Breath smells like yoghurt?

SilleIN · Dec 17, 2016

Tino and I are having our cuddle time a little later than usual. He's basically sleeping and evert 10 minutes or so he burps a little and it smells like yoghurt. I have never experienced anything like it.

He does have a delicate stomach and his poop goes a little lighter every time he gets anything else but seeds, dried fruit, nuts and pellets.

I am trying to introduce more fresh food, but have to be really careful, as he already once have had a bad diarrhea.

I have given him a little banana today for the first time and a little plum yesterday. His poop is a little lighter than usual, but that's normal for when I give him any fresh food.

Have any of you ever experienced yoghurty breath on your parrot?

SailBoat · Dec 17, 2016

SilleIN said:
Tino and I are having our cuddle time a little later than usual. He's basically sleeping and evert 10 minutes or so he burps a little and it smells like yoghurt. I have never experienced anything like it.

He does have a delicate stomach and his poop goes a little lighter every time he gets anything else but seeds, dried fruit, nuts and pellets.

I am trying to introduce more fresh food, but have to be really careful, as he already once have had a bad diarrhea.

I have given him a little banana today for the first time and a little plum yesterday. His poop is a little lighter than usual, but that's normal for when I give him any fresh food.

Have any of you ever experienced yoghurty breath on your parrot?

What you can smelling is what is currently still in his crop. It is very rare for stomach gas to pass into crop and then into the month. So, what ever was feed in the last two hours +/- an hour or so, is what you are likely smelling. Hope this helps!

SilleIN · Dec 17, 2016

SailBoat said:
What you can swelling is what is currently still in his crop. It is very rare for stomach gas to pass into crop and then into the month. So, what ever was feed in the last two hours +/- an hour or so, is what you are likely smelling. Hope this helps!

Of course that makes sense, thank you

Then it should smell of banana and pellets, which is the only thing he's been eating the past few hours.

Still really weird it smells like yoghurt

SilleIN · Dec 17, 2016

Ok I think the mystery is solved. Tino just puked (not regurgitation as in mate bonding). He was relaxing and suddenly bobed his head once and puked.

All of the pellets had been digested, but all of the banana was left and smelled like yoghurt (and not in a good way). He may just not be ready for banana yet. I also like my bananas with a slightly green tint to it, so when I try banana again, I might have to give him a very ripe banana instread.

I guess that's why I have never smelled anything like it. I have never had a parrot get sick like that.

And just to ease your minds, he doesn't seem ill in any other way. He's acting completely normal

SailBoat · Dec 17, 2016

SilleIN said:
SailBoat said:

What you can swelling is what is currently still in his crop. It is very rare for stomach gas to pass into crop and then into the month. So, what ever was feed in the last two hours +/- an hour or so, is what you are likely smelling. Hope this helps!

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Of course that makes sense, thank you Then it should smell of banana and pellets, which is the only thing he's been eating the past few hours.

Still really weird it smells like yoghurt

Remember that it is breaking down. Nothing swells the same, after all its changing. Why banana and pellets smell like yoghort? I do not know, just be thankful that it does! Could be much worst!

plumsmum2005 · Dec 18, 2016

If he liked Banana Tino may have wolfed it down too quickly? As you mention give much riper Banana next time, perhaps in very small pieces so he paces himself?

Dinosrawr · Dec 18, 2016

It's entirely possible that he might have a slight yeast infection in his crop, too. I recommend taking him into a vet just to eliminate that possibility if you haven't already. What SailBoat and Plum's mentioned are also good points too though!

SilleIN · Dec 18, 2016

Dinosrawr said:
It's entirely possible that he might have a slight yeast infection in his crop, too. I recommend taking him into a vet just to eliminate that possibility if you haven't already. What SailBoat and Plum's mentioned are also good points too though!

I need to take one of my cats to the vet tomorrow anyway. I will ask for some time for Tino as well. He has so many issues, I don't want him to battle a yeast infection also. He has been to the vet about 2 weeks ago for a full check up, but could easily have gotten a yeast infection the past 2 weeks, as I guess his immune system might not be in full force yet.

I haven't smelled anything on him today, so it was just for about 4-6 hours last night.

plumsmum2005 · Dec 19, 2016

with your Av's consent regarding it's use, it may be worthwhile researching Apple Cider Vinegar with Mother, we have had numerous threads on here about it but just remembered something that may help you with Tino?

Here is one link for a start ... http://www.parrotforums.com/general-health-care/60612-apple-cider-vinegar-filtered-vs-mother.html

SilleIN · Dec 22, 2016

I forgot to update you on Tino. I took him to the vet and he did have a bacterial infection in his crop, so really happy I didn't just ignore the smell.

