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Old 04-01-2015, 01:51 PM
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So..you think you want an Eclectus.

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I decided to spend some time today really giving the honest truth about eclectus both good and not so good. Some of these will be generalizations there are ALWAYS exceptions to the rules.

I will also discuss some girl vs boy points. Typically males make better pets if you are wanting more of a hands on pet. Girls are wonderful in my book but they are somewhat different, not better or worse imo just different. While both male and females tend to seek out petting affection on their terms this is more true with the gals, again this is mostly correct, there are exceptions. An eclectus will usually politely push your finger away or give other signs and sounds that they have had enough petting. Ignore this at your own risk. They have scalpels for beaks and when you get bit it will not only be a pressure bite but unless your hands are super callused and you wash them in battery acid it will also CUT! All that said eclectus love spending time with their people flock and enjoy hanging out and talking while being able to see you. They do respond well to training, they are highly food motivated and excellent at talking if you put the time in.

They are not allopreeners so they don't necessarily appreciate having their feathers messed with as other species do. In fact I once saw a boy in really bad feather condition, like the feathers were worn thin. He was on an excellent diet, sunshine, plenty of baths but his owners pet him all the time and encouraged others to as well. The rubbing and oils from human hands had actually ended up being the culprit to his feather condition not to mention once he hit sexual maturity, all that touching had him masturbating and regurgitating on everything and everyone.

Both sexes can be somewhat cage territorial though it can be worked through. I don't really consider this a negative just something to be aware of and always stick step-up train as well as hands.

Noise, this is one of those that is not a set yes or no. Babies make the most god awful noise, it is constant, it is loud and there is no stopping it until they are completely weaned. No one should hand feed a baby unless they are very experienced but when it comes to eclectus this is even more true they are one of the most difficult. They don't have a super strong feeding response which makes it easier to aspirate them if you are not experienced and they like the formula warmer than most species. However too warm you can burn the crop too cold and they will refuse to eat or end up with crop stasis (food hardens in the crop). After weaning they stop that particular baby noise. Some can be what I would consider quiet but others that I have seen and heard are not.. so would I say absolutely they are quiet...no way. Noise is an individual thing very dependent on both the bird and the environment and what the bird is used to. Stress out an eclectus and they stand perfectly still while screaming their heads off! Their alarm call can peel the paint off the walls.

Speaking of walls....eclectus are messy, not as messy as toucans and lories but very, very close. They rub their soft fresh foods every where on the bars of their cage, on their play stands, on the perches, on the edges of their bowls and fling with true abandon. You will be scrubbing things like beet juice, pomegranates, blueberries, carrots and all manner of staining foods from everything! It must be cleaned up daily, if they eat old scraped off food it is a great way for your fid to get a bacterial/fungal infection. Not to mention the high likelihood of unwanted outside critters being attracted if it's not kept clean.

Toy selection is also a bit different with them. You can't go into your local Petsmart and grab a medium size toy and call it good. Typically when someone tells me their eclectus doesn't play or chew wood I find they are not providing the correct toys. Eclectus love to chew but the toys that are designed for macaws or amazons are cut too thick and the wood is mostly harder woods. Eclectus appreciate softer woods like balsam and pine cut thinner than you would for some of the other species. Shredding stuff is great and gals like that especially but those softer woods must be provided so that the beak can be kept in good shape. An over grown beak is usually caused by not providing correct chewing toys or feeding an incorrect diet resulting in liver issues.

The two major things in my book are baths and food. Mist often at least 4 times a week whether they act like they love it or not it is very important! Don't let the bird decide when it will bathe.

NUMBER ONE...FOOD!
The correct diet must be fed, not sometimes, not when your schedule allows, not when you feel like it..always! Many, many eclectus lived short miserable lives when they were first imported due to incorrect diet. Even now with the information out there birds suffer with toe tapping and wing flapping (imagine a muscle tick that won't go away, won't let you sleep, it can lead to neurotic feather plucking and even flesh mutilation). Over grown beaks, shot livers, kaput kidneys all because someone jumped into eclectus ownership before doing research or thought they could handle it and a few months or years in they don't want to hassle with that kind of extensive food prep and it is..both expensive and time consuming. Though there are ways to make it easier such as making larger batches of chop (enough to last a month or so) birdie breads, sprouting.

