Bonding with so in to buy golden conure. Not sure if good or bad help

Goldenconure1 · Aug 23, 2018

I have visited him 3 times now, and he is 12 weeks old still being hand fed but out of the incubator.

I am wondering if a baby can reject someone. I ask because when I take him out he sort mum is into me but then sort of runs away and squaks a ton. He also avoids looking me in the eye. When my parents handled him he stayed put and just stared at them in the face and quieted down and interacted with them in a much calmer fashion.

Is this possibly bad for me, as he will be living with only me. And I do not want to get a bird that seems already uncomfortable with me. (If anything I can always switch my down payment to another, younger golden conure. The one I have money down on now is about 12 and a half weeks and I do have a suspicion he palpably doesn't really like me, especially because he acts very very differently with my parents and friends that have handled him. But for me he seems to avoid as much contact as possible)

Laurasea · Aug 23, 2018

If you are choosen by a parrot it is a wonderful thing. When I met my baby he jumped right on my arm and was happy to go into the travel cage. He never looked back at his hatchmates or hand rearing mom. Settled into my home like he had always been with me. This is such a personal decision, I would follow your gut. Waiting is hard but maybe you should pick and be picked by a different baby?

noodles123 · Aug 23, 2018

Much like human babies, parents/parent figures are almost always accepted. This issue comes when, like teens and adults, the bird sometimes pulls away and elects a new set of preferences (which may or may not include you) around puberty (and throughout its adult life in some cases).
Don't get a bird unless you could handle it "hating" you for long stretches (or at least, acting like it hates you). Biting, ignoring, showering your indifferent spouse/ex etc with affection. It doesn't always happen, but it happens often enough that you shouldn't get a bird if this is a big concern (no one wants to experience this- but ask yourself truly if you could handle feeling hopeless/unappreciated in the relationship...Even if temporary, it can seem very permanent).
That sounds terrible, but most "parronts"will attest to feelings of sadness/rejection when their bird becomes moody or picks someone new (permanently, temporarily or due to a "spat"). The preference switch can happen for no apparent reason, but it can seem very cold. It won't likely be forever (if it happens) but it could be, and just like a parent puts up with their angry teens (or adult children), I expect that parrot owners will do the same.

Goldenconure1 · Aug 23, 2018

Laurasea said:
If you are choosen by a parrot it is a wonderful thing. When I met my baby he jumped right on my arm and was happy to go into the travel cage. He never looked back at his hatchmates or hand rearing mom. Settled into my home like he had always been with me. This is such a personal decision, I would follow your gut. Waiting is hard but maybe you should pick and be picked by a different baby?

I suppose I should keep a close eye. Although I have talked to some breeders and they told me that overthinking the interaction one has with a baby is probably not the best thing, and that I may be over thinking it. Hmm

noodles123 · Aug 23, 2018

There is no guarantee--your best bet is unwavering commitment and a good foundation in applied behavior analysis (ABA) or something comparable. If you know a lot about birds and have grown up owning them (bigger birds...) then that may be enough, but if not, love and interest is not enough alone. No matter what, just know that it will be a bumpy road. Having a parrot is more like having a child than a pet, no matter how much you plan..I know children/toddlers well, but having a parrot and taking good care of it is often harder (when done properly).
You will be bitten...you will need to change your lifestyle considerably....you will deal with behaviors and you will need to know how to handle them, as opposed to becoming emotional and re-homing an very sensitive (and already vulnerable) "pet".

PS: My bird did not like me and now she loves me, but I have been bitten and I spent months unable to get near her...It was stressful.

Birds (and people) can and do change.

Again....the difficulty here is that you are dealing with a VERY smart creature who is being crammed into an unnatural setting and it is your responsibility to provide the patience, understanding and enrichment required to make it work (without the promise of anything definite in return).

Laurasea · Aug 23, 2018

Do I think you and this almost your baby can be happy, yes. But I also think you should not second guess yourself. You have these feelings for a reason, you posted about it for a reason. Breeders want to sell birds, and money now is always better than money later. It's what you think that's most important.

Goldenconure1 · Aug 24, 2018

Hey guys. So potentially good news just wanna know what to make of this.

Today I spent 2 and a half hours with the golden. He jumped out to me as he usually does, then was kinda avoidant but would let me pet him mostly.

