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SilverHybrid 01-04-2019 01:07 PM

Horrible, Sudden Aggression in Green Cheek Conure
 
Hello, I'm Silver and I, unfortunately, have a major problem with my pineapple green cheek conure, Navi.
I got her in June 23rd, 2018 (two days before my birthday, fun fact) and she was the sweetest thing ever. Note : she was 11 weeks old when I got her.
I gave her a cage, gave her a friend, Sky the fancy parakeet, and she was just the best bird you could ask for... Until we reached around late August to early September...
It was a normal day, I was taking her out in the afternoon to spend time with my spoiled child. I was saying, "Good afternoon Navi!" as I usually do. I carefully stuck my hand in the cage, trying not to spook her, but she suddenly bit me; really, really hard.
In shock, I pulled my hand back since she's never bitten me before. Sure, she would give me nips but that's when she got annoyed by something I was doing and I would stop immediately.
I tried again and got the same result : a painful bite. I simply just called it a day and tried again tomorrow, but got the exact same thing. I called the breeder I got her from and asked what I should do. She said to ignore the biting and gently push her beak back when she tried biting. If it got worse, roll your hand in to have her try and bite the top of your hand, but there was nothing to latch onto to bite, so it should work, right?
I've tried both for the past 2 months and no progress has been made whatsoever. If anything, her biting has gotten worse to where I would bleed. She'll even run up to you and bite anything that's closest to her.
Recently, however, I've gotten her a new, bigger cage, thinking that maybe why she was aggressive because her old cage was just slightly smaller than what a green cheek would need.
After putting her in the new cage, she's gotten better... at least for 3-4 days...
Her biting is horrible and I can't stand it. I've tried what the breeder has told me and nothing's worked. Not only that, she's aggressive to my mother and my brother, who've been loving her ever since I got her. Any ideas?
For extra info, by now she is a little bit below 9 months.

chris-md 01-04-2019 01:26 PM

Re: Horrible, Sudden Aggression in Green Cheek Conure
 
Welcome to the forums!

Also, year and a half? Welcome to puberty! Your bird has entered adolescence. This is a phase and will pass, rest assured. Puberty typically lasts a few months. Protracted cases may last up to a year.

Aggression and general bipolar behavior (aggressive one second, super sweetheart the next, wake up next morning to an evil heathen) are typical of puberty. THIS WILL PASS. You must have patience, and do your best to ignore the naughty behavior.

It is SO key to continue engaging the bird out of cage and keep up the socialization. Do not keep your bird locked up as a result of the aggression. This will be key to positive resolution of this phase and have a positive outcome:

YOU WILL GET YOUR SWEET BIRD BACK, I promise. If you do as above, keep engaging, you’ll get the well behaved bird back in a few months time.

PATIENCE IS A MUST. Not optional here. You’ll get through it together and your bond with the bird will be stronger than ever as a result.

SilverHybrid 01-04-2019 01:30 PM

Re: Horrible, Sudden Aggression in Green Cheek Conure
 
Thank you for your reply but, however, she is not a year in a half. That was a typo on my part, I'm sorry. At the moment, she is 9 months old. Though, now I will know about her puberty in the future!

chris-md 01-04-2019 01:38 PM

Re: Horrible, Sudden Aggression in Green Cheek Conure
 
I still wouldn’t rule out an early bloomer, as it were. This could likely be a bit of prepubertal hormones kicking in, since 1 year is generally the accepted baseline for when puberty kicks in.

Could also be a bit of boundary testing. They definitely do this as well. Just keep enforcing rules, and this too shalll eventually end.

Moody behavior...testing boundaries...sounds a bit like a human child, right? It’s cause it is. They have the intelligence of 2-3 year old and often behave like it. Let that be a guide for you.

SilverHybrid 01-04-2019 02:07 PM

Re: Horrible, Sudden Aggression in Green Cheek Conure
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by chris-md (Post 789585)
I still wouldnít rule out an early bloomer, as it were. This could likely be a bit of prepubertal hormones kicking in, since 1 year is generally the accepted baseline for when puberty kicks in.

Could also be a bit of boundary testing. They definitely do this as well. Just keep enforcing rules, and this too shalll eventually end.

Moody behavior...testing boundaries...sounds a bit like a human child, right? Itís cause it is. They have the intelligence of 2-3 year old and often behave like it. Let that be a guide for you.

I've kept note of that. I've done a lot of research on green cheek conures before I got her. Unfortunately, nothing told me about her bratty behavior. Though, I've been patient, I've just gotten tired of it. It's been happening for 4 months and it's started when she was about 5 months old, I believe.

chris-md 01-04-2019 02:21 PM

Re: Horrible, Sudden Aggression in Green Cheek Conure
 
Ok definitetly not puberty then.

Tell us about how you are caring for him. Daily routine, how often is the bird out of cage, what’s the diet like. Give us all the details you can.

Also, have you ever taken the bird in to a certified avian vet for a full check up, including full bloodwork?