I am not going to go into the full list of what should or shouldn't be fed it is already here in many threads as well as The Land of Vos. Think long and hard about whether this is something you can and will do for many, many years. When I was in the hospital I had my husband go to Whole Foods and buy their fresh organic cut stuff from the salad bar, it cost us a fortune to buy it that way for convenience but I wasn't able to make chop and hubby was working and visiting me in the hospital. The birds still HAD to have their fresh imo no matter what is going on in my life. Hope this helps someone make the right decisions on whether or not an eclectus is the right species for you.

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Re: So..you think you want an Eclectus.

AWESOME, Laura!!! Very well said!
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Old 04-04-2015, 08:53 PM
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Re: So..you think you want an Eclectus.

Excellent post, Laura! Chock full of info for potential new ekkie parronts that could prove invaluable if read before taking the plunge... and even afterward as a reference.

Here are two good ekkie diet threads, just to add my two cents worth. More than two threads, actually, when you consider the links provided within the linked threads: Eclectus Diet?
Eclectus Diet - confused

And a link to my favorite ekkie diet site: Eclectusparrots.net
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Re: So..you think you want an Eclectus.

Thank you Laura. This was very illuminating as I am currently debating between a blue crown conure and a male ekkie. It didn't really help my decision making, but definitely put the ekkies in a new light.

I would follow up your post with the question: is there any significant difference in temperaments/behavior among the different subspecies? And how would you rate them on ultimate controllability/tameability over time? I know I can control a conure through its different life stages, easy squeezy, but are eclectus similarly easy to control?
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Re: So..you think you want an Eclectus.

Quote: Originally Posted by chris-md View Post
Thank you Laura. This was very illuminating as I am currently debating between a blue crown conure and a male ekkie. It didn't really help my decision making, but definitely put the ekkies in a new light.

I would follow up your post with the question: is there any significant difference in temperaments/behavior among the different subspecies? And how would you rate them on ultimate controllability/tameability over time? I know I can control a conure through its different life stages, easy squeezy, but are eclectus similarly easy to control?
I do believe that Solomon Island are the sweetest and have more reliable easy going personalities. Red Sided are also great but in my opinion less so than the SI. The most issues come with the Vos sub species for whatever reason Vos seem to be more sensitive to food and more prone to plucking and behavior issues.

I don't know that I really would be able to compare conures and eclectus. They are very different. IMO conures depending on species can be more opinionated and head strong as a generalization.
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Old 04-05-2015, 02:08 PM
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Re: So..you think you want an Eclectus.

Thank you Laura! I always take away something of value from all your posts. I can add with reference to Oliver, he is a very sweet, for the most part, even tempered guy. Of course he's still a baby at 2 and a half with more maturing to come. As for preparing food, I find it easy as I eat almost the same as him so it's not really extra work...and as you suggested, I batch cook and freeze to make life easier at night when I come home from work. If I had to pick one annoyance it would be this new shrill scream he picked up a few weeks ago out of nowhere. Usually he talks and coos and makes adorable sounds but once to twice a day he is not so adorable vocally. And as for petting, if he had his druthers he'd be on my arm 24/7 and loves when I pet him...which I do sparingly due to the oils...and his maturing...

Thank you, thank you...for always providing a wealth of information! Lisa
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Re: So..you think you want an Eclectus.

Hi Laura, good post. I had my Eclectus for 7 years and the only issue I had was the mess. They certainly like a food fight. The constant cleaning gets tiresome after a few years. A plastic sheet hung on the wall makes the cleaning a whole lot easier as well as protecting the paint!
My two were both quiet, rarely screeched, maybe one a week if that and then only because they wanted to be with me which sometimes couldn't happen. Neither liked to be touched though they loved to be with me.
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Thank you for taking the time to share your knowledge, Laura! Very informative.
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Thank you.

Eckies are one of those birds that just require a lot of species specific information.
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Re: So..you think you want an Eclectus.

[quote=labell;478741]
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I don't know that I really would be able to compare conures and eclectus. They are very different. IMO conures depending on species can be more opinionated and head strong as a generalization.
Apples to apples.

Conures really are best compared to macaws... (Shrink a macaw, you get a conure.)

Actually, I don't think I know of a single bird out there I would compare to an Eckie. They kind of have their own distinct personality quirks. If anything I'd compare them to a CAG. (Flock bird, handled on its own terms, not especially big on the touchie feelie stuff, both can be very smart and comical, both tend to be talkers.)

But even that doesn't really fit. There are too many subtle differences...

Eckies are just Eckies. Their personalities are as different from other birds as their feathers.
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