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Old 02-21-2019, 07:32 PM
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Re: What are the Best triangle beds for Conures?

Others have already probably warned you on the dangers of sleeping tents, but if you must go that route, get a grassmatt one It at least doesn't have any fibers that your bird can ingest. You still need to be careful/mindful of it promoting broody/hormonal behavior though
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Old 02-21-2019, 09:31 PM
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Re: What are the Best triangle beds for Conures?

OK, I think everyone hears the message about tents. I want to know about a simple cardboard tube that I see my conure likes to sleep in. There is no nesting material. Am I at risk for hormonal behaviors to kick in? She only has access to this tube when she is in the sleeping cage. I am assuming this is not a problem because it is only used for sleeping.

My bird is a juvenile so I got to think ahead.
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Old 02-21-2019, 09:35 PM
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Re: What are the Best triangle beds for Conures?

What I did for my boy after I found out how dangerous the huts were was buy a corner perch. Most people use them for disabled birds but I like them cause I find that they form a more stable surface for them to sleep safely at night. It probably doesn’t matter but both of the fids use them over their other perches at night.
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Old 02-22-2019, 03:07 AM
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Re: What are the Best triangle beds for Conures?

this just sprung into my head and I'm not sure why I didn't think sooner as it's what I used



It's a "bird Trapese" is what I used to search for it. My conure LOVED his, soft on the feet, fun and not a nesty spot so no fear of hormones
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Re: What are the Best triangle beds for Conures?

It's weird about all the 'hormonal' talk cause that's never been an issue (knock on wood) with Skittles and I. Which is funny, because we are honestly as close and bonded as a human and bird can be. lol. Yet, I have NEVER run into a hormonal issue with him. However, when I had Peaches, my cockatiel, she was VERY hormonal that it became a health issue. But she and I were very close as well but I always put the kibosh on the 'hormonal' behavior around me. But she was like a football. She wouldn't let anyone pet her (but she would land on people from time to time, but she wouldn't let ANYONE but me hold her) The ironic thing is, she didn't bite. She NEVER bit me in the nearly 20yrs I had her. That is NOT an exaggeration. Even Skittles has gotten nasty with me from time to time. Though its been awhile he did break my skin open several times back in the first years of having him. Anyways, sorry for my rant.

@Boki I think cardboard is fine as long as its clean and doesn't have any foreign materials on it. I do Skittles sleep tents with that and have for years. I use paper towels for the 'bedding'. I do know that my vet told me NOT to put newspaper on the floor of any of his cages cause of the ink. However, both his cages have grates and he can't get to them cause I tape them down.
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Re: What are the Best triangle beds for Conures?

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OK, I think everyone hears the message about tents. I want to know about a simple cardboard tube that I see my conure likes to sleep in. There is no nesting material. Am I at risk for hormonal behaviors to kick in? She only has access to this tube when she is in the sleeping cage. I am assuming this is not a problem because it is only used for sleeping.

My bird is a juvenile so I got to think ahead.
Yes, you are still at risk for hormones with the tube. Anytime they can get their head into a place that is more shadowy than the rest of the room, then yes. Smart to think ahead.
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Re: What are the Best triangle beds for Conures?

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OK, I think everyone hears the message about tents. I want to know about a simple cardboard tube that I see my conure likes to sleep in. There is no nesting material. Am I at risk for hormonal behaviors to kick in? She only has access to this tube when she is in the sleeping cage. I am assuming this is not a problem because it is only used for sleeping.

My bird is a juvenile so I got to think ahead.
You absolutely need to remove the cardboard tube, it's the exact same thing as the Huts/Tents etc...It's a small, dark place (very small in this instance) that your bird is going inside of...This is no different than him getting underneath furniture, getting inside of a "Snuggle Hut", a tent, a triangle bed, etc. It's going to eventually cause extreme hormonal behavior, if it hasn't already, and for males that will include horrible aggression and violence, and in females it unfortuantely is a risk to their lives due to eggs...

****The only difference between them having a carboard tube or box to get inside of or furniture to get underneath or nesting material in the bottom of their cages and one of the "Snuggle Huts"/Triangle Beds, as they BOTH cause severe hormonal behavior, is that the fabric Huts/Beds/Tents also pose an additional risk to their health in that they often eat the material little by little over time, and eventually it forms a Bowel-Obstruction because they can't digest it, and threads loosen and they either hang themselves or get their legs wrapped-up in them and if no one is home to free them, they can die of blood loss or lose their legs, or actually chew their legs/feet off...

So even though the cardboard tube or box doesn't pose the risk of Bowel-Obstruction or hanging, it still is a small, dark place that is going to cause hormonal behavior...And it's like a switch when it happens, just like the example with Sunny...They can go years without displaying any severe hormonal behavior, but once the 'switch" is flipped, it's nearly impossible to turn-off, and usually requires medical intervention like hormonal-implants or even surgery along with behavior-modification training to turn the hormones back off...And what causes the switch to eventually flip are the small, dark places and nesting-materials...

So you would be very wise to remove any and all carboard tubes/boxes or anything else that creates a small, dark place that your bird can get inside of or under...He will happily sleep on a perch with no issues, not withstanding a day or two of being grumpy about losing the cardboard tube...Better than suddenly having a bird that you love suddenly biting you as hard as they can, drawing blood, and being totally out of control and seemingly no longer bonded with you (really not what happens, but that's exactly what it feels like)...
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Re: What are the Best triangle beds for Conures?

Thank you all for your insight and experience. I only got the cardboard tube as when I would get her in the morning in the sleeping cage, she was always at the bottom of the cage. I thought it was a bad sign for a bird to want to be at the bottom of the cage. She was not on any perch. I assumed it was on the bottom of the cage out of fear.

I also appreciated the details of flipped hormonal switch as I did not know what exactly what was extreme hormonal behavior and definitely don't want any flipped switches. She will definitely grumpy not seeing her tube as that is the reason she goes so quickly into the sleeping cage. She runs up and down that tube about 20 times as seems to happy about it. I did have the tube on a slight incline but she still loved it.

The tube will come out today.
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Re: What are the Best triangle beds for Conures?

I've had issues with female birds and hormonal behavior, definitely was with Peaches, my tiel. I ended up having to remove some toys from her cage cause she would try to 'mate' with them.

Also, mirrors can cause hormonal behavior as well. Skittles doesn't have ANY mirrors in his cage. He's got enough of an ego as it is. lol.

@EllenD I will have to consider hormonal behavior should Skittles ever become overly aggressive with me, so I appreciate that insight!

As for the OP, when I removed Skittles cuddle hut, I think it was harder on me than it was on him. LOL. I HATED doing it because I knew how much he loved it. But he adjusted just fine. I almost wonder if that hut had played a part in the behavioral issues I was having at the time with him (prior to the retraining). The cardboard hasn't posed a problem for me and him and neither has letting him 'hideout' inside my shirt when I'm wearing it.
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Re: What are the Best triangle beds for Conures?

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The cardboard hasn't posed a problem for me and him and neither has letting him 'hideout' inside my shirt when I'm wearing it.

It hasn't yet, that you know of (he could be very hormonal, but just content with your relationship). I would just be very cautious---sometimes it isn't that obvious.

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