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Old 11-13-2012, 04:39 PM
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What sex of Eclectus should I buy?

Hi all I am novice when it comes to having a bird as a pet and I am thinking to go towards getting an Eclectus. I have a breeder in mind and she recommends a female eclectus but I can't decide which I should really buy. The breeder seems really nice, answers every time I call. She tells me that the way she hand raises the birds and socialises her birds won't bite, show any signs of hormonal characteristics like agressions. She says her female birds are really nice and won't show the agression that typical female birds show. Now I know she is also trying to make a sale and may have more female eclectuses and may wont to get them off her hands. But she has great reviews on her site. What do you recommend? Thanks all in advance.
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Old 11-13-2012, 07:40 PM
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Re: What sex of Eclectus should I buy?

P.s. the parrot will be housed in my hotel lobby so there is some type of activity during the day. I live on the premises also with my family
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Old 11-14-2012, 12:35 AM
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Re: What sex of Eclectus should I buy?

It seems ridiculous to me that she's claiming that her birds won't show hormonal behaviour. It would be like claiming that a human baby won't go through puberty... everyone goes through it, some just go through it worse which cannot be foreseen when the baby is, well, a baby. I'd say she's probably lovely, but there is definitely an agenda there. My breeder sells more males than females, so yours is probably the same.
I have read that there is quite a lot of evidence to the claim the opposite genders bond better. So if you're a guy, then the female bird may bond better than a male, but there's nothing seriously concrete, just many observations.
Also, some people say that females do better in busy environments than males, so a hotel lobby may suit a female better, but again, it's all about how you raise him/her.
The females are also prone to being bossier, as they have to take care of a clutch and show the male who's boss so he doesn't endanger her young.
Again, just things I've been reading, which isn't to say that your choice in gender will fulfill the stereotyped role.
Back to the point, your breeder has an agenda. She may well raise the babies wonderfully, but cannot nurture un-experienced hormonal behaviour out of a baby bird.
Honestly, I'd pick the gender depending on which one you think is prettier and then just put the effort in raising it to be the bird you want.
Get more people's opinions though.
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Re: What sex of Eclectus should I buy?

Okay, i have to agree, to say that her birds will never be hormonal or bite is a lie.. she is vouching that by this time you will love the bird, so it wont matter to you. Every single bird with a beak is going to bite at some point.
I have heard that female eclectus are better in a busy environment, but people here will tell you that some of their males are great in busy environments, so I guess it comes down to the bird personally.
I think males are a little more easy going where as females can be bossy and dominating, but I've never had a problem with Audrey.
It is really up to you, I chose a female because I loved the colouring, but I love the male colouring too, so I'd probably end up getting a male down the line lol!
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Re: What sex of Eclectus should I buy?

BOTH of our ekkies loves me equally!!!!! The one that actually bonds with me more is actually my male JoJo. I had to retrain him after bringing him home as it seem like he was abused at one point. My pair does NOT like commotion! As I've read that they don't tolerate busy area very well. JoJo who NEVER screams will start screaming and carrying on when there's strangers in the house, it upsets him very much. Gracie tolerates a bit better but she really don't care for it. Out of all the ekkies I've seen doesn't really tolerate busy area well like the stuffs I've read. I would think twice before placing one in that situation. As the stress will bring further problems such as plucking!
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Re: What sex of Eclectus should I buy?

Thanks for all your responses. I have a silly question: what is considered a busy environement to a bird? It's not as crowded say as a Dr's office, as our guests come throughout the day but not in heaps (usuallY). The cage would be around the corner of the entrance so someone really has to lok for it. i'm going to include apicture so you would see, if you need additional please let me know. Thanks!
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Re: What sex of Eclectus should I buy?

thats the front door, then you'll see the popcorn machine, when you turn that corner thats where the cagewill be ( by a window) but closed window.
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Re: What sex of Eclectus should I buy?

I agree with Mikey, Ekkies don't do well in busy invironments like hotel lobbies. I would consider an amazon they seem to thrive with the extra attention and comotion.
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Re: What sex of Eclectus should I buy?

Mitz, your breeder is making some ridiculous claims. Every parrot can and likely will bite, whether it is due to our mistake, or something that scares them. No one can claim that their parrot will not bite. All birds will go through periods of exhibiting hormonal behavior, and in my opinion, the females can be more difficult to deal with in that regard. If I were to recommend to someone, I would say go with a male ekkie. They are just a lot more easygoing altogether. But as stated above, eclectus parrots don't do well in busy environments, they like a quiet and peaceful space.
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Re: What sex of Eclectus should I buy?

If you were to socialise the bird well, introducing it to lots of new people when it's young, letting them feed him/her and help in training (such as teaching your bird to wave and then teaching new people the cue, so the bird can interact with new people without having to be handled) then you're setting the bird up for the best chance in busy surrounds.
Especially with Eclectus though, if you were just to put the bird in the lobby with a constantly changing environment that it hadn't been weaned into, then you'd have a very stressed bird... much more so than an Amazon, as stated above.
If you had a quiet/separate office the bird could come in and out of while it's young and acclimatising/being socialised, then that would be ideal, rather than it being forced into the deep-end. Lots of rewards when meeting new people and using positive reinforcement techniques and I can't see any reason why an Eclectus wouldn't suit your lobby... it would just be a bit more work than a more outgoing species, and you'd need to respect that potential quality to the bird.
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