I noticed something though. At one point he was getting a bit more tame, then he saw and heard the bird shop owner come in, the guy who hand feeds all the birds. At that point he was super avoidant and even flew off me several times to get over towards the feeding guy. In that time even after the feeder left, for like 20 minutes the golden was difficult and moving his head out of the way of my hand, making me think his mind was simply on food.

Well after a while i felt this bonding thing isn't working even when the feeder is out of the room.

Well. To my surprise, the golden started nestling his neck against mine and got really calm. (Unsure if he was just tired from losing his mind around the feeder), but he was continually not letting me pu him back and was sort of determined to get to comfortable areas of my clothes or body to have me pet him. He was almost falling asleep to me doing that so perhaps he is at least partly coming around? Felt like he was finally partly accepting me. I am feeling a bit more happy with this. I will continue to evaluate

Laurasea · Aug 24, 2018

Awww....you are doing a lot, and spending so much time getting to know the little guy,!! You are going to make a great parront soon!! Having his feeder (mum) around can definitely change his behavior... Can't wait to hear the rest of your story.

EllenD · Aug 25, 2018

I just read all through this post, and honestly I would normally tell you to go with your gut-feeling...However, as you just realized and pointed out, this baby bird is not being "avoidant" of you for any reason other than he's still an extremely young baby that is still being hand-fed by a particular person, and is probably scared to death to be honest with you. As a long-time breeder and hand-raiser, very young, baby birds who are still not weaned and haven't even fledged yet are extremely anxious a lot of the time. Usually as soon as they start eating large amounts of solid food, start walking around quite a bit (able to balance) and are not spending all of their time huddling/snuggled against their siblings, and definitely once they start to fledge, they open right up and start loving attention from anyone who will give it. It sounds like this baby is still quite young, based on the number of feedings he's still on per day.

Honestly, this pet store/breeder shouldn't be allowing all these people to be handling these very young babies, I'm kind of surprised that they're doing this. It's one thing to put their brooder in the window so that people can see them and potentially put a deposit down on them, but actually allowing anyone who walks into the pet store to sit down and handle unweaned, young babies like this is extremely risky for a number of reasons, the main one being the constant risk of and exposure to bacteria, fungi, parasites, etc. Most people who come into pet shops actually have different animals at home, everything from dogs and cats to birds to rodents to reptiles to primates, etc. And it's not just the viruses that can be spread from bird to bird that is a risk, that's actually the smallest risk here; it's the many different bacteria, fungi, and parasites that they are exposing these extremely young babies with underdeveloped immune systems that is just not a good practice at all...So my point here is that I would absolutely demand that this pet shop take the baby to their Avian Specialist Vet and that he come home to you with a certificate of health from the Avian Vet, and that he also have some type of health-guarantee from the pet shop. And I'm talking like at least a 30-day health guarantee, not a few days or a week, because birds hide their illnesses so well that it takes much longer than a few days or a week for outward signs of a current infection or illness to show-up.

Also, before you bring this baby or any baby home, you need to locate your closes Certified Avian Vet or Avian Specialist Vet (no "Exotics" Vets!), and set-up an appointment for a full "Wellness Exam" for whatever baby you bring home during the very first few days that you have him, and make sure that the vet does a Fecal Culture as a part of the Wellness-Exam so that you can confirm and treat or rule-out any bacterial or fungal infections that the baby may come home with.

***Also, you said something that kind of alarmed me in your initial post when you were discussing the age of this baby. You said that the pet shop owner told you that "They take away one feeding per day per week until the babies are only eating solid food"...Now there's a lot that goes into this that I'm not going to go into here because it would take forever, but basically there are 2 different ways to wean a baby bird off of the formula and onto solid food...There's "Abundance Weaning", which is where the breeder continues to offer the same number of feedings and the same amount of formula in each feeding until THE BABY REFUSES a feeding or the amount in each feeding, and the timing of the weaning is ALL UP TO THE BABY, and then there is "Force Weaning", where the bird has no say in how many feedings they get or how much formula is in each feeding, and the breeder makes these decisions, usually on a set-schedule...

