Is This Breville Convection Oven Safe

acen

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Will be getting my Ekkie in a few week and want to be sure the house is free of potential toxins. WE DO NOT USE A MICROWAVE and

I currently Own the Breville Convection Oven model BOV800XL - Breville Smart Toaster Oven at Abt

I have read that some of these come with NON STICK interior, and/or PTFE but it might that is the newer models.. Still was wondering if anyone uses this particular model

will call breville as well , but i dont really trust that they will care enough to be honest. We may have to dump it anyway to be on the safe side.
 
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I looked at the manual for your appliance and it mentions a porcelain enamel finish and it mentions nonstick surfaces, but it does not mention Teflon, PTFEs or PFOAs, but that doesn't mean it does or does not contain them.


Here's a reply I posted to a similar question, several months back:


There is no directory/listing of products and/or manufacturers that do not use the various coatings toxic to birds, so we are left to do our own research, however, those coatings will no longer be available on cookware and/or cooking utensils/appliances after next year...Teflon is scheduled to be off the market by 2015 (except for industrial-non-food applications), but I have no idea what might happen to the licensed coatings not peddled by DuPont.....

Polytetrafluoroethylene - PTFE
perfluorooctanoic acid - PFOA
perfluorinated chemicals - PFCs

Are the primary coatings and/or coating ingredients we need to be concerned with (at this time, at least).

A good place to start familiarizing yourself with all these chemical terms & acronyms is an EPA web page, though it's not a complete listing of everything we have to contend with.....

Glossary of Terms | PFOA and Fluorinated Telomers | OPPT | OPPTS| US EPA

As to finding a safe appliance, you will either need to e-mail or use the postal service, addressing you inquiry to the company's customer and/or technical service department and inquire if there are any compounds used in, on or in the manufacture of the product that you are interested in, that are harmful, toxic and/or deadly to companion birds when those appliances, cookware and/or utensils are heated to temperatures greater than 100 degrees Fahrenheit? If you do not draft your inquiry in specific terms similar to that, they will probably just respond with some scripted adware.....

Asking salespeople is as good as asking the proverbial brick wall.....any question about safety of that nature has to be sent to the manufacturer.....

Even if you are lucky enough to find something safe that suits your needs, you should always burn-in the appliance/cookware with the bird(s) removed from the house for 2-5 days, because first use will normally even cause most humans to have problems, because the oils, sprays & lubricants used in manufacturer will be burning off.....

One of the safest things you can do is to install or have installed, an over the stove/counter ventilation hood (THAT VENTS TO THE OUTSIDE) and use your toasters, griddles, tortilla makers, waffle irons, etc., etc. under that vent hood (WITH THE EXHAUST RUNNING).....



Depending on the configuration of your kitchen/home, it may be that you could safely use your convection oven if you can move your bird(s) to another room during use and vent the kitchen/oven to the outside during use.....if you end up using a window fan, you want to draw any fumes/odors from the oven directly outdoors, not through another room as that might disperse the fumes/odors elsewhere in the house.....

Good luck.....
 
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Good information.. I did call Breville and they simply said YES it does have a non stick coating!! containing PTFE but it will not release harmful toxic unless heated above 700 degrees. The oven's max heat is 500 degrees. But im not going to take any chances on it.
We use this oven often so i will be in the market for a cleaner countertop Oven.
So far this is what i found.

COLORFUL CANARY - Organic And Natural Living: Teflon-free toaster oven

Much of the information is vague and is usually addressing Pan's NOT OVENS, which is a sneaking appliance in my opinion especially for a new parrot owner.

Can anyone tell me what if any countertop over they use.???
 

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Good information.. I did call Breville and they simply said YES it does have a non stick coating!! containing PTFE but it will not release harmful toxic unless heated above 700 degrees. The oven's max heat is 500 degrees. But im not going to take any chances on it.
We use this oven often so i will be in the market for a cleaner countertop Oven.

700 degrees is what DuPont used to proffer, but in the past 8 years, some products have been found to offgas at around 500 degrees and some improperly prepared surfaces were coated & found to offgas at less than 500 degrees, but the catch there is that a consumer has no way to determine if surfaces to be coated have been properly or improperly prepared and any bird losses may or may not be proved/attributed to the coating.....
 
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Ok So here is what Waring Says Regarding there Ovens.

I asked:
"Im looking for a countertop oven that DOES NOT CONTAIN
PTFE/POFT or TEFLON or any other NON stick coatings, I have 2yr old that is very sensitive.. I was told that your company makes such a product is this true and if so which product would be good for my family?"

Waring Response:
Our Household Toaster Ovens are:
The interior is “AL” steel.
The interior of the Toaster Ovens have aluminized steel.
The wire racks are steel wire with chrome plating.

Our Household CO1500B Oven are:
There is no coating, all walls are 430 Stainless Steel.
The racks are cold rolled nickel plated.
Tray is aluminized steel with enamel coating.
The Rotisserie parts are made of Steel chrome-plated.


Melissa Goldstone
Waring Parts & Service
Torrington, CT 06790
(800) 269 6640

From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Wednesday, September 04, 2013 7:48 PM
To: Melissa Goldstone
Subject: General Customer Service or Product Inquiry
 

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That Waring product sounds like a short list keeper.....

The 430 designation is a grade of SS & 430 is the grade used on most SS appliances.....

Like the reply that Waring sent you, no company would send you a written communication, E-mail or regular letter, claiming their product did not contain the toxic materials you asked about, if the product did contain any of those materials because that would leave the company open to a 'slam dunk' liability suit against them.....

If you like the looks & controls of the Waring product, sounds like a good buy.....

Good luck.....
 
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ok thanx Weco, Are WE sure that Aluminized Steel is OK??

If so i will share this find other bird owner
 

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Well, I can say that in 30+ years of being involved with companion birds, I have never heard of any problems with aluminum and birds.....but I cannot speak with certainty because it is possible that there could be some unknown article floating around alluding to some type of danger, but my database doesn't have anything about aluminum toxicity.....

Now, aluminized steel, which is steel dipped in molten aluminum is cheap replacement for stainless steel, but since, in your case, it was used for a tray, it was probably because the tray may slide into some sort of framed tray rack that might be a problem for a stainless steel tray.....

Aluminized steel has a better/greater thermal conductivity than stainless steel and it has a much greater thermal expansion stability.....meaning that SS trays that need to slide in & out of rack frames might expand too much & jamb when heated.....if the face that there is not any testimony certain about the safety of aluminized steel, find a product that doesn't use aluminized steel trays/pans.....

Good luck.....
 

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