Thank you guys for suggesting a yeast infection, I didn't really think that far myself. That's what makes this place so great. I don't have to rely on my own brain and experience, I have hundreds of brains and experiences at hand

I will look into the apple cider vinegar. I have to do Tinos antibiotics first. And I guess I need to do some probiotics after that.

Poor Tino, he just doesn't seem to ever get a break. As soon as his infected feather folicle is under control, his crop gets infected. And his tail before that and his plucking and so on...

Please please let my birdie have some time in good health before next issue surfaces

EllenD · Dec 26, 2016

Aww, poor guy, at least all of his medical issues are manageable and not horribly serious. Crop infections are quite common, as you already said you need to give probiotics for a few days after Tino finishes his antibiotics, but I would also recommend giving him a bird probiotic in his food on a regular basis, as this has helped my Quaker with chronic crop infections and constant vomiting.

My Quaker is only about 9 months old but has had digestion issues (for lack of a better description) since I brought him home at 9 weeks old. He had a yeast infection in his crop when he came home, and then after we treated that with Diflucan and probiotics he was fine for a month, then he started puking after he ate at least 2-3 times a week. His tests were normal except his crop flushes always had a small amount of yeast and/or strange bacteria. That was it, nothing else abnormal, except he burps all the time. It's bizarre, but it's just him I guess, lol. Anyway, I tried apple cider vinegar, and it does help, once a day just a little bit, but nothing has helped as much as the bird probiotics I sprinkle on his food every day. I buy a bottle of Qwiko brand probiotics at Petco for $6.99, and sprinkle just a little bit on his fresh food, like banana or in a little bit of oatmeal or something similar that he will get it all (he only gets a tiny pinch of the powder) in him and that it will dissolve it. They don't drink enough water for it to work, so I've gotten him to eat 2-3 spoonfuls of oatmeal or peanut butter with the pinch of probiotics in it. He hasn't had a yeast infection since, and no puke! The other method is using alka-seltzer, but that's for really bad cases (I used this for slow crop or crop stasis when I bred budgies, worked great)...

Anyway, I swear by probiotics, they help with a lot of issues...Good luck to Tino, I hope he gets a break soon!

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SilleIN · Dec 27, 2016

EllenD said:
Aww, poor guy, at least all of his medical issues are manageable and not horribly serious. Crop infections are quite common, as you already said you need to give probiotics for a few days after Tino finishes his antibiotics, but I would also recommend giving him a bird probiotic in his food on a regular basis, as this has helped my Quaker with chronic crop infections and constant vomiting.

My Quaker is only about 9 months old but has had digestion issues (for lack of a better description) since I brought him home at 9 weeks old. He had a yeast infection in his crop when he came home, and then after we treated that with Diflucan and probiotics he was fine for a month, then he started puking after he ate at least 2-3 times a week. His tests were normal except his crop flushes always had a small amount of yeast and/or strange bacteria. That was it, nothing else abnormal, except he burps all the time. It's bizarre, but it's just him I guess, lol. Anyway, I tried apple cider vinegar, and it does help, once a day just a little bit, but nothing has helped as much as the bird probiotics I sprinkle on his food every day. I buy a bottle of Qwiko brand probiotics at Petco for $6.99, and sprinkle just a little bit on his fresh food, like banana or in a little bit of oatmeal or something similar that he will get it all (he only gets a tiny pinch of the powder) in him and that it will dissolve it. They don't drink enough water for it to work, so I've gotten him to eat 2-3 spoonfuls of oatmeal or peanut butter with the pinch of probiotics in it. He hasn't had a yeast infection since, and no puke! The other method is using alka-seltzer, but that's for really bad cases (I used this for slow crop or crop stasis when I bred budgies, worked great)...

Anyway, I swear by probiotics, they help with a lot of issues...Good luck to Tino, I hope he gets a break soon!

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Thank you for your suggestions. Yes all of Tinos issues seem not too serious, but it does make me worry a lot wondering if the amount of issues may be too much for one parrot to cope with.

As I live on the other side of th Atlantic, I don't know of I can get the same brands, but I will be able to get something similar. The probiotics I have used for my birds is something called Zoolac, which can be used for dogs, cats and horses also. It comes in a syringe and is a paste. I will try to see if I can get something in powder form, however Tino is not too fond of wwet food yet, so to start with I'll use what I have.

I have only had Tino for 7 weeks, but this time has been the only time he has burped and smelled like that. I am still figuring out how to best care for him. As he is a plucker I am constantly wrecking my brain to find a way for me to end his plucking. I am still hoping that improving his physical health will heal his mental health.

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