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Old 01-11-2021, 09:03 AM
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Ok, this might be a long one so please be patient with me!

At the start of December I went to visit my mum (finally, thanks lockdown!!) anyway sheís a crazy animal lady - at the time had 5 dogs and 5 parrots. One of which she was fostering, a female eclectus, who had been rescued from a home that had starved her, left her covered for long periods, and when the bird bit she would be thrown to the floor - hit with an object - then thrown back in her cage - hosed down and left to freeze!!!
So while I was visiting her I sat at the eclectus cage and just spoke to her gently, she came right up to the bars - at this point my mum warned me not to get too close as she was aggressive and a biter, she was actually surprised that I was able to go near the cage in the first place as the parrot generally attacked the bars if anyone came within a foot of it!! Anyway, by the end of my visit the eclectus was letting me stroke her beak - to say my mum was shocked was an understatement!!
During the next week my mum reported back to me that the eclectus would spend all her time at the back of her cage and looked really depressed! I visited again and AS SOON as she heard my voice she came running to the front of the cage and started calling for me (my mum had never known her to make this noice before) she was so excited to see me! Again she let me stroke her beak and I just sat talking to her. Hoping that she would now cheer up I said my goodbyes- again she was depressed 😔
So, the following week I brought her home with me!
Itís now 6 weeks later and sheís come so far....doing things no one expected- talking, beak strokes, kisses (but only through bars) happy beak clicks and grinding. I have read and researched about everything- complete diet overhaul, new cage and toys coming. But...and this is why Iím here - she does seem to turn from beak strokes and kisses to attack and bite very suddenly and with no warning! Iím still learning when it comes to body language etc but I think Iím doing quite well - I read her eyes mostly!
Sheís also never been trained to do anything!!! Iíve managed to train her to go back in her cage without the need for towels (as she had been in the past) by placing treats on a perch on the door and 1 or two in her bowl on the inside. Sheís stepped up on my arm a couple of times but then just bites my arm or runs up towards my face wanting to bite, I know it seems Iím pushing too quickly but Iím taking it at her pace - I only allowed her to step up because I was talking to her and she looked like that is what she wanted (again reading her body language)
I have tried finding information on the rehabilitation and training of abused eclectus parrots but just canít seem to find much! So any advice you can offer would be amazing!!! Eg clicker training? What treats are best for training? ANY advice on best way to stop her biting, LITERALLY ANY and all advice is welcome!!! I just want to provide her the best life possible!

Sorry it was long but I wanted to provide her background as well as why an amateur like me ended up owning her!
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Old 01-11-2021, 09:35 AM
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Re: Rescued Female Eclectus

Hi Stacey. No need to apologise for a long post. All information is relevant in offering help. You've definitely been chosen! My first Ekkie, Patches did the same with me. Very attentive at first visit, second visit I was warned he was hormonal, or in a bad mood and bit another potential adopter. As soon as he saw me, stepped right up and hung out with me for several hours.

I'll start by offering a link that should be helpful: Tips for Bonding and Building Trust

Aside from that, something to consider, female Ekkies can be very cage protective. It's kind of in their DNA, because of how they do things in the wild. Training time away from the cage in a more neutral area might be very helpful for you. Also, Ekkies are not known for being snugglers and generally hate having their "doo" messed up. So, head petting, if she'll allow, front to back only.

You're doing great so far from what I see, and you have the right attitude. Continue to move at her place, and take it from there. It takes time, sometimes a lot of time, but totally worth the effort!
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Re: Rescued Female Eclectus

What a touching story. What a thrill she chose you, so wonderful you can have her.

Thank you

It's perfectly normal for her to be all over the place right now. To want to be with you but then to become fearful and attack. Even to test to see if she can trust you, or if you will let her down. It sounds like you guysnare really doing well, despite little issues and rages.

I will link sailboats I love Amazon thread, full of great advice, and works for all parrots Eclectus included as information. Yes there are some specific Amazon things, but he has taken in many broken parrots. I Love Amazons - An On-Going Journey!


I will link my thread Rescuing Penny, it shows our journey from an abused shut down parrot to a parrot who finally can make choices fir herself, gained confidence sbd learned to fly. Probably not as much actual good advice as sailboats. Rescueing Penny

And I have a thread in stress reduction in parrots that is helpful, even if you didn't hsv3 a stressed parrots. You can Google Pamela Clark she is a parrot behavior specialist, with lots if great article
https://lafeber.com/pet-birds/stress...ot-companions/
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Re: Rescued Female Eclectus

Welcome!

