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Old 08-31-2019, 06:15 AM
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Re: My GCC mutilates himself :(

this is how he is at the moment. he stopped the scrathing but he has a fever. at least he eats well and flies. his mood is definitely off and doesnt talk at all constantly looking sunny spots to stay in closes his eyes during the day. i can say hes better at least




these are only partly visible it goes almost all around his neck. cant believe he can do such a thing to himself during the night he starts to scrathing and it continues up until the morning may be thats why hes sleepy during the day.
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Re: My GCC mutilates himself :(

Quote: Originally Posted by Tami2 View Post
I'm sorry to hear this.
It sounds to me like it could be a skin irritation or an allergy.
I wouldn't immediately think behavior based on what you've said about his day to day life. (which is wonderful btw)
Is it happening around the same time every year?
i think it happened with around 4 months intervals im not sure if that indicates anything.

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i suspect that as well. hes so used to eat with us persistent and you cant literally eat your own meal unless you give something to him, you just cant. persistent like a kid and he will try every possible way and disturb you get that thing from your hand. even if hes eaten literally 10 minutes ago he must eat while you are eating too. i strictly not give him the deadly foods for parrots which i noted from the google apart from that i eat healthy as well so i give him from my food. other that that i make him pellet and fruit/veggie mix in the food processor and freeze that batch as thin layers so i can break a piece and prepare it when its time for a meal. so yea may be he got some allergy from my food too im not sure.
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Re: My GCC mutilates himself :(

things are looking good hes got appetite, though even if it was his last day he would still try to eat something. hes just obsessed with eating) he has a strong grip which means he didnt lose his power. i think he will be fine but still i need to figure out the cause. may be i shouldnt give him from my food. tho its really hard imagine preparing a plate of food leave it on the table you just forgot to take a fork or glass of water and when you are back he already started to dig in. sometimes its out my control. i dont want to put him in his cage. even tho its a really big one he absolutely sees it as a prison. thats another thing we have to work on.
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Re: My GCC mutilates himself :(

It takes more calories to heal or fight infection..
The sleeping and heat seeking make me very worried...
Also make sure he gets ten hours of sleep a night.
Did you try the yogurt? It will really help balance the flora in his crop, and digestive system. I credit it to saving my green cheeck conure Ta-dah. The capsicum in red hot chili peppers also good for improving immunity, plus isca good source of vitamin A.
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Re: My GCC mutilates himself :(

Quote: Originally Posted by Laurasea View Post
It takes more calories to heal or fight infection..
The sleeping and heat seeking make me very worried...
Also make sure he gets ten hours of sleep a night.
Did you try the yogurt? It will really help balance the flora in his crop, and digestive system. I credit it to saving my green cheeck conure Ta-dah. The capsicum in red hot chili peppers also good for improving immunity, plus isca good source of vitamin A.
hes having it daily because i eat daily as well ) doesnt matter what it is whatever i eat he wants it too. sometimes i dont get it but yea hes having half a tea spoon of pure yogurt almost every day and he just stucks his face in it and then wipes it on my white tshirt
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Re: My GCC mutilates himself :(

I was only just now able to see the pictures, oh my gosh it looks do bad. Had to break your heart every day. In my opinion you need to get him medical attention, as soon as you can find an avain specialist vet, or please try the nearest vet school. Swollen eyes, the look of his neck and him constantly having to close his eyes and rest is very scary to me.....
I do have a bird that uses her feet and beak to pluck around her neck. But she has only given her self tiny pink scratches tgdt don't open the skin..
Is that black stuff dried blood,???
Your buddy needs help, birds hide how bad off they are, and the symptoms you describe make me think he is bad off. I am just so worried for you,. I wish you could find the right help s d answers!!!! Heartbreaking
Please keep us informed do we can all learn from what you two have had to go through.....
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Quote: Originally Posted by Laurasea View Post
I was only just now able to see the pictures, oh my gosh it looks do bad. Had to break your heart every day. In my opinion you need to get him medical attention, as soon as you can find an avain specialist vet, or please try the nearest vet school. Swollen eyes, the look of his neck and him constantly having to close his eyes and rest is very scary to me.....
I do have a bird that uses her feet and beak to pluck around her neck. But she has only given her self tiny pink scratches tgdt don't open the skin..
Is that black stuff dried blood,???
Your buddy needs help, birds hide how bad off they are, and the symptoms you describe make me think he is bad off. I am just so worried for you,. I wish you could find the right help s d answers!!!! Heartbreaking
Please keep us informed do we can all learn from what you two have had to go through.....
yes it is dried blood actually its worse when you see it with naked eyes. now theres very thick scrab around his neck almost like a collar. exactly like the last time it happened. sometimes while hes scratching himself he pokes his eyes and eyelids with his nails and that makes it even worse. i suspect that when he opens a wound it becomes itchy and he starts to scratch even more. but he cant penetrate the scrab now because its too thick and he rarely scratches himself at the moment. i give him vitamins and antibiotics for now if he doesnt get any better i will visit the same vet again. we live in a small town not many choices around here i will keep you guys updated.
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Re: My GCC mutilates himself :(

I'm just do worried that he doesn't have s lot of time, he has repetitive blood loss, possible infection under the scab, you said he feels hot, and is sleeping or closing his eyes a lot...
Heat seeking, sick birds need to be kept warmer. There is a radiant heat panel I use, I hang outside the cage in one corner with a perch in front of it on the inside of the cage. I've used it for near 20 years..
It's called the sweeter heater, available at Amazon and bird safe I will find the link to Amazon and edit this. It puts out a lot of radiant heat so you have to place so they can get away from the heat, and not cover the cage completely when it's on. Put your hand a few inches of front if it and leave there, you will feel your hand heat up by the radiant heat, this is not a light, but s heat panel there is no light
I'm sorry you don't have good care available near by, but for my peace of mind I must stress that he needs help soon
I would try to use warm water to soak away the old blood, without opening up the scab. Old blood will grow nasty bacteria and stuff... I don't want you to disturb the scab, but just try and clean him up some. Did past vets give you advice on keeping it clean,??
https://www.amazon.com/SWEETER-HEATE...NsaWNrPXRydWU=
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Old 08-31-2019, 11:33 PM
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Re: My GCC mutilates himself :(

Sorry to hear about this! This is terrible! It seems like his neck itches very much due to a bacterial infection (that can be treated with antibiotics), or parasites. Once the itching disappears he will stop scratching his neck. Also, if he is molting it can be itching and stressful for him. An avian doctor can prescribe a medication for that problem. Also, frequent warm baths, and a diet that includes fresh fruit (not too frequent) and vegetables. I always gave Grinie, my old GCC, KAYTEE Fori-Diet Pro Health for Conure & Lovebird Food and never had problems with her skin. Another possible problem could be food allergy.
Hope you find what is bothering him. Let us know his progress.
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Re: My GCC mutilates himself :(

Some sources in the internet said that "Yogurt" is not good for Green Cheek Conures and in general birds do not produce lactose (the enzyme necessary to help digest lactose). Essentially, birds are highly lactose intolerant. I use almond milk when preparing mashed potatoes for my conure.

At this point, I suggest go back to the basic and feed him only pellets or bird food with green vegetables. Cut down on fruits (3 times a wk). Give fresh water. Change the bowl at least twice a day. Birds would eat even if they are sick (this is by instinct). In the wild, birds fake to be healthy to avoid other predator birds to kill them.

Laurasea is right, he looks very sick and needs immediate medical attention. Any veterinarian could get some blood samples and find out what is his problem.

I feel so sorry for him and you. I know how it feels to see our "baby" suffering. Keep up us posted of his condition.
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