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Old 07-23-2019, 08:51 AM
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Re: I ask for help in the treatment of African parrot

Hello to all!
So much time has passed, but I return to this subject again, because it is not complete����
And I would like to write that everything is fine, but alas, no. The bird sneezes and whistles (whistles from the nose), and there are also streams from the nose.
For a long time, we rinsed the nose with sodium chlorine 0.9% (physical solution)
We live in Krasnodar, it is the south of Russia, because no one could solve the diagnosis.
The plans were a trip to Moscow, to that doctor, who advised us a doctor at the Moscow Zoo.
We flew in and received an appointment; what the doctor looked took tests:
1) This is a complete blood count (clinical)
2) biochemistry (biochemical blood test)
3) X-ray in two projections
4) when using sdma (new analysis)
5) watched choanas
The next day, we got the test results; on these results, everything is normal, except for the liver, they are slightly higher
indicators. (appointed Heptral (Heptral) month to drink)
The doctor said that he was excluded aspergillosis, so Vorikonazol was not needed. But, but he finds it difficult to make a diagnosis from the fact that the bird sneezes and sniffs, he assumes that it is a blue pus wand
Said that you can try to treat with other antibiotics called Pipercillin and Ticarcillin
And again, these drugs are not in Russia, you need to order from Europe or the United States ���� (those selling similar products to cause gout in birds)
The main problem today is how I can confirm or disprove this disease, I can not find any research on the treatment of Pine Pus in parrots.
Our doctor said that only try can be treated. And I'm afraid to give a strong antibiotic again, and suddenly nothing!
Please, friends, if you suddenly encounter such an article about a blue pus bacillus, please send me. (that's what I found:
https://www.thebirdclinic.com/zosyn-...dr-nemetz.html
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/28644086

Thanks so much for reading our story.
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Re: I ask for help in the treatment of African parrot

Welcome back, I am happy to know Jaquo is doing reasonably well. A second opinion would normally help decide the course of treatment, but that appears limited and you probably saw one of the best avian vets available.

Not familiar with Piperacillin, but Dr. Nemetz is a well known avian specialist in California. Perhaps you could forward Jaquo's history and correspond with him?
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Old 07-23-2019, 01:28 PM
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Hello, Scott!
Thank you for not forgetting.
And there is a site or mail of Dr. Nemetz, I will definitely describe our situation.
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Hi Lidia...

I just saw this post and read EVERY page and every ones response. You are an AMAZING parront! I feel so bad for your little feathered friend. He has gone thru so much problems and yet he keeps on fighting!

I am at a loss that no one over there can give you a definite prognosis and treatment for your guy. I have nothing to offer you. You have made a lot of friends on this great forum who sincerely want to help and get your guy well again.
Please don't feel defeated! You are doing extremely well and doing everything possible for him.
Please keep us updated! And my prayers are going out for a swift recovery.


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Hello, Scott!
Thank you for not forgetting.
And there is a site or mail of Dr. Nemetz, I will definitely describe our situation.
Here you go.
https://www.thebirdclinic.com/
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Old 07-24-2019, 06:27 AM
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Hello, Scott!
Thank you for not forgetting.
And there is a site or mail of Dr. Nemetz, I will definitely describe our situation.
Here you go.
https://www.thebirdclinic.com/
Oh, yes this is exactly the site where I took the information on the use of piperacillin here.
But there is no mail where you could throw a description of the problem, it will be very difficult to make it from Russia
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Old 07-24-2019, 06:30 AM
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Hi Lidia...

I just saw this post and read EVERY page and every ones response. You are an AMAZING parront! I feel so bad for your little feathered friend. He has gone thru so much problems and yet he keeps on fighting!

I am at a loss that no one over there can give you a definite prognosis and treatment for your guy. I have nothing to offer you. You have made a lot of friends on this great forum who sincerely want to help and get your guy well again.
Please don't feel defeated! You are doing extremely well and doing everything possible for him.
Please keep us updated! And my prayers are going out for a swift recovery.


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thanks for the support, very nice
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Hello, Scott!
Thank you for not forgetting.
And there is a site or mail of Dr. Nemetz, I will definitely describe our situation.
Here you go.
https://www.thebirdclinic.com/
Oh, yes this is exactly the site where I took the information on the use of piperacillin here.
But there is no mail where you could throw a description of the problem, it will be very difficult to make it from Russia
Found two likely email addresses, look for a PM from me!
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