So what this breeder at this pet shop told you is that he basically "Force-Weans" his babies by reducing their number of formula feedings and the amount of formula in each feeding on a weekly schedule...This is extremely bad, and can result in a baby bird with severe neurological, behavioral, psychological, health, and bonding issues. What you have to understand is that baby birds are very much like human babies in the way that they start eating solid foods. Some baby birds will wean themselves very easily and quickly (shorter than average weaning time), other take a little longer (average weaning time), and then some babies take a much longer time than the average for their species, or even much longer than the rest of the siblings in the same clutch (longer than average weaning time). The most important thing that a bird breeder who hand-raises needs to do is to "allow the babies to wean themselves and control this all on their own". Breeders simply offer the same number of feedings and the same amount of formula in each feeding until THE BABIES TELL US OTHERWISE. So if the average weaning age of a Golden Conure is between 10-12 weeks old, and we have one baby in a clutch that takes 15 weeks to fully Abundance-Wean, then that's what it takes. Breeders should NEVER, EVER, EVER just "take away a formula feeding every few days or every week" on a set schedule, nor should they ever "cut the amount of formula in each feeding by a certain amount every week or every certain number of days"...This can really result in heartache and tragedy for both the bird and the people who bring them home...We just had a long-time, senior member who is extremely experienced have to surrender her Nanday Conure, that she got as a hand-raised baby after 2 years of trying everything she could to help him with his severe neurological and behavioral issues, to a specialize bird sanctuary. And all of this bird's issues were completely due to his breeder Force-Weaning him. He was "forced to wean" onto solid food long before his body and his brain were ready to do so, and this caused him severe developmental issues.

I'm not trying to be "that guy" here, nor am I trying to ruin the experience of you bringing home your first baby parrot...Actually, I'm trying to do just the opposite, I'm trying to save you from having your first baby parrot experience turn into a complete and total nightmare...I can only give you my personal and professional opinion as to what I would do myself, and what I would tell any friend or family member who I love and who presented this exact situation to me and asked me what I would do...And being a long-time breeder and hand-raiser/hand-feeder of parrots (20+ years), I honestly would not take home a baby from this pet shop at all. And not at all for the original reason that was causing you hesitation. I wouldn't buy ANY baby bird from this pet shop for two different reasons, #1 definitely being that it very much sounds like this pet store owner/breeder is "Force Weaning" his baby birds instead of allowing his babies to "Abundance Wean", which is probably the worst thing a breeder of any animal can do to a baby, and then #2, because this pet shop owner/breeder allows anyone and everyone who walks in off the street and into his store to actually handle/hold/pet unweaned, baby birds who are only weeks old! There is no telling how many dozens and dozens if not hundreds of people have handled the baby birds in this store, and these are unweaned, unfledged baby birds who are as young as 5-6 weeks old! They have immune systems that are not at all fully-developed, and honestly this combined with the "Force-Weaning" situation are very good indications that this person has basically "learned" to breed and hand-raise/hand-feed birds out of force, meaning he learned as he went along because he had a pet shop and he wanted to start selling hand-raised, baby birds. The fact is that it doesn't sound much like he knows what he's doing.

I would at the very least ask him the question "What type of weaning do you practice with your baby birds?", and if he has no idea what you're talking about, and he has no idea what the difference between Force-Weaning and Abundance-Weaning is, then there's your answer. But just the fact that he told you that "He takes a formula feeding away" on a schedule is a horrible sign...Again, I hate to be "that person", but I'd rather try to save you the heartache of bringing home either a sick bird that dies soon after you bring him home from some type of infection that he was infected with by one of the hundreds of people who were allowed to handle him from the time he was like 4-5 weeks old, or watching your baby bird regressing the older he gets, not being able to properly feed himself, having severe anxiety attacks, constant "baby-like" behavior, etc. that gets progressively worse the older he gets, all due to him being Force-Weaned...I'd rather try to do that than to just keep my mouth shut and tell you that "this pet shop and breeder sound wonderful, congrats, enjoy, everything is great" so as to not rock the boat...I hope that makes sense to you...Like I said, I'd politely tell this breeder/pet shop owner that you've changed your mind about getting a bird, ask for your deposit back, and then get online and find the closest private breeder that is not selling their birds from a pet shop, which is usually a red-flag...not always, but a lot of the time...

