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Old 05-17-2017, 08:00 PM
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A Good Read on Wing Clipping

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I put this health forum because the practice of cutting a birds flight feathers effects their overall health and wellness.

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Re: A Good Read on Wing Clipping

A truly well written, heartfelt statement on what occurs physically and mentally when flight is withdrawn from a flighted Parrot!

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Re: A Good Read on Wing Clipping

Excellent article and very worthy post!!
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Re: A Good Read on Wing Clipping

I wish everyone would read this, especially breeders that insist on wing clips.
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Re: A Good Read on Wing Clipping

Quote: Originally Posted by Lacewing View Post
I wish everyone would read this, especially breeders that insist on wing clips.
Also include Pet Store (especially the big box pet stores) and rehomers also!

. My auto spell correction what's to change rehomer into reformer - interesting!
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Old 05-19-2017, 10:30 PM
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Re: A Good Read on Wing Clipping

Thanks for posting this amazing article! After speaking to our avian vet about how clipping the wings not only reduces the lifespan of your bird by half but also creates a negative disability for them since they are dependent in the wild on their flight I made the decision to not clip our birds wings and it really has been a wonderful thing for them. Birds are meant to fly, and although in some circumstances for their own safety wings may have to be clipped, if they don't I don't think people should do it. Thanks for posting this, I had somewhat of an idea of what it does to their self esteem but this really helped open my mind.
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Re: A Good Read on Wing Clipping

I met Kathy recently. She was great fun and very logical when discussing parrot issues/ideas. She fell a little in love with one of our long time greys at the shelter. I would recommend going through some of her other articles. Especially some of her recent discussions of people often being the real problem when it comes to behavior issues.
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Re: A Good Read on Wing Clipping

I live on the other side of the Atlantic. To be honest we are horrified that wing clipping is the norm, rather than the odd one out. Here the majority of birds are fully flighted.

That said, I have once clipped one of my birds. He kept flying high speed towards the windows. He was then slightly clipped, so he could still fly, but not gain full throttle. He learned the windows were not openings and was never clipped again.

That is to explain, that the only reason for clipping IMO should be done for the benefit of the bird and not for the inconvienience of the owner by a fully flighted bird.

I compare wing clipping to amputating a dogs leg to prevent it from running away. No one would consider doing that. I therefore don't understand anyone doing that to their bird. On top of that, birds respiratory system is buildt up of a set of lungs, but also 9 air sacks, who are reliant on the movement of wings to function properly. By clipping birds wings you are effectively giving your bird astma (long term effect). In Denmark no Avian Vet will ever clip a wing. I know of several times where my vet has ordered a bird into anesthetic and pulling of all the clipped feathers to make the intact feathers grow.

Sorry for my ranting, but this subject is very close to my heart. If my ranting would deter just ONE person from disabling their bird, I am very pleased.

It makes me SO happy, that this forum promotes fully flighted birds.
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Re: A Good Read on Wing Clipping

Kathy has a new book out on sale at Amazon. I am reading it now and I is just full of her wisdom.

The older (3 weeks) budgie Murphy has almost completed re growth of his flight feathers.
They were originally cut by the breeder against my expressed wishes. The babies do not get a chance to fledge. Murphy has no confidence in his flying. He gets winded with short flights and has no landing skills whatsoever. I am in close observation when he is flying to prevent injuries. He does not know where to land yet and heads back to what he knows - the cage. He will improve in time I am sure but no companion bird should have to go through this because a human thought it was a good idea to cut a babies flight feathers. Mickey has not dropped any cut feathers yet so his turn is coming. It is a cruel practice to cut any birds flight feathers for any reason.
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Re: A Good Read on Wing Clipping

Let me cut in here a bit. As many of you know, I believe in keeping my birds flighted. I concur that there are many benefits, physically and emotionally, to doing so. But that said, I want to remind everyone to please be mindful that there are other members on here who do clip their birds' wings. Please refrain from painting them all with a broad brush or using words like cruel.

One person I know, for instance, began clipping because one of her birds broke his neck while flying full tilt through the house. She was heartbroken by this and sought to protect her other birds from the same fate. Another decided to resume clipping after her bird crashed into a wall so hard that he was rendered unconscious for a few minutes.

Now, consider for a moment how either of these two people must have felt in the instant of impact. One having lost her bird, and the other fearing that she had and fully blaming herself. I submit that neither of these two people should be considered "cruel" by any stretch of the imagination.

Want to hear something funny? A woman (and fellow ekkie parront) who used to live across the street from me once told me that I was cruel for keeping my Eclectic Duo fully flighted. She felt that it was inevitable that my birds would crash into a wall and die, and that it would be my fault. I appreciated her point of view, but I certainly did not appreciate the classification. I acknowledged, of course, that a flight related injury is always a possibility. I strive to minimize the chances of one occurring through constant training and vigilance, but the possibility, however lessened, is always there. I liken that chance to the possibility of one of my children being hurt as they run around. I do all I can to protect them, but ultimately I have to let them run. But that's my take. She was free to disagree, so long as she did so civilly. And I, in turn, spoke civilly about the health benefits and joys of fully flighted parrots.

My point? Most of the members here love their birds dearly, and want what is best for their feathered friends. But we won't always agree on what exactly is best. But as a community, we need to strive to respect each other at the end of the day.

I've written this post because a friend of mine felt somewhat judged after reading this thread. So I just want to ask that we remain mindful four fellow members, and how our words might affect them.
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