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Old 06-10-2019, 07:15 AM
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Re: Please Help, i regret buying a conure

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... I could keep him, but im having anxiety about getting too attached to him because i've heard alot of stories of petco pets dying after a few weeks. If i really thought about buying a conure, and i really wanted one, i would have gotten one from someone who handles birds. I literally put zero thought into buying him...
Hi, my Sun Conure came from Petco. She came with balance issues, but is otherwise healthy. She is happy and loving. In my case, she was not exactly an impulse buy - I had been Looking at (including handling) various birds for a while, but had decided to stick with my budgies only. But then I saw MY Sunny in a Petco & Fell In Love. (One difference - I waited a week. I couldn't stop thinking about her; prayed about it; went back several times to try to convince myself to forget her; etc. But she was still there and I just fell more in love.. so now she's Mine!)

Anyways, after I got her, I met an owner of a several other Conures from the Petco. They were great birds in great health.

This is just to say - IF you made a mistake, IF you don't feel this is the bird for you, then I also agree with every other bit of advice given to you so far.

BUT -- your one comment indicates one reason as anxiety over where you purchased your bird. So this is why I wanted to chime in. I would never advocate Planning to find your bird from Petco, but I'm just suggesting, try to evaluate now AS IF it came from elsewhere. Any bird could live a long healthy life, any bird could die early from a thousand souces.

Also when I bought home my Sunny I had a great amount of Anxiety and felt certain I had made a terrible mistake. So the Anxiety itself is also normal. IF IF IF you Love this bird then you really might want to consider whether you can make it work. (I know, you said you don't. But, then you almost imply one reason you don't love it, is because of the source. That's the only reason I'm chiming in! Now that you have the bird, please try to evaluate your Feelings about him As If you were happy about the souce.) For me, I work all day. And right now I still have PT appts & etc. FOR ME - well, my two two non-tame budgies are company for My Sun Conure. I leave Classical music on the radio when I leave for the day.

Again, I just wanted to state that I got my Petco bird because I love her. And I would never want to give her up if I could avoid it! I never planned to shop there for a Conure but that's where SHE was.

Petco isn't the place to start, BUT, once you have the bird then Petco does NOT=Bad Bird.

But again, assuming you have made a mistake, and purchased the Wrong bird or just at the Wrong time, then please follow all the other advice on this thread, as soon as you're able to.

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Old 06-10-2019, 07:39 AM
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Re: Please Help, i regret buying a conure

You made the impulse buy already, but at the same time you stated you were interested in the bird due to how friendly your friends conure was? I would not panic and let anxiety give in and sit back and give it time. The bird at first is going to bite and be scared in general of you at first. You have to remember he moved into a whole another environment and doesn't know you. Go slow and don't force him out and to like you. Let him stay in his cage for two days without you bother him, so he gets use to his environment, then next day open up the cage door and don't do anything else and see if he come out on his own. It may take longer, but let him adapt to the environment and your routine. Don't stare at him, or push him out by any means. Then slowly once he out move slowly towards him but if you see him getting scared back off and repeat with breaks over the next few days, till he allow you to go close to him. If he not clip will be easy to train. If he isn't clipped, I would suggest you get him clipped, as it be easy for you to handle him and for him to more rely on you. The bird will likely step up when on the floor, or in different area as they hate being there. So he will learn to trust you quicker. It will take a while for him to trust and start to bond with you. But don't rush and just claim down. You soon realize he can be friendly as your friend conure is. You sure ask your friend for advise as well since he already has one and his is tame.

As far as cleaning routine and stuff you need to know that dangerous to birds others member will soon chime in and link to to some threads. Read them and learn and maybe you do fine with the bird and soon see him as a good decision, instead of a bad one. You came to the right place for advise. If you still don't feel a bird is right for you, or lack the time, members here will likely help you re-home him, or even be interested in the bird if your in the area. Just avoid Craigslist and Facebook as you have pet flippers that only care about money they can make and will lie claiming to be a good home to get bird cheap, or for free to make a profit with very little, to no care for the animal they are flipping.

