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Old 01-26-2015, 12:39 PM
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Venus has been with us for a week now and WOW, what a doll! She is VERY quiet, she's screamed three times since we've had her and over the last few days she's been making low sounds like a goose honking. She even honks at me when I talk to her. She's stepping up on command 90% of the time, she has bit me hard three times as well but each day she is more comfortable and relaxed. Today I left her cage open while I was working on my pc and she came out and I got to see her curiosity start taking over. She's going to be a curious stinker for sure.

Now eating is proving to be a challenge. I have no bird seed, Buddy has not eaten seed meals since he joined us last March and Venus has not either. I have raw peanuts, pecans, and a home made trail mix that has sunflower seeds, cashews, almonds, and dried cranberries, all these are treat items. Buddy is my green pig, he will eat anything but this week, Venus is being picky. She likes room temperature or warm food and she comes out and eats with Husband or I. Over the last three days, I chopped up yellow pepper, zucchini and kale. Buddy ate his, Venus tossed hers out and she hasn't eaten well so this afternoon after she tossed her veggies again, I heated up brown rice with purple hull peas and corn. She ate the corn and left the rice which makes me happy because I don't think she should eat rice every day. Any recommendations on veggies to get her going? Corn looks like a winner as well as the purple hull peas, she didn't care for kiwi, apple, zucchini, brussel sprout, kale, spinach, arugula, potato (cooked), yellow pepper, or red pepper. Later today I have cucumber ready to see how she does with that.
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Old 01-27-2015, 06:04 AM
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Re: One Week Down

You do realize that raw peanuts, especially those supplied in open, non-sealed containers are one of the worst sources of aflatoxins (aspergillus spores), don'r you?

For peanuts, buy the ones sold for human consumption & in sealed bags, unless you are shelling & roasting your own, to kill any potential mold spores.....

Since the spores are around us naturally, it becomes a question of the concentration of spores we and our birds are exposed to and whether we or our birds have weakened immune systems.....

Good luck, just thought I'd mention that since you were feeding raw peanuts and in peanut country ! ! !
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Old 01-27-2015, 10:31 AM
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Thanks Weco and thanks for asking and yes I am. I feed Buddy and Venus human grade food only, organic and fresh preferred. I held off on peanuts until a few months back when I found bagged, raw peanuts my father has eaten for years. I keep them in a sealed jar with rice in the bottom to soak up moisture. Buddy and Venus eat better than Husband and I for sure. The peanuts are a treat item only, given not every day.
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Old 01-27-2015, 12:25 PM
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Re: One Week Down

All you really have to do is go to the food section here or the Land of Vos website there are tons of recipes, and list of foods.

I love talking about eclectus and love helping people provide the best care but I really feel since there is so much great info already typed and out there concerning diet, that are only a simple search away that it is better for folks to read and do the research on their own then have it typed out for each new person. The two sources I always give are the two I feel the most confident with recommending because I know the advise is sound and the recipes are great.

I do not feed any peanuts I just don't trust them they are not even actually a nut they are in the bean family. Just my 2 cents on that.
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Old 01-27-2015, 08:03 PM
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Re: One Week Down

My original question was "Any recommendations on veggies to get her going?" because this is a new challenge.

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Old 01-27-2015, 08:13 PM
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Re: One Week Down

Wow! Okay seems like you took offense and that was not intended. It is just redundant to type out list after list of the same information when the info is already there.
The thing is with an eclectus that has not been fed high fresh foods it may take you offering the same food many times and her refusing it at first to realize it's food and it's yummy. If it's offered once or twice and is refused that doesn't mean she will never accept it. Chop it smaller and mix it with things you know she loves. Corn is not a great choice even organic, many eclectus can develop reactions to corn so it is better to give that in moderation. Leafy dark green are often over looked and are very needed as well as red and orange veggies. Sweet potatoes are great but you have to try a few ways sometimes to find out what they like mine prefer it raw rather than cooked and sliced in smaller size cuts. They do really love acorn squash baked with some cinnamon and added to their brown rice or quinoa. It is really just a matter of trying many different things especially with a bird that maybe hasn't always been on the best diet.
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Re: One Week Down

I am far from an expert, but I would also recommend trying finely cut. I've been making a chop mixture lately, and find the fine (processing) mean my boy and girl get a bit of everything, they don't really have a choice as it all sticks together, but they also seem to like it more. If I try cutting with a knife into small pieces, I find Pebbles just enjoys picking it up, and throwing it out of the bowl until the only thing left is her favourite food.

