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Old 06-05-2014, 11:19 AM
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Re: First time Eckie owner, need advice.

I know what you mean. It's because of all the contradictory info on ekkies out there that I always take the time to write out examples of what I feed Bixby. I remember how difficult it was to get reliable eclectus info before discovering this forum!
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Old 06-05-2014, 12:23 PM
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Re: First time Eckie owner, need advice.

Yes I agree the beak looks a little long. It can be diet related but also not having appropriate stuff to chew. Eclectus need toys made of softer woods if you give them something thats geared more toward amazons they just don't tear into it as well.
Also you should have at least one cement type perch, hung higher in the cage that he will rub his beak on. I would never suggest pliers ouch!!
If you check out the food section of the forum I just posted an example of what I use to make chop for my ekkies. It's under "Have some chop!!" about 4 post down from the top.

Are you home most of the day? The reason I ask is I do take out the Volkman's seed and TOP's pellets in the morning to give them the morning fresh foods, then they get another helping of soft fresh foods later in the afternoon. The seed and pellets go back into the cage around the dinner time 6 pm or so and stay in until the morning when it starts all over. If I wasn't home with them all day I probably wouldn't completely remove the dry stuff but leave much smaller portions along with the soft foods, the reason being is eclectus can pack away the food. I really don't know where mine put it all but for their size they really do eat an amazing amount of food each day.
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Re: First time Eckie owner, need advice.

Max definitely didn't have appropriate things to chew (and he will be going to the avian vet in the very near future to get everything checked). So softer wood toys would work fine for him to chew on? And looking at soft wood toys on the internet, I see that a lot of them are dyed different colors. Would that be OK for him or should I avoid them?

I've been out these past few days asking around about ekkies, picking up things I know I'll need (new stainless steel bowls and some natural wooden perches), hopefully securing a source to order seed, and finding out where all the horrible advice his previous owner received came from (PetSmart...not smart at all regarding these birdies). I am normally home all day, though. So if I know I'm leaving for the day, it'd be OK to leave a small portion of seed and fresh food? He's not eating that much currently, I believe that's because he's still adjusting to the change.

I saw the post about the chop! Very handy list of food, I know I'll need to peruse it more. So it's just put through the food processor and mixed up?

I'm looking at
this cage this cage
for him, its dimensions are 24"x22"x37 1/2". Would that be fine for him? I'm trying to go as big as I can, but I'm unfortunately on a budget.
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Old 06-05-2014, 11:43 PM
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Re: First time Eckie owner, need advice.

Woods that are dyed naturally are fine -- like the colored toys you'd see at a bird shop. My ekkie really, really, really loves to chew pine cones. If you have any trees around to gather from, you can throw them in boiling water to sanitize them and then dry them off in the sun.

You might also try checking Craigslist for cages -- you can get real steals that way. I got mine (which is enormous) for.. I can't remember if it was $150 or $200, but cheap either way.. from someone who was moving and had to get rid of it quick.


You can also save a lot of money by making your own perches! Here's a site that tells you how to make them and lists the safe woods you can use.
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Old 06-06-2014, 12:22 AM
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Re: First time Eckie owner, need advice.

What a pretty boy you have there!

Also just throwing ideas out there for picky eaters... Sweet potato mashed (warm) & mixed with fresh fruits and veggies seems to really help get them interested in the "fresh food" idea. Plus with the mash foods stick together so they try a bit of everything.

Also cutting food into small pieces works well too if it's too big they tend to eat around them, or toss them out. That's been my personal experience ha ha!

Chop is a great idea I just did my first batch recently and it's portioned out frozen with about 2 months worth. I also use Volkmans soak and simmer served with the chop. Toss is pomegranate arils and various berries. Stir up and berries and everything's is thoroughly coated in chop

I just got a new cage and I wish I could just give my old one to a good home! If you're close just come get it!

Here is a picture from about 2 years ago of sweet potato mash with various fresh foods mixed in. This is how I started my Howie when I got him at around 4-5 months old. He will eat anything now


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Re: First time Eckie owner, need advice.

