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eclectus male vs female

I have decided on soon becoming owned by an eclectus!

Now I have to decide on male or female.
While researching I have seen a few stories of females being more aggressive then males. However I have found just as many defending the females.
So eclectus owners - what are the male/female differences?
Do the female aggression stories hold truth? are males just as prone to it? what are other common behavioral differences? I have met a few eckies on the way, and they are clearly all individuals - but what are the general differences and positives/negatives of each gender?

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Old 07-15-2013, 07:16 AM
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Re: eclectus male vs female

I can only speak of what I have observed and Ecckies are not very common where I live. I have only seen one female at a local flea market. The owner had her on display at the pet shop there. She wasn't for sale. The owner told me she was quite aggressive and as I walked close to her, she lunged at me with beak wide open and had this look like she wanted to rip my arm off and beat me with it.

Now male ecckies, I own a male that was three when I adopted him. He is a very sweet bird, but, once he gets around women, he gets aggressive with me. Any other time I can handle him and do just about anything with him and he's fine. But with that said, he has still bit my left ear twice clean through to the point you could see day light. Both times he was either on my arm or shoulder and women were involved.
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Old 07-16-2013, 12:38 PM
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Re: eclectus male vs female

I can only speak first hand for my male Ekkie. Chico is very laid back and not hormonal at all. I have had him for 19 months and he has rarely tried to bite me. On occasion he will attack my feet but that seems to be common with parrots and can be managed easily. I am able to do what ever I want with Chico. I can roll him on his back and toss him into the air. He doesn't like showers so I have resorted to flipping him over and spreading his wings one at a time to give his under carriage a good soaking. Even while grinding down his beak with the Dremel I am very confident that he will not bite. There is a lot of trust both ways.

From what I have read the females seem more hormonal and can be aggressive/defensive.
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Re: eclectus male vs female

Might as well get a male. The internet is clogged with stories on how awful female eclectus are -- and most are written by people who have never owned one.

I'm tired of trying to convince people that both sexes make good pets.
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Re: eclectus male vs female

Females are the dominant gender in this species so, yes, they tend to be more aggressive than males. They also tend to lay eggs every year as they end up eating too much protein in captivity and they have an unusually long breeding season in the wild. I've had both a female and a male and they were both aggressive which is not something that bothers me much as I routinely take in the aggressive birds that other people and rescues would not but what does is that ekkies don't display before they bite and they never give a warning nip as other species would, they go for the kill every time. It was this female ekkie the only bird that killed another one in my birdroom. I've had from macaws to budgies living together with amazons, greys, conures, tiels, lovebirds, sennies, etc and none of them ever killed another bird - except for Elsa (SI) and she didn't even bat an eyelash doing it. The lovebird simply perched next to her, she stretched out her neck to reach it and killed it. Period.
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Old 07-16-2013, 03:09 PM
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Re: eclectus male vs female

BOTH make great pets. It's the environment, care and effort that really brings out the outcome of the bird. Sure, females are more dominant in nature. They are more prone to territorial and nesting behaviors than a male. However, I have a female and I love her to death. If I could turn back time and choose all over again, I would pick a female. She has never bitten anyone "for the kill". It's all about reading their body language. Sure there are good days and bad, but she has yet to break my skin and I've only been warning bitten a few times since a whole year that I've had her. No matter if you get a male or a female, if you don't respect their wants and needs, an aggressive bird is the outcome (and I say that with ANY bird species and ALL gender).

With that said, Nalani is smart, affectionate and a great talker (when she wants to be ). She's very independent and enjoys sitting on her perch and talk with my family. Her favorite trick is to get flipped upside down and give "spider man kisses". She does pick and choose who she likes and I have struggled a bit with socializing her. Her cage aggression was an issue for a bit, but after respecting her space we formed a whole new level of trust. She now trusts me more than ever and I have very minimal issues with her territorial problems. But she is still young at only 1 year of age so that may still be too soon to say.

I just wanted to share that not all females are the little "red devils". The internet is filled with quick and harsh judgement about the female eclectus, but it's all peoples experience with their bird in their environment. Each bird is raised differently and every bird has different personalities. The best advice is to go and handle both yourself. Meet the birds in person and find what best fits you. Maybe you'll bond with a male or even a female. All in all, if you give the love and respect they deserve (no matter what gender), they will love and respect you back.

PS: I don't mean to step on anyone's toes, I just wanted to share my experience. I work at shelters and rescues to know that too many animals are judged by their breed, species, gender and looks while overlooking their potential to make great pets.
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Re: eclectus male vs female

I have a female and she is a sweetheart. I've heard stories of biting aggressive females AND males. I think as with any bird species it just depends on the individual bird.