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Re: One Week Down

Quote: Originally Posted by Taw5106 View Post
My original question was "Any recommendations on veggies to get her going?" because this is a new challenge.

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This thread has been quite informative - so far, so what would the purpose be to now delete it?

I see no offense in any of the replies, unless I missed something somewhere?

It can always be challenging to get a new bird to try and eat new things, particularly healthy foods. As suggested, try cutting either thicker, thinner, finer, or even into fun shapes. Perhaps Venus would prefer new foods on a kabob rather than in a food dish? There are so many different ways to go about it...let me find a few very helpful links:

Converting Parrots to a Healthier Diet - Tips

Bird Safe Fresh Foods & Toxic Food Lists + Sprouts

Chop Day Recipe

Making chop...wine helps!

And the old saying applies here: If at first you don't succeed...try try again.
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Re: One Week Down

As always, great job on the links, Wendy!!! Here's one more from maybe 2 days or so ago. Eclectus Diet?

Yes, eclectus can be quite picky about their foods. Sometimes persistence is the key. They may come to develop a love for a particular food after rejecting it several times beforehand.

And camo makes a great point about finely chopping some of their foods. Because there are some things that they just HAVE to eat. For instance, my Bixby will literally and cheerfully throw any pieces of diced carrot at me should I be so foolish and brazen as to place them in his bowl. But carrots are a MUST, as they are so rich in beta carotene! Now I could try boiling the carrots, since some birds prefer that softer texture with some foods, but cooking does leach away some of the nutritional value. Fine for some other foods, not so much for carrots. (Yes, maybe I'm just indulging in overkill, here, but I love those freaking birds!)

My solution? I grate the carrots. I grate them into tiny slivers that he would be hard-pressed to separate from anything else, much less toss anywhere. Then, in the next phase of my diabolical plan, I add pomegranates, grapes, blueberries or cherries to the mix! The carrot slivers adhere to the beloved fruits and voila! He has a balanced diet in spite of himself! (I only mention Bixby because Maya is like an avian vacuum cleaner! She eats almost everything!)

I do something similar with broccoli for its vitamin A and calcium content, and dandelion. Sometimes you just have to trick them into eating it. Since corn and purple hull peas seem to work for her, use those as your agents to get slivers of more of the good stuff past the stern gatekeeper of her palette.

Hope that helps!
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Re: One Week Down

Well this morning I had a reveal meaning I saw something that clicked everything into place. Venus has been a tough cookie to get her to eat, I've even resorted to eating her food with her to show her how good it is. She'd eat some but not very much, less than a tablespoon. This morning I heated up fresh corn, peas and edamame, no salt (I love salt on edamame). I have the parrot pellets in a plastic, air tight box and when I got Buddy last March I had bought a Kaytee brand parrot pellet and seed mix. After reading about healthy pellets and Kaytee is no good, I stopped feeding him the Kaytee moving him to 100% veggie and fruit. The bag was in the box.

Well I went in the office with breakfast, Venus comes out and she eats some of the corn, peas and edamame. She ate a bit and ran off to investigate, I get on my laptop and I hear crunching. The plastic box was open and she was in it eating the Kaytee feed! The pet store told me she was fed fresh veg and some pellets but she went to town on the Kaytee food so i know can confirm she has probably been feed nothing but a sad seed and poor pellet diet. The Kaytee food is in the trash bin, I mixed some Harrison pellets in her breakfast, she won't eat the Harrison pellets but is eating the corn and edamame.

So as others have said, she hasn't been fed right. This will be a journey longer than I expected.

Label, I apologize, I did take offense because I had given her a variety of fresh foods and she rejected them. I know she likes corn and rice now so I figure I'll be eating lots of veggies to show her how wonderful they are. Thank you for you feedback.
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