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Old 06-10-2019, 08:00 AM
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Re: Please Help, i regret buying a conure

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Thank you for replying. I could keep him, but im having anxiety about getting too attached to him because i've heard alot of stories of petco pets dying after a few weeks. If i really thought about buying a conure, and i really wanted one, i would have gotten one from someone who handles birds. I literally put zero thought into buying him. The only thing that really got me to buy him is my friend offered to buy him off me once he saves up enough money, but that'll be awhile. And like i said, he has a lot of experience with conures. I might just call up petco tomorrow and see what they say. Training these birds is a lot of work, i've tried training him for days at a time, it's hard, and recently he's been very stubborn and dosent want to do anything but sit on my shoulder and bite me. I just don't have the patience, and i'm at work a lot so i can't spend as much time with him

The fact he sitting on your shoulder he not scared of you then. Now the biting can stop. First you have to train him shoulder is a privilege and he not allow up their for now, if he running up your arm, put your arm up, so he higher then you and not likely to come down your arm to go up your shoulder. Now if he can fly, I would suggest you get him clip as you harder to train a bird when they can fly as they are more independent. Not to say you can't train a bird that can fly as done so many times, but does take more skills and a little longer. Now when he bites you have to not panic and scream, he get that reaction and will just keep on biting even worst. You have to when he bites put him down, on floor, chair, or couch, or training stand "Don't put him in his cage as it his safe place and will reinforce the biting if anything" and walk a few inches away and ignore him, he learn in time that a bad unwanted behavior and won't be accepted. It took my female umbrella cockatoo 3 days to learn not to bite me using this method. Mainly don't give in to what he wants when he bites, as he learn that all he has to do is bite to get what he wants. Parrots are smart.

Plus mostly everyone works and routines change all the time, find some time and learn to adjust. I had my first bird when I was around 14 years old and when older had collage and a job to go to and made it work. Don't put road blocks in place right off the back and make excuses. It will makes you a better and more valuable person long term if you learn and learn to adapt to situations. You have to learn from the mistake, don't let it consume you and over think it, but overcome it. In time you may realize that bird may have been your best decision once you get over come the hump, then maybe not, but you have to put effort and at very at least try and not give up, so easy.

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Old 06-10-2019, 10:57 AM
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Re: Please Help, i regret buying a conure

It was very mature of you to recognize your mistake and do your best to rectify it. It was very mature of you to come to a parrot forum and ask what you should do and by giving us all the details, unsavory or not. Don't feel bad, others have made this mistake, impulse bought, or not researched before. Some of us can attest to birds being dropped on us and then having to be a quick study on the species of bird and prove the best home and care for the bird. Some of us also do have years of research and full intentions to get one specific bird. See, all of these situations are okay, so long as you are ready to care for this bird and be able to financially support it. Am I saying impulse buy every animal you kind want? No. Just know that people make these mistakes too and then can support the bird afterwards.

As others have suggested-- sit down and really think. What is best for the bird AND you? Are you making a hasty decision by wanting to rehome him? Do you really want to rehome him or do you feel like you're at the end of your stick and panicking? I suffer from generalized anxiety, so I totally understand feeling the anxiety and feeling the panic set in. I have a hard time stopping it or thinking clearly,

As for your friend, I would like to find out why he had a conure for only two years. Did he have an elderly rescue who passed away? Did the bird become sick and pass on? Did the bird get rehomed for behavioral issues and whatnot? I would not trust him with a bird, especially if he is the one who pressured you into getting a $400+ animal and all of its needed items (cage, toys, food, etc.), knowing full well that you have little to no experience with the species, aside from how you and his bird had interacted. Of course, there is responsibility on your part for the peer pressure, but you've taken responsibility and we'll move on from that.

Also, I've seen the issue of what are you going to do with the bird and college. I have a lovely GCC named Callum. My little love bug who would cuddle and kiss me all day if he could. Gets jealous when I pet the dog or kiss one of my other pets and not him (more of just angry/jealous head bobbing from the top of his cage). I attend college, but I made some huge adjustments, just for him. I attend a community college, so there are no dorms on campus and that means my bird and I didn't have to move, much less be separated. I am not in school eight hours a day, more like two or three. The drive is barely fifteen minutes. Then, when I come home, Callum gets free roam of my room and home until it's bed time.