Goldenconure1 · Aug 25, 2018

Thanks so much for your concern I will being this all up to him. Also perhaps I was unclear before but the one I am currently handling is a bit over 12 weeks so he can balance quite well and even start flight a bit it is just he is still unearned and can't eat on his own. I guess it is abnormal that he cannot still eat on his own yet I suppose at his own pace he will do it.

wrench13 · Aug 25, 2018

Goldenconure1 said:
Laurasea said:

If you are choosen by a parrot it is a wonderful thing. When I met my baby he jumped right on my arm and was happy to go into the travel cage. He never looked back at his hatchmates or hand rearing mom. Settled into my home like he had always been with me. This is such a personal decision, I would follow your gut. Waiting is hard but maybe you should pick and be picked by a different baby?

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I suppose I should keep a close eye. Although I have talked to some breeders and they told me that overthinking the interaction one has with a baby is probably not the best thing, and that I may be over thinking it. Hmm

Friend you have made a lot of posts and obviously have put a lot of thought and investifation in this but I feel you are over thinking this bonding part way too much. Once in your home and comfortale in their new home most parrots will bond with 1 person and be friendly with the rest of the family IF THEY ARE SOCIALIZED properly. You may be or not the "person" ( usually the one who gives them the most treats) however msot willcome around. The key is to make sure to spend a lot of 1 on 1 with your new baby.

Goldenconure1 · Aug 25, 2018

EllenD said:
I just read all through this post, and honestly I would normally tell you to go with your gut-feeling...However, as you just realized and pointed out, this baby bird is not being "avoidant" of you for any reason other than he's still an extremely young baby that is still being hand-fed by a particular person, and is probably scared to death to be honest with you. As a long-time breeder and hand-raiser, very young, baby birds who are still not weaned and haven't even fledged yet are extremely anxious a lot of the time. Usually as soon as they start eating large amounts of solid food, start walking around quite a bit (able to balance) and are not spending all of their time huddling/snuggled against their siblings, and definitely once they start to fledge, they open right up and start loving attention from anyone who will give it. It sounds like this baby is still quite young, based on the number of feedings he's still on per day.

Honestly, this pet store/breeder shouldn't be allowing all these people to be handling these very young babies, I'm kind of surprised that they're doing this. It's one thing to put their brooder in the window so that people can see them and potentially put a deposit down on them, but actually allowing anyone who walks into the pet store to sit down and handle unweaned, young babies like this is extremely risky for a number of reasons, the main one being the constant risk of and exposure to bacteria, fungi, parasites, etc. Most people who come into pet shops actually have different animals at home, everything from dogs and cats to birds to rodents to reptiles to primates, etc. And it's not just the viruses that can be spread from bird to bird that is a risk, that's actually the smallest risk here; it's the many different bacteria, fungi, and parasites that they are exposing these extremely young babies with underdeveloped immune systems that is just not a good practice at all...So my point here is that I would absolutely demand that this pet shop take the baby to their Avian Specialist Vet and that he come home to you with a certificate of health from the Avian Vet, and that he also have some type of health-guarantee from the pet shop. And I'm talking like at least a 30-day health guarantee, not a few days or a week, because birds hide their illnesses so well that it takes much longer than a few days or a week for outward signs of a current infection or illness to show-up.

Also, before you bring this baby or any baby home, you need to locate your closes Certified Avian Vet or Avian Specialist Vet (no "Exotics" Vets!), and set-up an appointment for a full "Wellness Exam" for whatever baby you bring home during the very first few days that you have him, and make sure that the vet does a Fecal Culture as a part of the Wellness-Exam so that you can confirm and treat or rule-out any bacterial or fungal infections that the baby may come home with.

***Also, you said something that kind of alarmed me in your initial post when you were discussing the age of this baby. You said that the pet shop owner told you that "They take away one feeding per day per week until the babies are only eating solid food"...Now there's a lot that goes into this that I'm not going to go into here because it would take forever, but basically there are 2 different ways to wean a baby bird off of the formula and onto solid food...There's "Abundance Weaning", which is where the breeder continues to offer the same number of feedings and the same amount of formula in each feeding until THE BABY REFUSES a feeding or the amount in each feeding, and the timing of the weaning is ALL UP TO THE BABY, and then there is "Force Weaning", where the bird has no say in how many feedings they get or how much formula is in each feeding, and the breeder makes these decisions, usually on a set-schedule...