SilverHybrid 01-04-2019 02:34 PM

Re: Horrible, Sudden Aggression in Green Cheek Conure
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by chris-md (Post 789592)
Ok definitetly not puberty then.

Tell us about how you are caring for him. Daily routine, how often is the bird out of cage, whatís the diet like. Give us all the details you can.

Also, have you ever taken the bird in to a certified avian vet for a full check up, including full bloodwork?

My daily routine would be that I would wake up at around 10 or 11am, pull the covers up from her cage, say good morning and everything. I would change her water everyday and blah, blah, blah. At around 12, I would take her out and cuddle with her and spend a little bit over 2 hours with her. I'll put her back, let her eat, drink, bathe, whatever she needed. After that, I would take her out again and let her spend time with my family as she is a very social bird.

Her diet is a bit... weird? I'll give her fruit. Mainly seedless watermelon and apple but, half of the time, she's scared of it, so I'll need to chop it up and give it to her in a separate bowl. I'll even give her some healthy nuts and greens occasionally.
Her normal food is seed with some pellets and hidden fruit inside.

Lastly, I have not recently but I have been planning to do so for my other bird, Sky. I could make an appointment for her, too.

Laurasea 01-04-2019 02:39 PM

Re: Horrible, Sudden Aggression in Green Cheek Conure
 
Hi welcome to the forum. I agree probably puberty, though I never noticed a puberty phase with either of my two GCC girls... Many Parrots can be cage agressive but wonderful once you get them away from the cage, can you allow her to come out on her own and have a perch attached outside the cage near the door? Then ask her to step up from there. All baby birds are sweet as adults they have independent thought and like to train us. Is she flighted? Anyway if she will come out of the cage on her own then you take her to a separate play ate you have set up with perches and you can do some training or play there lots of safflower seeds as treats most GCC can't resist! Try including her when you eat breakfast set up a small stand for her and her own plate of veggies, you can share a bite of toast or a bite or two of egg, or piece of dry cerel once in a while. Parrots thrive on group activity. So try and include her in everything. Try to spend four hours a day or more interactive with her. The cure is more time together, and bribes, a treat Everytime anyone passes the cage. If you are on your phone a lot she could be jealous, mine is very jealous of the attention I pay my phone and that's attention she's not getting, plus talking on the phone, forget it she thinks I'm sweet talking someone else!!! I gave her lots of treats when I held the phone so now she is ok with me holding it, but talking on the phone equals bites in my house. You can try treats and reading the text out loud to her like you are having a conversation with her ;) .... There are a lot of reasons for bites, territorial, fear, jealousy, boredom... I'm in the camp all (most) bites are the owners fault and you need to look at the cause and read their body language and make changes to reduce bites,..

Laurasea 01-04-2019 02:41 PM

Re: Horrible, Sudden Aggression in Green Cheek Conure
 
Cut down the fruit right now! Fruit twice a week Max. Veggies every day .

SilverHybrid 01-04-2019 02:50 PM

Re: Horrible, Sudden Aggression in Green Cheek Conure
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Laurasea (Post 789596)
Hi welcome to the forum. I agree probably puberty, though I never noticed a puberty phase with either of my two GCC girls... Many Parrots can be cage agressive but wonderful once you get them away from the cage, can you allow her to come out on her own and have a perch attached outside the cage near the door? Then ask her to step up from there. All baby birds are sweet as adults they have independent thought and like to train us. Is she flighted? Anyway if she will come out of the cage on her own then you take her to a separate play ate you have set up with perches and you can do some training or play there lots of safflower seeds as treats most GCC can't resist! Try including her when you eat breakfast set up a small stand for her and her own plate of veggies, you can share a bite of toast or a bite or two of egg, or piece of dry cerel once in a while. Parrots thrive on group activity. So try and include her in everything. Try to spend four hours a day or more interactive with her. The cure is more time together, and bribes, a treat Everytime anyone passes the cage. If you are on your phone a lot she could be jealous, mine is very jealous of the attention I pay my phone and that's attention she's not getting, plus talking on the phone, forget it she thinks I'm sweet talking someone else!!! I gave her lots of treats when I held the phone so now she is ok with me holding it, but talking on the phone equals bites in my house. You can try treats and reading the text out loud to her like you are having a conversation with her ;) .... There are a lot of reasons for bites, territorial, fear, jealousy, boredom... I'm in the camp all (most) bites are the owners fault and you need to look at the cause and read their body language and make changes to reduce bites,..

Thank you so much for you response! The cage I have for her right now has a opening on top of the cage with a perch that she could climb up to and spend time out of her cage whenever she wants. Once she's up there, I try to get her to step up but she does her usual thing : biting and lunging towards my finger.

Weirdly enough, her flight feathers have no come in ever since I got her. Not to mention, she doesn't try to fly at all, only when she is truly terrified of something.

I try to include her in everything that I do, as I did before she turned aggressive, but she won't even let me near the cage without lunging towards me.

Though, despite everything, I am thinking about the jealousy part. As I do play video games, I take her out and let her spend time with me as I play. I'm also on my phone a lot but, even then, I spend time with her. So, I don't believe it is that.


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