Craigslist was actually one of the first places I went in searching for a bigger cage. Unfortunately, all I found in my area were smaller ones more suited for a smaller parrot or a parakeet. I'm going to keep trying, though. He's fine where he is for now, getting him to the avian vet and getting a good source to order proper ekkie seed is currently a higher priority. His cage right now isn't much smaller than the dimensions of the one I linked, though it's legitimately one of the heaviest things I've ever carried and isn't on wheels. I wish I was close enough to look at your old cage, but it'd be quite the trip for me!

Thank you for the link for safe wood! I'm definitely sure I can make use of that, and the perches shown being made in the page linked on it weren't any different than the ones I purchased yesterday, so they shouldn't be hard to make. For once, I'm happy I live in a pretty heavily forested area.

I was told by Max's former owner that he didn't show much interest in toys, but considering that much of everything else he told me wasn't viable at all...yeah. I don't have a reliable bird-centric store nearby, but I've found that some of the pet stores in my area do sell toys that are claimed to be dyed with bird-safe dyes, plus there's always the internet.

He showed a bit more interest in the fresh food last night, enough to make three trips to the bowl, beak through it several times, and try to bite me when he thought I was taking the bowl away. He had romaine lettuce, bell peppers (green, red, and yellow), two grapes, plum, tomato, cucumber, and a little cooked white rice (since I currently don't have brown...more for the shopping list!). Sweet potato mash is a great idea, I'll need to get some sweet potatoes and try that. I also thought of warming frozen veggies to mix with fresh veggies and cooked brown rice, which would give him an even greater variety of goodies than I'd be able to reliably get fresh. I've read the warnings regarding certain foods, but I haven't seen anything directly forbidding frozen, so would it be OK to do?
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Old 06-06-2014, 10:50 AM
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Re: First time Eckie owner, need advice.

He might legitimately not be interested in toys if they weren't something he was really introduced to before. A lot of birds need to be taught how to play with toys so that they can entertain themselves, so don't give up if he doesn't seem into them at first! Once you two are comfortable with each other you can play with them with him to get him started

I would agree to let him get some out of the cage some time soonish. When ekkies are scared they tend to get really still. If he isn't minding moving around his cage when you're watching, I'm betting he isn't too scared for interaction.
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Old 06-06-2014, 11:02 AM
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Re: First time Eckie owner, need advice.

If you can't get fresh then frozen is fine, if I use peas or corn its usually frozen Only thing is I always check the ingredients list on the back of the bag it should only list the vegetables in the bag no salt, or other additives.

**You can also sprinkle some cinnamon in his food mix.

**I could be wrong on this and anyone can correct me, but I've seen that tomato isn't good for Eclectus? I think I have seen conflicting evidence so I just stayed away from it.

I am so excited for you, and happy you are really interested about finding out how to care for these beautiful birds!
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Old 06-06-2014, 01:21 PM
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Re: First time Eckie owner, need advice.

I do give mine tomatoes but in very limited amounts. One thing I am a stickler on is if I give mine fresh or frozen corn it is always organic. Corn is almost all gmo now unless it is organic. Also I think it is important to pay attention to the heavily sprayed food such as berries and peppers and feed those only in organic.

That cage is not really wide enough imo unless he is going to spend most of the day out of it which is great if you can. My cages are not huge 30 wide which is not big but they are out almost the whole day. The room they are in is set up for them to fly around, there are boings and hoops from the ceiling plus huge java trees. If they want to go into the cage to eat or drink the doors are open. They often will poke around in someone elses cage rather than their own, nosey little buggers!

I don't know if you have been to "The Land Of Vos" website but there is a wealth of ekkie information there.
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Re: First time Eckie owner, need advice.

I definitely agree with Laura about the cage. (Well, I agree with all that she said, actually, but I'm focusing on the cage at the moment. Lol!) The absolute minimum width for an eclectus cage should probably be around 36". Minimum. Unless, as Laura already pointed out, your boy will be out all day.
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