This free roaming has really lowered any behavioral issues he had and also minimizes screaming. Except... when he's looking out the window and doesn't know how to get back to me, so he calls for me to "save" him. Then cuddles up to me for "saving" him.

Of course, when I started the journey with my birds (I used to have a pair of budgies, now just one sadly), I was scared of how college and its homework would take up my time. Now, I do homework with Callum on my shoulder. I just have to be careful that he doesn't chew up my paper. I don't think the "my bird chewed up my homework" excuse would fly with my professors! Ha, do you like the double pun?

Anyways, if you decide to keep the bird, please heed everyone's advice. If you decide to rehome the bird, please also take everyone's advice. I would advise against Craigslist. There are unsavory people out there and, for whatever reason, they are drawn to that site. Look into local bird rescues (if you don't know any, search for pet birds on Petfinder and look at the rescues that are offering birds up for adoption), or bird sanctuaries.

I mean, if you lived in or near Minnesota, USA, I'd take the little GCC in a heartbeat.
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My mom dosent have any teflon pans, i haven't used any febreeze or cleaning supplies in my room since i got him (Which i kind of hate because i usually use febreeze quite often). and when i use cologne i do it away from him in the bathroom. My mom uses incense and some febreeze in the living room which is quite far away from my room, i don't know if that would affect him or not. It just scares me having this much responsibility, and having to watch everything i do. So you're telling me returning him to petco would be better than giving him to my friend? His bird died when he wasn't home, he has no idea how he died. This is the reason why i don't really want a bird. I can't imagine if i finally build a bond up with this bird and he mysteriously dies like its nothing. Another thing, i have a shower in my room. Is it safe to even shower in here if im using body wash/shampoo? I also do vape, i looked it up and it said it was harmless to birds... maybe not? Also my friends can be very stupid and do things like smoke weed in my room. Honestly i'm definitely not ready to own this bird. I'm gonna see what petco says i guess
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Re: Please Help, i regret buying a conure

I am glad you are taking it seriously.

If you are considering your friend as an option, you need to have a serious talk with his parents and figure out how much they know about birds...and whether they even want one( don't just ask him---he will tell you whatever you want to hear because he misses his bird). AGAIN, it doesn't matter what he says, as this bird will become THEIR responsibility when he goes to college, stays out late, doesn't wake up in time to uncover the bird due to a hangover etc etc.
They may not be willing to take care of a (potentially) screaming, biting bird with respiratory sensitivities. The bird needs to be a family member--- they are flock animals. Tucking them into some back room will not suffice long-term.

If your friend's parents have no intentions of making adjustments to their lifestyle (eliminating Teflon, smoking, chemicals, candles etc from their entire home) and training/caring for a bird for upwards of 20+ years, then the bird would be better off going to a home where he is wanted for the rest of his long life--this chance may be higher at Petco. In terms of interactions, we are talking a few hours out of cage time every day....lots of toys...potential vet bills (on top of the annual visit) etc etc. It is important to look at this honestly.

You need to make sure that they aren't the types of people who think a bird can just be left in its cage like a hamster--it is a big job. In many respects, birds take more work than dogs (as their behavior is less intuitive to most people and as their sensitivities require major lifestyle changes). Like a dog, they are a whole-family pet and they really need to be integrated into the daily household routine. Unlike a dog, they may only ever like 1 or 2 people in a household (despite the fact that they appreciate being around the others). If your friend's parents are not fully committed, then his intentions mean little (just because he is probably 17-18 now too, and without his parents' full support, there is no way to make it work).

A lot of times when birds die suddenly, it was due to something chemical in the home, or due to an illness that went untreated (they hide illness so by the time symptoms show up, the situation is quiet serious---this is not the same with mammals/dogs/cats/etc). Chemicals and birds= very serious combination.