When I decided to get an Eclectus I didn't look for either gender. I just asked a lot of questions about each birds personality and I ended up with a female. And I couldn't be happier with my choice.

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Re: eclectus male vs female

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Females are the dominant gender in this species so, yes, they tend to be more aggressive than males. They also tend to lay eggs every year as they end up eating too much protein in captivity and they have an unusually long breeding season in the wild. I've had both a female and a male and they were both aggressive which is not something that bothers me much as I routinely take in the aggressive birds that other people and rescues would not but what does is that ekkies don't display before they bite and they never give a warning nip as other species would, they go for the kill every time. It was this female ekkie the only bird that killed another one in my birdroom. I've had from macaws to budgies living together with amazons, greys, conures, tiels, lovebirds, sennies, etc and none of them ever killed another bird - except for Elsa (SI) and she didn't even bat an eyelash doing it. The lovebird simply perched next to her, she stretched out her neck to reach it and killed it. Period.
I'm very sorry that you lost your lovebird. I always warn people to NEVER allow little birds near big birds and Eclectus are much larger than lovebirds.
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Re: eclectus male vs female

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Females are the dominant gender in this species so, yes, they tend to be more aggressive than males. They also tend to lay eggs every year as they end up eating too much protein in captivity and they have an unusually long breeding season in the wild. I've had both a female and a male and they were both aggressive which is not something that bothers me much as I routinely take in the aggressive birds that other people and rescues would not but what does is that ekkies don't display before they bite and they never give a warning nip as other species would, they go for the kill every time. It was this female ekkie the only bird that killed another one in my birdroom. I've had from macaws to budgies living together with amazons, greys, conures, tiels, lovebirds, sennies, etc and none of them ever killed another bird - except for Elsa (SI) and she didn't even bat an eyelash doing it. The lovebird simply perched next to her, she stretched out her neck to reach it and killed it. Period.
I'm very sorry that you lost your lovebird. I always warn people to NEVER allow little birds near big birds and Eclectus are much larger than lovebirds.

Actually, as long as there is plenty of room and perches and everybody is able-bodied, there is no problem. When this happened, I had over 240 birds living together for 6 years and the only incident was this one. People talk about cockatoos grabbing little birds out of the air and killing them but all my birds shared their feeding plates and it was the cutest thing to see the big umbrellas lifting their feet to carefully step over little budgies eating next to them. Different species of birds share common territories in the wild so the 'big bird attacks little bird' thing is more a captivity problem than a size problem and I have found that cages is what makes things bad.
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Re: eclectus male vs female

Quote: Originally Posted by moni.k View Post
BOTH make great pets. It's the environment, care and effort that really brings out the outcome of the bird. Sure, females are more dominant in nature. They are more prone to territorial and nesting behaviors than a male. However, I have a female and I love her to death. If I could turn back time and choose all over again, I would pick a female. She has never bitten anyone "for the kill". It's all about reading their body language. Sure there are good days and bad, but she has yet to break my skin and I've only been warning bitten a few times since a whole year that I've had her. No matter if you get a male or a female, if you don't respect their wants and needs, an aggressive bird is the outcome (and I say that with ANY bird species and ALL gender).

With that said, Nalani is smart, affectionate and a great talker (when she wants to be ). She's very independent and enjoys sitting on her perch and talk with my family. Her favorite trick is to get flipped upside down and give "spider man kisses". She does pick and choose who she likes and I have struggled a bit with socializing her. Her cage aggression was an issue for a bit, but after respecting her space we formed a whole new level of trust. She now trusts me more than ever and I have very minimal issues with her territorial problems. But she is still young at only 1 year of age so that may still be too soon to say.

I just wanted to share that not all females are the little "red devils". The internet is filled with quick and harsh judgement about the female eclectus, but it's all peoples experience with their bird in their environment. Each bird is raised differently and every bird has different personalities. The best advice is to go and handle both yourself. Meet the birds in person and find what best fits you. Maybe you'll bond with a male or even a female. All in all, if you give the love and respect they deserve (no matter what gender), they will love and respect you back.

PS: I don't mean to step on anyone's toes, I just wanted to share my experience. I work at shelters and rescues to know that too many animals are judged by their breed, species, gender and looks while overlooking their potential to make great pets.

I love your enthusiasm and your staunch defense of your bird but, with all due respect, a one year old ekkie is not even sexually mature, yet. Parrots change A LOT as they get older...
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