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Old 02-08-2018, 07:43 AM
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My 15yo male...Marvy... is super hormonal.... humps anything he can make work... any suggestions on how to tame the hormones?

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Old 02-08-2018, 07:47 AM
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When our amazon was going through his "hump everything" period of life, we ignored him every time he did a mating display or started doing the humping dance. We'd literally turn our backs and most of the time left the room so it was clear while he wasn't in trouble, we weren't interested or encouraging of his...ahem...activities. It took a long time but consistency paid off in the end. He hasn't done his humping thing in a long time, years and while he still gets hormonal every year, he gets slightly aggressive not amorous, which IMO is easier to deal with.
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Old 02-08-2018, 09:44 AM
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My thoughts on my little "rooster"...
Ever since the Rickeybird hit sexual maturity at about 3-4 years of age, I've had to manage his hormones! If kept on too steady a long day, and too much light, he stayed "in the mood" (aggressive, even louder than usual, pleasuring himself on my neck ) year round. If I keep him on a natural light schedule... up with dawn, down with dusk, year around... THEN he's only a little monster rooster from July to September). He has his own room, so I can do that easily.
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Old 02-10-2018, 12:24 PM
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Hi Marvysmom,

Can you put a timeframe around this? Is this recent behavior? How long as it been going on? Has it been consistent or off and on?
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Old 02-10-2018, 07:36 PM
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Hi Marvysmom,

Can you put a timeframe around this? Is this recent behavior? How long as it been going on? Has it been consistent or off and on?
He's always been a bit of a horn dog.... regurgitation and all.... but, is say in the last year he's been really bad....I put a cat bed on my desk for my kitties and had to take it off... he was just too annoying!

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Old 02-10-2018, 08:06 PM
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Is it unrelenting, or is it coming in fits and waves with breaks in between?

What can you tell us about his food? What’s his meals like? What snacks do you feel

Also make sure you aren’t petting him anywhere other than the head. Ekkies don’t have a hormonal season like most other parrots. So something in the care of the bird is triggering hormonal behavior. Be it the wrong food, petting incorrectly, among other things.
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Old 02-11-2018, 05:16 PM
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Is it unrelenting, or is it coming in fits and waves with breaks in between?

What can you tell us about his food? Whatís his meals like? What snacks do you feel

Also make sure you arenít petting him anywhere other than the head. Ekkies donít have a hormonal season like most other parrots. So something in the care of the bird is triggering hormonal behavior. Be it the wrong food, petting incorrectly, among other things.
A couple of family members do pet on his back... I'll instruct not to... how about chest? I feed him Volkomen Eclctus feed and he gets fresh food daily which consists of hearts of romain lettuce, shredded carrots, purple cabbage, apples, grapes, a bit of egg.... his snacks are some of what we are eating..... bread of sandwich, a chip, chicken, pasta.... also his snack bowl always has pistachios, cashew, almond and walnuts.... the occasional honey nut cereal to......

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Old 02-11-2018, 05:20 PM
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Is it unrelenting, or is it coming in fits and waves with breaks in between?

What can you tell us about his food? Whatís his meals like? What snacks do you feel

Also make sure you arenít petting him anywhere other than the head. Ekkies donít have a hormonal season like most other parrots. So something in the care of the bird is triggering hormonal behavior. Be it the wrong food, petting incorrectly, among other things.
A couple of family members do pet on his back... I'll instruct not to... how about chest? I feed him Volkomen Eclctus feed and he gets fresh food daily which consists of hearts of romain lettuce, shredded carrots, purple cabbage, apples, grapes, a bit of egg.... his snacks are some of what we are eating..... bread of sandwich, a chip, chicken, pasta.... also his snack bowl always has pistachios, cashew, almond and walnuts.... the occasional honey nut cereal to......

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This is my poor guy right now!

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Old 02-11-2018, 09:26 PM
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Aw what a handsome boy!! He’s a barberer my boy is too unfortunately.

I see a huge problem right there with the food.

1) seed diet: Bad! Don’t you dare feed this garbage to this poor guy. THROW THIS OUT NOW!! If you need a dry mix, like me, look into Higgins fruit to veg mix. Or go with a natural pellet like Goldenfeast Goldn’obles I (brown Cheerios looking pellet) or TOPs. Both have natural ingredients (quinoa, Brown rice, spinach, etc) without preservatives or supplements.