VAPING IS NOT HARMLESS AROUND A BIRD. IT IS SUPER DANGEROUS FOR THEM. When you vape, you are inhaling numerous synthetic chemicals (flavor) + nicotine. Nicotine alone can kill a bird in chemical form ...it is a stimulant and they get more of it than you do as a result of their efficient respiratory system and due to their size in proportion to the amount...Then, you add the synthetic flavor/chemicals...=not good.
What source said that it was safe?!?!
No smoking of any kind around birds-- weed, cigarettes,hookah, vaping, cloves, cigars, crack (lol)---but seriously---no smoking around birds. Even burning food or candles around them is harmful.

Your mom really will need to avoid using those products that you mentioned. Switch to natural cleaning products and no incense or fabreeze (vinegar+water is one of the safest, as is grapefruit seed extract + water, or baking soda for scrubbing---not all "natural" cleaners from the store are safe, so you really have to look into this)... Birds are so much more sensitive than mammals. If Teflon can kill a bird on a separate floor with doors shut, it is likely that other chemicals circulate our homes in the same way. Essential oils aren't even safe for them in many cases...I know it sounds crazy, but it is absolutely true and that is why the whole "canary in the coal-mine" thing worked for miners back in the day.

You shouldn't keep your bird in your room- it needs to be in the room of the house where there is the most activity throughout the day and you need to make sure your parents are seriously okay with changing the things they use in the house.
If you had to shower in your room (and for some reason your bird was still in there--remember-birds shouldn't live in bedrooms), it would depend on the types of soap you were using.
Tea-tree oil is very harmful for them when inhaled...and it is in a lot of shampoos.
If you have crazy Axe body wash etc, that could be harmful, but a quick shampoo and scrub with a low-scent soap shouldn't be too bad---it just depends on the type of soap etc and the level of ventilation.

If you must wear cologne, I would keep it super minimal and give yourself a lot of time to air-out before coming around the bird. When I wear perfume (which is rare these days), I spray it on in my car before heading to work--by the time I come home, it has faded significantly. I do not use it in my bird's air-space (same with hairspray etc).

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Please, back to Petco!
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Re: Please Help, i regret buying a conure

You best bet is to re-home, or see if Petco will take back bird. If you live close to IN, I take the bird and give you some money for the bird. Even when I don't need another bird, I know someone that will take in a Conure in a heartbeat that will give the bird a good home. Don't give bird to your friend as his clearly died for a reason and likely due to a bad reason.

At very least I give you the fact your being honest, but is likely reason your friend Conure died, which I didn't know before? You and your friends can't smoke, or vape around your bird period for various reasons. You would need a couple good air purifiers like IQair with large carbon filters like the HealthPro Plus, or MultiGas GC Air Purifier and keep smoking/vaping activities outside. Plus bird sure be around family not just in your room, which means parents and other family members full support and want a bird as well, otherwise it is very hard to make it work without support. Part of growing up is accepting responsibility and having to watch everything you do, depending on situation. Unless your willing to change routine and smoke outdoors, including your friends smoke outside, or not at all and explain to them is due to you having a bird that can have respiratory issues, or even death, so no longer can be tolerated as far as smoking in room goes. Best thing you can do is re-home bird, before something bad happens, then the bird would be better off going to a home where he is wanted for the rest of his long life, if taken care of can live 20 years plus.

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Re: Please Help, i regret buying a conure

RedBoat, thanks so much for honesty and caring. Agree with the previous advice, either re-home or return to Petco is best for all. One day in the future you will be in a far better position to have a companion bird!
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I agree with the general sentiments already expressed that the mature and responsible thing to do would be to either return him to petco or rehome him. If you opt to rehome him, please do NOT sell him to the friends who smokes weed and who’s bird mysteriously died at 2 years of age. Conures live 30+ years, even with poor genetics and diet, they do not just drop dead after a couple years for no reason. There was a reason. Possibly Teflon fumes if those products are used in his home or other airborne toxins or even an untreated infection. Your friend is not in any better position at this time in life to own a bird than you are. If he can’t even come up with $400 for the bird, what would he do if the bird got sick and had a $1000 vet bill? Please rehome to a responsible adult who can provide adequate cage, toys, healthy diet, attention and vet care. Ask your parent(s) to help screen potential buyers if you aren’t sure what to look for to make sure he ends up with someone who can actually take care of him.
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