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Old 10-01-2017, 07:57 PM
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Re: PTFE's, PFOA's, Silicon, and Ceramic Cook/Bakeware

After reading the original post completely (with my glasses on) I realize the food contamination issue was already covered.

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Re: PTFE's, PFOA's, Silicon, and Ceramic Cook/Bakeware

Hi Everyone,

Brilliant post thank you!

Having replaced my saucepans for stainless steel a few years ago (pre-parrot), Santa is this year going to get me a couple of frying pan- in the January sales because my Santa is bargain-conscious - so I'm doing my research.

I've found a set of frying pans that are "anodized aluminium" and are non-stick. I'm confused though because it says they have... "A triple layer of long-lasting Teflon non-stick provides superb food release and makes clean-up effortless. Itís dishwasher safe, and free from the chemical nasties of BPA, PFOA and PTFE". Which has me completely confused!!!! I has searching for PTFE and PFOA free and they came up.

Any opinions? Just another addition to this fairly confusing topic.

I'm not going to get them, I'm going to get something ceramic, but just interested in what you all make of it.
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Re: PTFE's, PFOA's, Silicon, and Ceramic Cook/Bakeware

Quote: Originally Posted by Jottlebot View Post
Hi Everyone,

Brilliant post thank you!

Having replaced my saucepans for stainless steel a few years ago (pre-parrot), Santa is this year going to get me a couple of frying pan- in the January sales because my Santa is bargain-conscious - so I'm doing my research.

I've found a set of frying pans that are "anodized aluminium" and are non-stick. I'm confused though because it says they have... "A triple layer of long-lasting Teflon non-stick provides superb food release and makes clean-up effortless. Itís dishwasher safe, and free from the chemical nasties of BPA, PFOA and PTFE". Which has me completely confused!!!! I has searching for PTFE and PFOA free and they came up.

Any opinions? Just another addition to this fairly confusing topic.

I'm not going to get them, I'm going to get something ceramic, but just interested in what you all make of it.
Ceramic: Thickness of the substructure and the Ceramic coating is the key to long life. You will find them heavy, moderate to slow to come to temperature, but hold their temperature well across the cooking surface. They are expensive! So, if you come across an inexpensive set, keep walking!
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Re: PTFE's, PFOA's, Silicon, and Ceramic Cook/Bakeware

Sorry to revive a slightly old thread (though stickied), but how do you handle apartment living? Where I live, apartments are built with more.... ventilation; some flats are built to have openings for air and windows are frequently left open. If your next-door neighbour cooks with non-stick pans and whatnot, wouldn't that affect your parrot as well? How do you guys handle that kind of situation? Do you talk to your neighbours to find out what kitchenware they use? Or do you just try to keep your bird away in an isolated room?
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Re: PTFE's, PFOA's, Silicon, and Ceramic Cook/Bakeware

I know this is an old thread but this group seems very knowledgeable about cookware. I have done a lot of research myself and was about ready to buy ceramic-glazed stoneware until I came across this thread, where some risks with this type of cookware are noted. I am hoping to find something I can cook meats in as high as 425 degrees fahrenheit. I found this on the Sur La Table website. It looks like a good value and also has a lid, which I thought might help keep the fumes in. I am also looking at enamel coated cast iron as a possibility. I would appreciate any feedback that any of you have. Thank you

https://www.surlatable.com/product/P...+with+Lid+4+qt.
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Re: PTFE's, PFOA's, Silicon, and Ceramic Cook/Bakeware

I'm not sure I have the answer to this since there are probably many different types of apartment setups and ventilation systems. I can tell you, though, that I have had no problems living in a small apartment with neighbors and keeping the windows open or closed. I am cognizant of people grilling below me and will close the windows if that is going on. I am on the top floor, but if I were lower down, I might also consider asking when the building sprays for pests and keep them closed then as well.
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Re: PTFE's, PFOA's, Silicon, and Ceramic Cook/Bakeware

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I know this is an old thread but this group seems very knowledgeable about cookware. I have done a lot of research myself and was about ready to buy ceramic-glazed stoneware until I came across this thread, where some risks with this type of cookware are noted. I am hoping to find something I can cook meats in as high as 425 degrees fahrenheit. I found this on the Sur La Table website. It looks like a good value and also has a lid, which I thought might help keep the fumes in. I am also looking at enamel coated cast iron as a possibility. I would appreciate any feedback that any of you have. Thank you



https://www.surlatable.com/product/P...+with+Lid+4+qt.


Canít be certain about this since we donít know whatís in the glaze. Good old Pyrex glass bakeware is perfect though.


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Re: PTFE's, PFOA's, Silicon, and Ceramic Cook/Bakeware

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Sorry to revive a slightly old thread (though stickied), but how do you handle apartment living? Where I live, apartments are built with more.... ventilation; some flats are built to have openings for air and windows are frequently left open. If your next-door neighbour cooks with non-stick pans and whatnot, wouldn't that affect your parrot as well? How do you guys handle that kind of situation? Do you talk to your neighbours to find out what kitchenware they use? Or do you just try to keep your bird away in an isolated room?
Just seeing this. Excellent question. Here's my uninformed, layman's opinion. For the most part, I don't think your neighbors would pose much of an issue in this regard. The outgassed teflon (or comparative nonstick coating) would have to maintain its gaseous "cohesion", despite dispersion into the outside air, for the entire trip over to your window and into your premise. Highly unlikely that it would arrive in a concentrated enough form to have the same deadly effect.

Of course, that's under everyday circumstances. Heavy burning/smoking might allow for the concentration that would be necessary. So I'd say, if heavy fumes were making their way to the window, it would be safer to close it. And the point made about the pesticides and such in a subsequent post was a good one.
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Re: PTFE's, PFOA's, Silicon, and Ceramic Cook/Bakeware

My fear is a neighbor burning microwave popcorn! I gave a neighbor who is home often and whom I trust a key to my place in case of something like this happening when I’m not home
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Re: PTFE's, PFOA's, Silicon, and Ceramic Cook/Bakeware

Thank you Inger. I am looking at glass for baking, but my understanding is it cannot be used over 350 degrees Fahrenheit and I often cook at 425 for meats. If Sur La Table tells me this product is free of pfoa’s and ptfe’s, do you think this is sufficient?
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