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Old 01-15-2019, 05:48 PM
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Re: possibly laying an egg?

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You could try useing a grass woven Matt, and kind of hang it in front of the perch. Or try hanging toys and things to give visual privacy to her sleep corner. When does she come home?
well if I can find one of those here... if not maybe ordering online, hate the shipping fees though...

hopefully tomorrow afternoon... the vet wanted to hold her for another night to be sure and I need to call again tomorrow morning... I can't wait to go get her!!! but I'm a bit unsure of how to handle her with the wound and all... she's normally very hyperactive and always climbing, flying, running around and we're used to just grab her like an apple (she loves it actually) and carry her around...
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Old 01-15-2019, 06:25 PM
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Re: possibly laying an egg?

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I'm more confused about what could all go wrong and about the whole lawsuit and related things, I didn't realize it was such a big thing... also about how we somehow automatically pugh our human behaviour or things we're used to do onto our pets o_O as in I'm used to sleep in a bed so she got a hut to lay in when birds naturally sleep up in a tree and deffinitelly not sideways on their wing like my fluff gotused to doing... also yes the lurking from the hut is just too adorable


this si the whole cage set up, but most of the time I'm her favourite perch and toy anyway, she's out of the cage a lot:


I also got a cardboard box, took out one side of it and placed a towel on the 'floor', will add paper towels on top of that and her food and water bowls and place it onto the cage floor so she won't have to climb till she feels like she can do it... now to get the fluff to want to eat more veggies too...
EDIT: I wrote this before I knew about the surgery ---didn't see it (the box) was going to be just walls w/ no ceiling. Sorry!
The cage looks good overall---- seriously though:
You do not want to give her ANY cave-like structures. No cardboard boxes...no underneath furniture...no full cuddles...no blankets...no pillows..no tents/huts/hollow...not even piles of crumbled paper---shadowy spaces=bad. The cardboard box that you mentioned is safer than the hut in terms of choking/strangulation/intestinal issues but just as dangerous hormonally (hormonal birds can get egg-bound (which can lead to prolapse of the cloaca, expensive surgery and/or death). A hormonal bird may start plucking, scream more, self-mutilate, and attack other people and/or birds---PS-egg-binding is the result of an egg forming internally, which cannot be passed- it is more common than one would think). You may not think your bird is hormonal, but the signs are often very subtle and just because you haven't seen the consequences of a sexually frustrated/"rejected"/spurned bird, doesn't mean they won't appear one day (of times in relation to the person they love most---you don't want them to misunderstand your relationship). That is why it's so important to do everything you can to minimize the triggers.

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Old 01-15-2019, 06:36 PM
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Re: possibly laying an egg?

it was meant for just the few days till she is back to normal so she doesn't climb as her cage is a tall one... and it does not even have a top so nothing cave like at all, just the bottom and 3 sides... I just don't feel comfortable with her needing to climb up and down the whole cage just 2 days after a freaking surgery... so please, you got any other ideas?
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Old 01-15-2019, 06:39 PM
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Re: possibly laying an egg?

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it was meant for just the few days till she is back to normal so she doesn't climb as her cage is a tall one... and it does not even have a top so nothing cave like at all, just the bottom and 3 sides... I just don't feel comfortable with her needing to climb up and down the whole cage just 2 days after a freaking surgery... so please, you got any other ideas?

I misunderstood- I thought this was a long term thing- I only read back over the the last couple pages, so I missed that--I also thought that the box would have a roof (which was my main issue). Let me think and if I come up with anything... Can you just put a perch like an inch above the ground or even level with the ground? Why are you wanting the box exactly? Also, you could just get those screw in food cups and put them on the wall of the cage floor. If you are worried she will feel vulnerable, could you place the cage on a table and lock the wheels so that she feels farther off the ground? It is going to be hard to keep a box/towel clean--if the grate were open, it would keep her out of the way of her poop etc., unless the vet recommended that you do it with the towel/box (then follow his/her advice).

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Old 01-15-2019, 06:54 PM
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Re: possibly laying an egg?

