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Old 02-18-2019, 12:50 AM
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Inexpensive and bird safe non-PTFE non-Teflon Toaster Oven

Unfortunately, my beloved cockatoo, Spooky, died last week, as discussed on the Cockatoo forum. While I periodically used Teflon at low temperatures, and while his well-known Avian Specialist did not believe it contributed to his passing (suspected heart disease), I have made it a mission to make sure the environment is safe for a rescue bird I hope to adopt very soon.

Thus, I'm ditching my Teflon-coated, infrequently used (but very nice) Breville toaster over and buying one without non-stick coating. As you may know, there aren't many toaster ovens available without Teflon/PTFE. When you do find them, they are usually very expensive.

So, I found one that appears to be Teflon/PTFE free and bird safe that won't break the bank. It's made by Mueller of Austria and is available on Amazon.

Here's the e-mail I received from Mueller as well as a link to the product:

On Sun, Feb 17, 2019 at 12:23 AM wrote:
Subject: Teflon PTFE

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Do your toaster ovens use Teflon/PTFE? This is toxic to birds, so trying to avoid that.

Thank you for contacting us.

The oven is made from stainless steel, no Teflon/PTFE. Please, let me know if you have additional questions.

Sincerely,
Eve Harrison
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Re: Inexpensive and bird safe non-PTFE non-Teflon Toaster Oven

This one is doesn't have Teflon/PTFE.

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...B&gclsrc=aw.ds

This one unique

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...9dd7a807af68fd

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Re: Inexpensive and bird safe non-PTFE non-Teflon Toaster Oven

The also have another one you have to watch out for that manufacturers like to use as well, since they know people are now avoiding PTFE.

Perfluorinated compounds (PFCs), now called Per- and polyfluoroalkyl substances (PFASs), are a class of chemicals that are used to make things stain and stick resistant. They are molecules made up of carbon chains to which fluorine atoms are bound. Fluorine adds the slippery quality. U.S. chemical manufacturers have replaced the phased-out chemicals with reformulated “short-chain” PFCs with six or fewer carbon atoms. Manufacturers claim the new chemicals are less likely to build up in your bodies, but they were not adequately tested for safety before going on the market? The limited research that has been done suggests they may have similar health hazards. For example, one study found that the short-chain alternative PFC chemicals are absorbed into the organs of mice just as easily as the long-chain versions. The study also reported that the replacement PFCs entered the brain in higher amounts than the banned version

Yes you will also see now non stick cookware that’s labeled PFOA or PFTE (aka Teflon) free, that has PFOA and PFOS. For us it can cause cancer, birth defects, liver and kidney damage, high cholesterol, reproductive problems, hypothyroidism and obesity. So it just won't kill your bird, but cause health issues with people as well.

Pretty much just stick to stainless steel with no coating. The only least toxic option is to avoid all types of non stick coatings on appliances. Sounds simple, but finding small appliances that don’t contain PFCs can be very challenging and usually will require emailing, or phone call to the manufacturer?

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Re: Inexpensive and bird safe non-PTFE non-Teflon Toaster Oven

I always specify the full names AND abbreviations of everything I am worried about: PTFE= polytetrafluoroethyline, PFOA=Perfluorooctanoic acid, PFCs=Perfluorinated compounds, PFAS= polyfluoroalkyl substances and Teflon...anything with "fluoro" in it...


I always give names and abbreviations because there is a high probability that the person checking into this for you would be looking for "PTFE", and if they saw "polytetrafluoroethyline", they might not know that those are the same thing.

Another thing--- if you ever get a new appliance while sharing a home with a bird, make sure you run it outside or with your bird elsewhere because things like water heaters, ovens, toasters etc are heated with an anti-corrosion coating from the factory that burns off during the first few use cycles and can harm birds.

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Re: Inexpensive and bird safe non-PTFE non-Teflon Toaster Oven

I know that it is difficult/often impossible to identify Teflon components visually, but based on past experience, the image you posted appears to include a tray with a suspicious coating- if you only asked about the oven, they likely didn't mention the trays (as they are technically not part of the oven).
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Re: Inexpensive and bird safe non-PTFE non-Teflon Toaster Oven

Very good point on brand-new appliances, even the ones free of Teflon coatings or any other coatings containing the fluorintated compounds, and that is to NEVER turn them on for the first time with your bird anywhere inside the house...And this includes if you buy a brand new car, especially a foreign-make of car that has traveled over the ocean...Cosmoline is used to coat the entire underside of all cars that travel over the ocean to get to the US or wherever they're going, to protect against salt-water corrosion on the exhaust systems...It typically takes about 100 miles or so to burn all of it off of the underside of a brand new car, and until it's burnt-off you get that very hot, nasty chemical smell when you drive the car, like you think it's on fire or something...That will kill a bird, no doubt, it's noxious and awful, and people always think there is something wrong with the brand new car they are test-driving when they smell it, and it's hard to convince them sometimes...As someone who has been selling cars for about 15 years now, and who has only ever sold foreign makes like Suzuki, Nissan, VW, Audi, Volvo, Mercedes, and Mitsubishi, every single freaking new car has Cosmoline all over it, lol...

Same thing with ovens, microwaves, heaters, griddles, hot plates, basically any type of appliance or machine that you have to "turn on' and has power to it, and that heats-up in any way...Even new tower computers...
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