2) ties into 1: the all nut snack bowl always filled needs to go,immediately.

You’ve got him on a very fatty diet, seeds and nuts. I see the fresh diet you mention, kudos! But that itself needs some real tweaking, but based on your description fatty foods feature prominently in the plurality of his daily intake.

This is not good, and is likely a huge root of your problem. Ekkies highly specialized dietary needs requires a low fat diet.

High fat diet is often correlated to increased hormonal activity.

Also, ekkies diet is high fiber diet. You don’t have nearly enough fiber there. Where are the grains? Brown rice, barely, quinoa, all really important. Add some tropical fruit in there also, it is a staple of their diet in the wild. Romaine lettuce - lettuce in general - is ok for a snack but for ekkies has no redeeming virtue so really shouldn’t be part of their diet. Work on different sources of vitamin a, the other key nutrient in their dietary needs. Bell peppers are a big source for this. As are sweet potatoes.

My big takeaway here is that you need to get a better handle on Marvys diet. Once you do that you should see some big overall improvements in his general behavior. Major kudos for trying! You just need to do a bit more research into the key needs.

Parker gets frozen chop, here’s one example of a typical chop recipe I’ll cobble together for him:

Brown rice
Bell peppers
kale - leaves separated from stems and included separately as separate ingredients - Parker loves celery so will eat the kale stems like celery
Peas
Green beans
Carrots
Hemp seeds
Spaghetti squash
Corn
Chia seeds

A stroll down the frozen vegetable aisle alone will do wonders for Marvy!

When this is thawed I’ll often top dress with any combination of shaved almond, red palm oil, coconut oil, flax seeds, or assorted herbs (oregano, thyme, rosemary, mint, you name it).

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Re: Hormonal male

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Aw what a handsome boy!! Heís a barberer my boy is too unfortunately.

I see a huge problem right there with the food.

1) seed diet: Bad! Donít you dare feed this garbage to this poor guy. THROW THIS OUT NOW!! If you need a dry mix, like me, look into Higgins fruit to veg mix. Or go with a natural pellet like Goldenfeast Goldníobles I (brown Cheerios looking pellet) or TOPs. Both have natural ingredients (quinoa, Brown rice, spinach, etc) without preservatives or supplements.

2) ties into 1: the all nut snack bowl always filled needs to go,immediately.

Youíve got him on a very fatty diet, seeds and nuts. I see the fresh diet you mention, kudos! But that itself needs some real tweaking, but based on your description fatty foods feature prominently in the plurality of his daily intake.

This is not good, and is likely a huge root of your problem. Ekkies highly specialized dietary needs requires a low fat diet.

High fat diet is often correlated to increased hormonal activity.

Also, ekkies diet is high fiber diet. You donít have nearly enough fiber there. Where are the grains? Brown rice, barely, quinoa, all really important. Add some tropical fruit in there also, it is a staple of their diet in the wild. Romaine lettuce - lettuce in general - is ok for a snack but for ekkies has no redeeming virtue so really shouldnít be part of their diet. Work on different sources of vitamin a, the other key nutrient in their dietary needs. Bell peppers are a big source for this. As are sweet potatoes.

My big takeaway here is that you need to get a better handle on Marvys diet. Once you do that you should see some big overall improvements in his general behavior. Major kudos for trying! You just need to do a bit more research into the key needs.

Parker gets frozen chop, hereís one example of a typical chop recipe Iíll cobble together for him:

Brown rice
Bell peppers
kale - leaves separated from stems and included separately as separate ingredients - Parker loves celery so will eat the kale stems like celery
Peas
Green beans
Carrots
Hemp seeds
Spaghetti squash
Corn
Chia seeds

A stroll down the frozen vegetable aisle alone will do wonders for Marvy!

When this is thawed Iíll often top dress with any combination of shaved almond, red palm oil, coconut oil, flax seeds, or assorted herbs (oregano, thyme, rosemary, mint, you name it).
Holy cow....my poor baby! He should take to the cheerio looking one since he loves cheerios...lol! Where can i find other recipes, Or do you have others....I have heard birds get tired of the same thing all the time....I'll get these going right away. Have any tips to teach him how to play? When we adopted him, didn't play or chew on anything.... have been trying, but he just acts like the toy is a monster that's going to eat him...lol. Will he stop plucking his feathers with the new diet? He normally is so pretty!
Thanks so much fort your help.... you have MD, are you a avian doctor?

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