I should probably take a photo of it, might help... the thing is, the cage has these bars above the drawer with the newspapers (you know, where the poop goes heh) and the bars of the thing are not really for for her small feet, she does go down there sometimes and it isn't easy for her to walk on it much less sleep or stand for longer on those... so I wanted to make it easier and just put something there for her to walk on it or something... you know, flat and no holes... make her have an easier access to food and water till she can climb well again and with less pain...

put the cage on the table? the cage is almost as tall as I am, I can't even fit it through the door properly, how do I tie it to the table o_O and sadly I don't just have any random screw-in food cups at home... I'd love to have the whole pet store of toys and cage accessories at home, but sadly that is not possible... this country does not make things easy for parrot owners, I need to order almost everything online and delivery can be a week (if I'm lucky) or more... I will put a perch just above the ground though...
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Old 01-15-2019, 07:01 PM
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Re: possibly laying an egg?

I see what you mean now...Hmm...I didn't know that the grate had wide spacing...Okay---one other possibility---does she have a travel cage that she tolerates and could she possibly spend the first few nights in there on the ground (assuming bar spacing of the grate is better in that one)? If it stresses her out too much, then that could be bad. Edit- WOULD be bad. Stress and healing=enemies.

Will the box cover the entire cage floor so that she cant stumble out of it?
LONG TERM: I wonder if you could get a grate for the cage that has better spacing---That is a slide-out grate, right? It looks like a smaller version of the one I have for my cockatoo. If so, the very bottom tray and the slotted grate should pull out separately (so maybe they sell grates with closer wires that you could use in its place).

For now, I suppose you could just remove the grate entirely, but then the poop is still going to get all over and I don't know if there would be sharp edges or gaps left behind if the grate is removed...I am guessing the floor would also be slick to walk on if it was just powder-coated metal, so....hmm...tough---how does she do on smooth surfaces like tables? If she handles it, then it could work (barring any gaps/problematic edges)...Do you think she will want to climb down? A perch that is low to the ground and crosses the full cage could allow her to get to what she wants without jumping or climbing a ton---again, I am not sure how incapacitated she was by this whole ordeal, so I am just throwing things out there. I would hate to tell you the wrong thing and then have her fall or something.

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Old 01-15-2019, 07:10 PM
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Re: possibly laying an egg?

If you bird is NOT a chewer, you might be able to rig the food cups to the side using something like a zip-tie (not sure how toxic those would be if chewed, but I have heard of people using them).


You might be able to elevate the cage with something like phone-books, bricks, cinder-blocks etc...You could likely remove the wheels to keep it from rolling (if you chose to do that).

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Old 01-15-2019, 07:16 PM
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Re: possibly laying an egg?

travel cage - yes.... tolerate - not really... also it's small and dark and just no...

buying another grate is like buying a unicorn... I know it probably sounds stupid or silly or as an excuse to most people, but it really is very hard to get anything for a parrot around here... I wish it was different and birds were more common pets, yet sadly we're not there yet...

I have not seen her after the surgery yet, all I have is the ''she's doing fine'' from the vet... I'll hopefully see her tomorrow and will be able to see for myself how well she is feeling, how much she can move around and all this... I'm just happy she made it and is alive and can be home soon...
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Re: possibly laying an egg?

I think getting a grate would even be tough in the US, but you might be able to get one (as that cage looks a lot like mine and I think they may various bar widths for many sizes---at least somewhere in the world). I am not saying that you will be able to get one soon---but just maybe in the next year or so lol.

I hope she does well too! I am so glad you were smart enough to notice the issues and deal with them right away---very scary.

Sorry I couldn't help more!
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Old 01-15-2019, 07:29 PM
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Re: possibly laying an egg?

oh well.... maybe buy a new cage before I only get the grate, sounds a better idea...

that bird is my life, she is my everything, I can't just not notice when she does something out of character, it freaks me out... for once I am happy I panicked and ''overreacted''... going through my own knee injury, operation and rehabilitation (which took 2 years form injury to operation due to some very unfortunate circumstances and some stupid doctors and months of aftercare) seems like a walk in the park easy compared to this week...
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