Help!! Please!!! Help!!!

BirdyMomma

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Ohhh, my god.

The vet called, and Wingnut has PBFD.

Please help me. Please.
 

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Oh my god, I am so sorry. I don't even know what to say, but that my thoughts and prayers are with you. What all did the vet say?
 

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Oh no I'm so sorry! I don't know much about it, but that it can lay dormant for years or even for the duration of a birds life. It's my sincerest hope that he lives a normal happy life. He's got you in his corner, so he's going to be alright no matter what. I'm so sorry :(
 
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She's saying a lot of things, and a lot are somewhat contradictory.

She expressed her upset, and concern, but would not directly answer the following questions;
Is he going to die?
Is his life expectancy going to be shortened?
What do I need to do now?
What do I need to do to prevent my other birds from getting it? (Loki tested Neg)

I am in shock I guess. I'm still at work. Trying to get out of here and get home. I want to die. I don't know what to do.

Should I separate him from the others? (she said that the damage would already have been done).

Help. Please. I feel completely powerless to help him.
 
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I want to die.
 

Kalidasa

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If she's not answering your questions directly over the phone, I would suggest you go in there in person and find out all she knows about it. Any questions that pop in your head, write down, and have a list for her. This is not a time for evasiveness or being vague on her part.
 

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I cannot even imagine what you are going through, and to be dealing with this at work had got to make it even harder. You are going to do everything he needs, I have no doubt of that.
Thank God that Loki tested negative for it!
How old is Wingnut?
Is he currently at the vet's?
Please tell me you don't have to drive home from work.
 

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I am so sorry. I wish I could help:(. I hope your vet gives you the answers you need and I will be sending positive thoughts your way for you and your sweet baby.
 

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:( I'm so sorry. Wish I could say something helpful but I have no experience with PBFD. I second the suggestion of making a list of questions and then trying to go over them with the vet.
 

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I am so sorry to hear that. Hope your vet can give you some answers. I was just reading about the disease and some articles are saying that it can lay dormant is older birds without any dramas.

Hopefully Wingnut will be fine. Sending hugs and thoughts your way.
 
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He is just a baby. 5 months old.
 

Nakiska

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(((((((((BirdyMomma)))))))) Here is your virtual hug from me.

I am sooo sorry to hear this terrible news!

Please keep us posted and you and ((((((((Wingnut)))))))) are in my prayers.

Toni
 
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We love our birds so much. We do everything we can to make their lives happy.... I can't believe this.
I'm afraid to go home. I'm afraid to go home and see him, because I know he is going to die :(
My other birds are also at risk. Do i seperate them? We have been a family since day one. He is just a baby. This is just horrible.
I should not have birds.
 

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You are exactly the kind of person who should have birds! You are so loving and give them a wonderful life..this is sooo not your fault!
 

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Oh geesh...you are making me cry here...I'm so devastated for you.

My opinion in answer to your questions...yes...if he were mine, I would separate him...for my own peace of mind. It might be to late or it very well might not be...I wouldn't be willing to take any chances since the vets diagnosis. I would treat him as I would any bird I'd have to quarantine.

Here is a quick article you can read Psittacine Beak and Feather Disease (PBFD)

And yes...you should have birds! I know this is most painful right now, and right now, the best you can do is to keep on loving them...all of them.

Wingnuts fate hasn't been decided yet....don't give up on him for he hasn't given up on himself yet. Be strong and think positive.

It's the best you have right now.

All our love,

Toni
 

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OH...and just for good measure...here's another big virtual bear hug for you and wingnut

((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((BirdyMomma-Wingnut))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))
 

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oh no, i'm so sorry to hear! dont give up hope, he can live a normal life, if you give him that chance. i personally would separate him as best you can, but the disease is very hard to get rid of in the environment. i have my fingers crossed for you and i will keep him and your family in my thoughts!
 

Nakiska

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From that article I sent you the link to....

"Some birds infected with the virus, test positive, but never show clinical signs. Other birds which test positive may develop an immune response sufficient enough to fight off the infection and test negative after 30-90 days. Therefore, it is recommended to re-test all PBFD positive birds 60-90 days after the initial testing was completed. If the second sample remains positive, the bird should be considered permanently infected and can be expected to show clinical symptoms of the disease."

See....this is NOT an absolute death sentence...think positive, think positive, think positive...I'm witnessed some truly unexplainable amazing things in my life thus far...it's amazing what the power of LOVE can do. :)

Toni
 
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Military Macaw (Wingnut)
Citron Crested Cockatoo
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My other problem is space. We have almost NO space. They all live in the same room, where we keep them nice and warm, and together.
Our dogs roam the house, except for our room. He would be alone in the other end of the house :(
I'm on my way home now. He also tested positive for Borna Virus.....
 

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From the article:
"Some birds infected with the virus, test positive, but never show clinical signs. Other birds which test positive may develop an immune response sufficient enough to fight off the infection and test negative after 30-90 days. Therefore, it is recommended to re-test all PBFD positive birds 60-90 days after the initial testing was completed. If the second sample remains positive, the bird should be considered permanently infected and can be expected to show clinical symptoms of the disease."
 

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