So what this breeder at this pet shop told you is that he basically "Force-Weans" his babies by reducing their number of formula feedings and the amount of formula in each feeding on a weekly schedule...This is extremely bad, and can result in a baby bird with severe neurological, behavioral, psychological, health, and bonding issues. What you have to understand is that baby birds are very much like human babies in the way that they start eating solid foods. Some baby birds will wean themselves very easily and quickly (shorter than average weaning time), other take a little longer (average weaning time), and then some babies take a much longer time than the average for their species, or even much longer than the rest of the siblings in the same clutch (longer than average weaning time). The most important thing that a bird breeder who hand-raises needs to do is to "allow the babies to wean themselves and control this all on their own". Breeders simply offer the same number of feedings and the same amount of formula in each feeding until THE BABIES TELL US OTHERWISE. So if the average weaning age of a Golden Conure is between 10-12 weeks old, and we have one baby in a clutch that takes 15 weeks to fully Abundance-Wean, then that's what it takes. Breeders should NEVER, EVER, EVER just "take away a formula feeding every few days or every week" on a set schedule, nor should they ever "cut the amount of formula in each feeding by a certain amount every week or every certain number of days"...This can really result in heartache and tragedy for both the bird and the people who bring them home...We just had a long-time, senior member who is extremely experienced have to surrender her Nanday Conure, that she got as a hand-raised baby after 2 years of trying everything she could to help him with his severe neurological and behavioral issues, to a specialize bird sanctuary. And all of this bird's issues were completely due to his breeder Force-Weaning him. He was "forced to wean" onto solid food long before his body and his brain were ready to do so, and this caused him severe developmental issues.

I'm not trying to be "that guy" here, nor am I trying to ruin the experience of you bringing home your first baby parrot...Actually, I'm trying to do just the opposite, I'm trying to save you from having your first baby parrot experience turn into a complete and total nightmare...I can only give you my personal and professional opinion as to what I would do myself, and what I would tell any friend or family member who I love and who presented this exact situation to me and asked me what I would do...And being a long-time breeder and hand-raiser/hand-feeder of parrots (20+ years), I honestly would not take home a baby from this pet shop at all. And not at all for the original reason that was causing you hesitation. I wouldn't buy ANY baby bird from this pet shop for two different reasons, #1 definitely being that it very much sounds like this pet store owner/breeder is "Force Weaning" his baby birds instead of allowing his babies to "Abundance Wean", which is probably the worst thing a breeder of any animal can do to a baby, and then #2, because this pet shop owner/breeder allows anyone and everyone who walks in off the street and into his store to actually handle/hold/pet unweaned, baby birds who are only weeks old! There is no telling how many dozens and dozens if not hundreds of people have handled the baby birds in this store, and these are unweaned, unfledged baby birds who are as young as 5-6 weeks old! They have immune systems that are not at all fully-developed, and honestly this combined with the "Force-Weaning" situation are very good indications that this person has basically "learned" to breed and hand-raise/hand-feed birds out of force, meaning he learned as he went along because he had a pet shop and he wanted to start selling hand-raised, baby birds. The fact is that it doesn't sound much like he knows what he's doing.

I would at the very least ask him the question "What type of weaning do you practice with your baby birds?", and if he has no idea what you're talking about, and he has no idea what the difference between Force-Weaning and Abundance-Weaning is, then there's your answer. But just the fact that he told you that "He takes a formula feeding away" on a schedule is a horrible sign...Again, I hate to be "that person", but I'd rather try to save you the heartache of bringing home either a sick bird that dies soon after you bring him home from some type of infection that he was infected with by one of the hundreds of people who were allowed to handle him from the time he was like 4-5 weeks old, or watching your baby bird regressing the older he gets, not being able to properly feed himself, having severe anxiety attacks, constant "baby-like" behavior, etc. that gets progressively worse the older he gets, all due to him being Force-Weaned...I'd rather try to do that than to just keep my mouth shut and tell you that "this pet shop and breeder sound wonderful, congrats, enjoy, everything is great" so as to not rock the boat...I hope that makes sense to you...Like I said, I'd politely tell this breeder/pet shop owner that you've changed your mind about getting a bird, ask for your deposit back, and then get online and find the closest private breeder that is not selling their birds from a pet shop, which is usually a red-flag...not always, but a lot of the time...

I may have made a mistake in my wording before. He says he feeds at 11 am and 7 pm and also said we need to pretty much wait until he is ready to eat on his own so I don't think that is force weaning is it? Maybe I am wrong? But he says I we do have to wait and gave me a general estimate if when he should be ready but also outline it could take longer than a month and a half from now depending on how fast he starts eating on his own. That seems more like abundance weaning than force though right?

