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Re: PTFE's, PFOA's, Silicon, and Ceramic Cook/Bakeware

I had no idea they were so sensitive. Irons & light bulbs? I don't know if i'm ready for this. I'll be a nervous wreck 24/7.
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Old 03-19-2019, 03:19 PM
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Yes I totally get that! It's like bringing a baby home. Have to do a lot of research to prepare. BTW, aerosol sprays are an issue too - you can use them but use them in the bathroom with the door closed. And I'm sure you know perfumes, febreeze, scented candles are a no no. Basically their lungs are just different and way more sensitive than ours. Whenever I bring any new appliance -- heater, air purifier, kitchen appliance -- anything-- into the house, I call the company first. Even some rugs have a non-stick (dupont) coating. And household cleaners are another whole area. I've learned to use vinegar, baking soda, or dish soap for most things. The good news is that once you learn all of this, you will be fine. There is just a learning curve. Just keeping asking questions. Don't worry, most of us did!
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Re: PTFE's, PFOA's, Silicon, and Ceramic Cook/Bakeware

Oh and the reason irons and light bulbs can be a problem is they are sometimes non-stick coated.
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Re: PTFE's, PFOA's, Silicon, and Ceramic Cook/Bakeware

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It's our fault for not coming across this info sooner. We got married last summer & literally every pot, pan, & small appliance is brand new & of course non stick. This is going to take some serious salesmanship on my part to convince my wife to buy all new stuff. I guess it's a small price to pay. We haven't taken our little caique home yet so no birds have been harmed.
That's unfortunate, I'm sorry...But really all you should have to tell your wife is that literally any one of those new appliances can and probably will kill your new little baby Caique in a matter of minutes. That should probably do the job...
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I'm pretty sure the only job it'll do is end the bird purchase, but we'll see.
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Re: PTFE's, PFOA's, Silicon, and Ceramic Cook/Bakeware

Right now all this is work. But once you get your little caique home, it becomes a labor of love. I've had my guy almost 2 years and I think I love him more every day.
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Re: PTFE's, PFOA's, Silicon, and Ceramic Cook/Bakeware

I had never heard of silicone or parchment being a risk. I bake bread regularly and always use parchment (there's really no other way to get into the dutch oven safely). Should I be concerned about this if my bird is kept far from my kitchen? Will it be safe if the bird is shut in a different room while I bake? During warm weather my kitchen has great ventilation with open windows but when it's cold I just have to do my best with the vent fan....
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Re: PTFE's, PFOA's, Silicon, and Ceramic Cook/Bakeware

I am always very careful to cut the parchment so that the food covers it. So, under and a little up the edges - but so there is no exposed parchment being heated; IF IF the parchment is making any fumes it will go into the food I will eat, but Not into the air for any birdies nor anyone to breathe.

This sometimes means there is a little more cleaning to be done around the edges of the pan, but it does mean I can use parchment on the bottom-only, where it is especially helpful.
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Re: PTFE's, PFOA's, Silicon, and Ceramic Cook/Bakeware

I would recommend doing a search on this board for silicone and parchment. Please don't quote me because this is from memory, but I recall one member saying that it is not the silicone per se that is the issue when heated, but often chemicals that are mixed with some silicone products. The silicone baking sheets are an example of products that are often problematic. I don't know if others can provide more assistance on this. I try to stay away from silicone in general because I just don't know enough about it, and there are easy substitutes for it. I think it may have also said if you must use silicone to go with a name brand product to lessen the risk. With parchment paper, I believe there are two types. It took me quite a bit of reading and searching to find the right type, but I have used it without a problem even when the paper slightly burns. unfortunately I threw out the box it came in because it didn't fit in the drawer, and I don't remember which brand it was.
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Re: PTFE's, PFOA's, Silicon, and Ceramic Cook/Bakeware

I have read that parchment paper and silicone are problematic (I do believe there may be more than 1 type of parchment though, so you should check into that specifically). Can't you just oil your dutch oven?

FYI- there are also heavy-duty foils that contain PTFE coatings for easier clean-up...so keep that in mind.

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