, not eating or drinking normally, fluffing-up a lot, being on the bottom of the cage, etc., then there is definitely something wrong and he needs to see a Certified Avian Vet ASAP...

At only 20 weeks old this is not hormonal behavior, he is far too young for that. So something else is going on that is causing his sudden change in behavior....
 
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Has he been to a CAV for a wellness exam since you brought him home?

Any time a parrot, especially such a young baby, suddenly becomes aggressive or changes their behavior like a light-switch being flipped, you must immediately consider that it may very well be a medical issue, such as an infection/illness. If you notice any other signs of illness, such as him being suddenly more lethargic, sleeping more, not eating or drinking normally, fluffing-up a lot, being on the bottom of the cage, etc., then there is definitely something wrong and he needs to see a Certified Avian Vet ASAP...

At only 20 weeks old this is not hormonal behavior, he is far too young for that. So something else is going on that is causing his sudden change in behavior....

Yeah, he did go to a CAV and they said he was perfectly healthy. He has no other signs of illness. I don't know what's going on... :(
 
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He just seems a little different. He doesn't want to be held as much, and he chases your hand and bites it. He didn't do this till 2 days ago. Nothing changed in his routine, diet, etc.
 
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I'm giving him his space also, whenever he is showing that he wants to be left alone I leave him alone. I don't know what is happening. :(
 
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This is really odd. Now he is as cuddly as he was 2 days ago, doesn't bite me, and is happy as ever. I'm really confused...
 

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Great to hear! Hope all is well. Keep us posted and shares pics when you can :)
 

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Is he perhaps molting right now? He's at the age where he's going to start molting, or already has, and if he's covered in pin-feathers then that would explain the grumpiness and the not wanting to be held, as new pin-feathers are extremely painful to touch, and to them they are extremely itchy all the time, and they can't preen the sheaths off of them until they are dry enough, or else they hurt themselves...
 
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After looking around at his feathers I’ve noticed lots of pin feathers on his head and neck. Anything that I can do to help him out during this time?
 

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Offering frequent baths / showers / misting will help relieve the discomfort. See which method he prefers. Let him dry under the sun, this will also help.

Once the pin feathers are long, dry and straw-like, you can pinch the the ends gently. They should crumble. If the pin feathers don't crumble and they are short and plump, they are not ready to be pinched and should be left alone.

Offer additional parrot safe foods that are rich in protein and calcium. Don't forget the staple fresh fruits and vegetables too.
 

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