Goldenconure1 · Aug 26, 2018

Here are two videos of him

He is 13 weeks now. Does he seem.healthy to you guys

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=SUZCg3Ba5Is

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=08A9NaaRU40

For reference he kinda squaks like that most of the time he is handled but at times quiets down and seems to really enjoy being pet.

My main concern is the fact his feathers are always fluffed put like that which I heard could be a sign of infection. What do you guys think?

noodles123 · Aug 26, 2018

He's adorable. To me, he looks fine, but birds are masters at hiding illness. It is almost impossible to tell just looking at a bird unless they are really sick already. In general in adult birds, you will want to look at his poop (urine, urates and fecal matter, including color, consistency and any undigested bits), look at his vent (butt-hole haha)---it should be free of poop, look at his nares (nostrils)--they shouldn't have any discharge or crusting (birds do have a little flap inside of their noses, and that is normal), look at his feet---does he have any protrusions, sores, discoloration, or irregularities, look at his feather quality---any overpreened areas, bald patches, discolorations, random spots of orange or black along the feather shaft, stress marks etc, look at his eyes --they should be bright, discharge free and no redness around them, look at his beak and bite (google your bird and compare his beak to others---my bird's beak flakes but she is a cockatoo so that is normal, I don't know what your bird's beak should look like, but you can figure it out online---when he bites down, his top and bottom should line up and when he breathes, his mouth should be shut (at least in adults) ---and keep an eye on behavior and food consumption over time.
EDIT- In a perched adult bird, look out for a rhythmic tail-bobbing, as this can be indicative of respiratory problems.
Breathing should be inaudible

Unless playing or exploring, adult birds should not be hanging out on the bottom of their cage without purpose. If they are, it is a bad sign (emergency).

noodles123 · Aug 26, 2018

PS- a baby bird's behavior is no judge of how that bird will be as an adult. You could adopt an angel who is actually the devil in disguise...if this is a huge concern, I would caution you against getting a bird. No matter how much he likes you now, he will bite you and his personality WILL change----esp at sexual maturity. All birds are super sweet as babies.

LoriS53 · Aug 28, 2018

Your baby is truly adorable! Please don't be discouraged. I have a little pineapple conure who is 5 months old. Some days he loves me some days he loves my husband but when he is tired and wants to go to bed it is me he wants. Just love your little guy the rest will come. I am attaching a picture of Petrie in his favorite bedtime place.

LoriS53 · Aug 28, 2018

I meant to agree with the post above. Personalities do change. We have one pineapple conure, we are her 3rd owner. Unfortunately the 1st owner passed away and the 2nd owner didn't click with her personality. She is very hostile if you disturb her when she is ratting, unfortunately signs she has more than likely been starved at one point. She also is very nervous around a lot of commotion. She will bite repeatedly if she is in the room when say the tv has gunfire or fighting etc going on. Somethings just happen in a bird's life to shape their personalities no matter how hard we try. &#55357;&#56842;

Goldenconure1 · Aug 31, 2018

Hey guys. Bonding is going well. He is still on 2 handfeedings per day as well as has pellets and seeds in his cage.

However, any time I handle him, he just squaks a ton, as always, bobs his head, and wants to be pet, and when he is pet he still incessantly squaks. He is great. But he a long with all of this, he always is wing flicking, the entire time, even if he has just been fed he continues all these behaviors at the same rate. I know these are all baby signs of begging for food. And he never touches solid food meaning he doesn't know how yet.... Should o request my breeder to add an extra hand feeding (of syringe formula)?

Goldenconure1 · Aug 31, 2018

Also I forgot to add the breeder does Not weigh him at all, let alone every day..... How bad is This? Should I bring in my own scale then each day? Lastly, as what I mentioned before my golden is constantly fluffed up, even when enjoying his head scratches. His whole body is fluffed up too, the whole time. Not just his neck and head. Luckily he is not tail bobbing. But I wonder if he is either hungry/in need of an extra hand feeding or is genuinely sick

Sunnyclover · Aug 31, 2018

To me the bird looks and acts exactly like a bird who is still being hand fed and looks normal. That birdie reminds me so my of my Nanday Conure when he was a little tike, all fluffy and doing that baby "feed me" cry. Don't worry they don't act like that and make that noise forever!

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