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Boyd75 · Mar 21, 2014

Our water heater goes out, and has to be relit.
sometimes it puts out quit a strong odor. is this toxic to the bird?

also pet fumes, our dogs pee on our couches. we havent bought new couches yet, gross i know, but will that smell bother the bird?

I also have roommates that use the no stick ppans, can I just shut the door when they cook? how fatal are these fumes?

how do i check to find out if the cookware is safe in case i need to make it vanish mysteriously?

Boyd75 · Mar 21, 2014

its natural gas, our stove is a natural gas stove as well. will this kill my bird?

DanR · Mar 21, 2014

The urine odor shouldn't be an issue but as a dog trainer, why on earth are you allowing your dogs to urinate on your couch?? You should address that immediately with a professional, that is a serious behavior you need to attend to.

goalerjones · Mar 21, 2014

Boyd75 said:
Our water heater goes out, and has to be relit.
sometimes it puts out quit a strong odor. is this toxic to the bird?

also pet fumes, our dogs pee on our couches. we havent bought new couches yet, gross i know, but will that smell bother the bird?

I also have roommates that use the no stick ppans, can I just shut the door when they cook? how fatal are these fumes?

how do i check to find out if the cookware is safe in case i need to make it vanish mysteriously?

1)Gas fumes are toxic to everything, especially birds.

2)Urine odor, while this shows a lack of discipline for you and your dogs, are not toxic.

3) Teflon pans are toxic. The problem with them being used, there is no real good way to confine the fumes. And they are bad for people too. They can kill birds in a matter of hours.

4) making the pans vanish is a matter of getting suitable replacements. And of course, who they belong to, and if it's your house or not.

Boyd75 · Mar 21, 2014

what is a good brand of cookware for me to replace my roommates cookware with, upon her permission.
the dogs sneak into the living room when noone is around, so noone sees it, until the leave a puddle. they get a spankin, sent outside, but do it again. i think its the two males battling for dominance.
and with the natural gas, how sensative would the bird be to it?
Can i open the window when i light it, and that be sufficient, or ... can i legally hold my landlord responsible to replace the water heater?

Betrisher · Mar 21, 2014

Teflon pan fumes is a huge issue. There have been reports of birds dying very quickly from these fumes. I'd put your bird in the most remote room you can from the kitchen. It would be a real kindness if your room mates would agree to use a different kind of pan.

Gas fumes aren't exactly good for your bird either and you would want him to be as far from those as possible.

Dog pee? Won't hurt the bird, but the Ick Factor is pretty high. Give your dog firm boundaries and take him outside more often.

Kiwibird · Mar 21, 2014

goalerjones said:
1)Gas fumes are toxic to everything, especially birds.

2)Urine odor, while this shows a lack of discipline for you and your dogs, are not toxic.

3) Teflon pans are toxic. The problem with them being used, there is no real good way to confine the fumes. And they are bad for people too.

4) making the pans vanish is a matter of getting suitable replacements. And of course, who they belong to, and if it's your house or not.

Well put.

Just adding-

I really have no words for permitting dogs to urinate on your couch repeatedly:11:. Why are these indoor dogs?

You really need someone to come fix that water heater. Bird aside, if you can smell a strong gas odor, thats a potentially serious issue. I know pilot lights do go out sometimes, but if it's a consistent thing thats a problem you need to address for your own safety and every other person and living thing in your home.

I agree the teflon should "disappear" and be replaced with safe, long lasting stainless or cast iron.

Boyd75 · Mar 21, 2014

The dogs are inside dogs because they are babies haha. but they stay outside on good weather days, they just wont sleep out there without outing or whining. plus id feel bad to make them sleep outside when they have been allowed to sleep in the bed their whole life. "/ wasnt thinking i would grow out of wanting to cuddle them when they were young, and now im just putting too much consideration into their emotions i guess. haha

but any stainless steel or cast iron cookware is safe?

Boyd75 · Mar 21, 2014

also with the natural gas....
when we use the stove, and the oven, it's inevitably burning the natural gas. . will this be a huge issue?
You guys are saying it is not good.
But will it kill the bird, their is a kitchen window, that i can use when cooking, and a door that i can shut between the kitchen and the bird.
im ebaying cookware right now

MikeyTN · Mar 21, 2014

I want to mention that dog urine CAN hurt your bird! With high content of ammonia it can and will give your bird respiratory infection and such. It's bad for you too! You should eliminate the ammonia by spraying some vinegar/water solutions to rid it. Just remember gas is bad for you too as they're toxic so always make sure the pilot lights are not out. But they should normally shut off if the flame is out. As long as it's the newer ones?

Boyd75 · Mar 21, 2014

vinegar water, awesome! =D I'm going to have my land lord replace the water heater.

is there any solution to make them not want to pee on soakable surfaces?

Boyd75 · Mar 21, 2014

what about aluminum cookware??

Freespin · Mar 22, 2014

Stainless steel cookware would be best.

As for the dogs I have found it a hard issue to eliminate if you are not actually catching the dogs in the act but it is doable. You need to get rid of the smell as soon as it happens firstly, the only time my dog has ever gone to pee inside was when he could smell where another dog had been. Are your dog's fixed? Get rid of their balls if not!! That should help. Take them outside regularly and praise them for going outside. Don't let them be in the room unless they are supervised! I would suggest crating them if you are unable to supervise them. Introduce the crate properly don't just shove them in and wonder why they hate it haha. Only the odd very dirty dog will toilet in a crate unless you leave them in there far too long. Then you can take them out, toilet them and then let them back inside knowing they have no excuse to pee inside.

Boyd75 · Mar 22, 2014

they are not chopped. ive heard dogs personality gets more dull after chopped?

getwozzy · Mar 22, 2014

Water heater- you need to address this with your landlord and have a professional come out and inspect it; sounds like there's an issue with it!!

Dog pee- IMHO you need to get rid of those couches...as long as they can smell it, they will continue to pee on it. And michael's right- too much pee = ammonia which is not good for anyone to be breathing in!! And inside "babies" or not, that's disgusting. If they're not able to be supervised while indoors, I second the idea of crate training them or put them outside in a dog run while nobody's home. You also need to catch them in the act- punishing them afterwards (or when you find the evidence!) is pointless because they have no idea what they've done wrong!

Nonstick pans- they can kill a bird even if it's in the other room with closed doors....if the air in your home is being circulated ("central air") then the fumes from the kitchen could circulate to the room your bird is in. Stainless steel cookware is best.

Btw- I had my male husky neutered at 6 months old and his personality is far from dull...

Freespin · Mar 22, 2014

What a myth. My boy is chopped and my true one in a million dog. He is far more focused and driven than his entire brother (I do agility with him) and has a tonne of personality. One of my good friend owns the sire and is a animal trainer and my dog is his pick of the litter now (of 11 pups) .

MikeyTN · Mar 22, 2014

Both of my boys got chopped when they were older, they act like they've always acted.

Boyd75 · Mar 22, 2014

thanks guys! =D

Boyd75 · Mar 22, 2014

ah last thing, preseasoned cast irons?? are those okay?

getwozzy · Mar 22, 2014

Boyd75 said:
ah last thing, preseasoned cast irons?? are those okay?

Preseasoned cast iron pans are safe.

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