There is a fair number of Eclectus owners on Parrotforum and it is worth your time to read back into the Threads in the Eclectus Subforum. IMHO, it is best to sit near her in her cage or in that neutral place and read those Threads softly, out loud in a comforting place. The goal is simply, you learn and your girl becomes ever more comfortable with you.

I'm an Amazon Snob, but know that Diet is very important for an Eclectus' health and wellbeing. To my understanding, their Diet is heavy on the Veggies side of the spectrum.

Avian Medical Care: If you have not already taken her for a New Parrot Avian Physical, you really need to. The visit should include a Hands on Physical examination, her weight, a gram stain (poop smear) and a full spectrum blood test. This will offer you a clear starting point for future visits. Avian Clinic visits for a Healthy Parrot should be once every fifteen months, all the way down to monthly if you are chancing a medical issue.

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Old 01-11-2021, 11:21 AM
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Re: Rescued Female Eclectus

Thank you guys so much for the advice so far!! Itís excellent! Iíll definitely be doing all the reading youíve suggested!

Iíve already done a complete overhaul of her diet - she has been fed on a diet of pellets and seeds her entire life - but sheís now on a diet of fresh veg (60-70%) soaked lentils, fruit and a small amount of seed. Which is what I read was the best balance for eclectus parrots! My mum visited recently and said that she looks so much healthier and bright eyed, plus she loves it!! I always take a list of Ďyesí foods to the shops with me.

We have a more suitable cage coming in the next couple of days which has a play top, currently she spends 70% of her outside time on the top of her cage, I donít think she was really let out much before as her flying skills are terrible! So I also bought her some foot toys, puzzle toys and a foraging ball, along with new in cage perches, toys, bowls etc. I am also waiting on a window perch as when she does build the courage to fly she heads for the window and loves to look outside! Although I found that out the hard way - when she flew onto my blinds and perched on them (while also chewing on them )

Iíve had to make do with most of the things she came with as she came home with me too close to Xmas and I didnít have the money to buy her everything new then!

Her cage is placed by my seat on the couch, and thereís usually one member of the family in there most of the time (homeschooling means my daughter is here too) and weíre always chatting away to her! Sheís even learned a few words - ďdolly, love you, hi baby, hello and kissesĒ and lots of the sounds I make to her such as kissing noises. We also find sheís happier in the day when thereís background music on, weíve even had little dances together


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Re: Rescued Female Eclectus

Wow! Impressive progress already! Clearly, she's been starving for attention, and is eating it up.

Another important part of the diet is grains. Their digestive tract is longer than other parrots, and very efficient at extracting nutrients, so things that are "enriched" should be avoided. Too much of a good thing, you know? Also, I lean heavier on the orange/red veggies for lots of vitamin A, and my boy doesn't much care for many of the green things. They're always offered though. Sometimes, they just decide something is acceptable when it wasn't in the past.

Don't forget pictures! Ekkies are gorgeous birdies! (not that I'm biased or anything )

Also wanted to mention, your instincts on reading their eyes is spot on. Their body language is WAAAAY more subtle than amazons, for instance, but those eyes say it all if you pay attention. My experience with them is that they often prefer to sit facing you, so they can study you. To me, it's like they're looking at YOU, right down to your soul. They see WHO you are, rather than WHAT you look like.

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Ooh yes! I forgot to mention them - yeah she has a little brown rice/Cous cous/other grain mixed in. I generally do a Ďchopí of all her veggies as I worked out quickly that she hates chunks.....those ended up all over my floor and walls! But since doing a chop she digs in (and I can sneak in some of the things that she isnít keen on but are super good for her) her absolute favourite is chillis - I put a couple extra in this week so she now has ďdeath breathĒ and weíre taking a break on the kisses


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Re: Rescued Female Eclectus

She eats better than we do!!

Iíve gone mainly by instinct- even from the first time I met her.

Iíve always been good with animals, not really had much to do with parrots though - Iíve visited with my mum obviously, but she only got her first last year, and Iíve been with her to the bird rescue/shop whoís owners macaw hates everyone except her....but took a liking to me I never expected to have a parrot of my own though!


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Re: Rescued Female Eclectus

Excellent! Funny thing, my Ekkie won't touch finely chopped stuff at all. Definitely gets splattered on the wall if I do that! He has to have chunks, or certain things whole, like those chilies. If I cut them, they're immediately tossed. Made the mistake once of forgetting the chilies were there and gave him the kisses he demands... Wow, that was bad, smeared all over my lips, and then I rubbed my eye before it hit. Not good lol!
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