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Old 05-21-2019, 01:57 PM
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Re: Green cheek biting constantly

OK Day 2 of the shunning method, so far today has been pretty difficult, mainly because he won't keep off my shoulders and head.

He'll bite, I'll put him on the ground, turn my back on him and 9 times out of 10 he'll fly to my head or shoulders. Sometimes he'll step up onto my finger and I can put him back down again other times he won't or will bite my neck if I try to remove him.

It's really hard to reinforce the idea that biting means no attention when he can essentially force me to give him attention by flying on me and having me remove him.

He has been managing to sit on my hand for short amounts of time but inevitably will bite.

Also having a hard time getting him into his cage. I've not been chasing him. It usually goes like this:

I call him over, offering my hand. He then flies over, ignores my hand and lands on my head or shoulder. I'm then left with having to shun him for landing in the wrong place. I try again soon after. When he finally lands on my hand I give him a treat. I then try to lower him into the cage. He flies off. repeat forever until I can lower him almost to the bottom of the cage. He bites me just as I'm closing the door and I'm left unable to reward him for going into the cage cause he just bit me and I don't want to reinforce that behavior.

This is going to be a long process.
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Re: Green cheek biting constantly

Maybe he feels your stress.
Ok, so I like my birds flighted, but initially, I have always had my birds clipped until we all got to know each other. Perhaps a light wing clip would help in this situation?
Sorry you are going through this. Conures can be so stinky and bitey.
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Re: Green cheek biting constantly

This is why I personally feel that for a flighted bird, a time-out cage (or safe isolation room) can be beneficial in attention-seeking situations like this one...but you can't return if there is screaming..
That having been said, 2 days isn't a very long time, so it's a bit hard to know what is working at this point.

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Re: Green cheek biting constantly

Other than shunning I've heard no mention of training . Target training in particular. As myself and others have mentioned this needs to part of a regular schedule teaching your bird to target will do many things but if your trying to teach him to come off his cage, go in his cage , land on your hand or ANYWHERE, you need to start this right away. You have to start somewhere and this is it. Training gives the bird purpose and direction and when you speak two very different languages this is your bridge.

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Re: Green cheek biting constantly

RemiBird: Yea he probably does, I'll need to practice keeping calm with him. We had discussed wing clipping but the breeder advised that it wasn't such a good idea in the first year because they're still developing their muscles and should be fully developed first. Maybe we will later, but it's a way off just now. It sure would help though!

noodles123: a time out cage would be great. Need to try that. doubt he'd go in without a fight though.

Flynhigh: You're totally right. We've been casually directing him places and rewarding him when he got there but not formally training. I started a more structured approach today, just within his cage to begin with. I have a chop stick and placed it to a place in the cage. When he'd go there I'd give him a bite of a nutriberry then move the stick to another part of the cage. he wasn't sure at first but after a while he was going to the stick right away and giving it a nibble to get the treat.

Will get him out of his cage again later and will try directing him around the room with the stick, from his perch to the top of the cage and back again. rewarding all the way. Hopefully giving him a task will help distract him from the biting.
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Re: Green cheek biting constantly

The shun method, huh? I’ll have to remember that.

I notice my Green Cheek Conure will often fly in effort to follow me if I deign to so much as leave her eye sight for a second. In flying after me or my wife, she always lands on the floor. I notice she hates the floor! Want to know something else she hates? Toes! At least, I perceive this enmity exists. What is it about toes that my Conure hates so much? Do toes jog genetic bad memories of large tropical spiders?

I was about to say that maybe she just bites our toes every chance she gets when she is on the floor because the feet (and toes) happen to interface with our bird being located on the floor, while feeling shunned? But that wouldn’t explain why she still goes after toes even when she sees them uncovered in our beds? Not just our toes, but our fingers too, if our fingers start to resemble spider or octopus legs.

I think something else has to be said about the “excitement” mode the gentleman described. When my GCC gets excited, she will bite too, along with strutting back and forth with her tail feathers fanned out while bobbing her head up and down. Or, she’ll literally creep back and forth in super slow motion, with her head cocked up to the side—so as to “keep an eye on me” at all times—again with her tail feathers fanned out again. The first dance I call Chief Crazy Feather, just because it’s so funny to see her do this that I have to give it a name. The slow mo moves are something we’ve coined The Creeper! There’s a third variation, where instead of super slow motion creeping, she’ll take a few super fast steps and then stop in mid stride, then wait a couple seconds and then she’ll take a few super fast steps again and then once more stop in mid stride. I call that The Skipper. She has her quirks!


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