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Old 10-10-2019, 10:44 AM
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Best deal for rotary Dremel like tool for birds and various pets nails

I have a Dremel 7300 pet nail grinder version. I used to grind birds and dogs nails over the years, it held up over 3 years, but not that great and found this one at Walmart for under $25 bucks and is about as good as the $89 dollar Dremel Micro and have both and doesn't slow down and drain battery fast like the 7300.

I like the hyper tough much better, do have the Dremel Micro as well and that one a good one and come with a dock, but paid $60 eBay for it and retails for $89, so much more money. The Hyper tough is the best deal as no noticeable vibration, or run out, runs quite when compare to the 7300 which birds tolerate better and just as good of torque at only $25 bucks, just no dock and uses adapter. Hopefully they will make a version with a dock even if it is a little more money.

The 7300 is not that great, I stop using it as have to much run out on shaft and vibration as motor armature is not well balanced and battery doesn't last as long, so had to charge it mid way after doing 2 large birds nails on 3rd bird battery was pretty much dead and now after 2 years battery no longer hold much of a charge, plus had to take apart a couple of times to clean the switch out. On the HyperTough, or Dremel Micro battery still has life left after doing 4 birds nails and a macaw beak. I use my cordless 8220, or corded 3000, or 4300 with flex shaft for my restoration major projects. I will use the smaller micro, or HyperTough at times for polishing and restoring removing scratches from plastic, which does good at that as well so far. Just not good for cutting, or drilling which it isn't designed for anyways.

If your looking for a pet nail trimmer this is the one. It just about as cheap and much better built, don't have to worry about dust getting into the switch and has 5 speeds and is way more quite as armature on motor is balanced. For only $25 bucks is a steal at that price. Is small and lighter when compare to the 8220 and has a light, so makes it the perfect tool for nail trimming. The only things I like about the Dremel Micro better is the dock as when finish with it can just dock it and the power button is towards the top, so if I have to stop quick I can. I think they should change the start up rpm's to start at the lowest rpm range of 5,000, but Dremel Micro has same issue, it start off at about 15,000 rpm when you power it back on.

Figure I post this as I myself didn't know this one even existed till I saw it at Walmart the other day, otherwise won't have spend as much on the Dremel Micro as already have a 8220 and was just looking for something to replace the Dremel 7300 I use to do the birds nails as the Dremel 8220 is far to big for that.

The bits included are so-so, but I feel the same about most Dremel bits as well. The diamond coated bits that came with it are bad, but can use other bits like the Dremel. The sanding and other accessories are ok and come with more then the Dremel. The battery life is great and so are the adjustable speeds. The built in light has been very helpful. The motor is very smooth at all speeds, much better then the Dremel 7300. My birds does not seem to mind the noise and vibration levels as much, which is a huge plus as usually have to towel my female U2 to avoid getting bit, but Baby U2 stay on my leg and griped and hisses at it at first, as she does with any Dremel, but actually put her foot out and allow nails to be cut and her I usually have to put a towel over her head, or manually do nails with a nail emery board. This time around she allow nails to be grinding with no towel needed over her head and on my leg. But did her and Cooper with the Dremel Micro, I used the HyperTough on the rest of the birds, but about the same as noise and vibration and size goes.

The built quality is good for what it is, but only used it for 3 birds and polishing work the day before and yesterday, so about 4 to 5 times. Time will only tell if it will hold up, but don't see any glaring problems off the bat, is built better then I originally expected it to be at that price point. It does use two internal 2000mah Li-ion cells as well sure be long lasting before having to replace them, but does require taking apart as internal and pulse spot welding, which I have, or soldering for some people new ones in, but for others that not tech savvy sure get about 3 years of life and does have a protection circuit that not to sensitive. For $25 bucks is well engineer and decent built of material and powerful for it size. Yes do prefer the digital buttons over the dial, or slider as dust won't screw up and with Dremel they go through switches like crazy as they are not sealed and carbon traces on variable resistor get eaten in time due to the grit getting in. I blow air in mines to keep them clean. There is really nothing currently on the market at that price point that compares to it and you will have to spend way more to get a better cordless.






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Re: Best deal for rotary Dremel like tool for birds and various pets nails

For the size comparison.

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Re: Best deal for rotary Dremel like tool for birds and various pets nails

Good to know about!
https://www.walmart.com/ip/Hyper-Tou...ries/327725803
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Old 10-14-2019, 07:26 PM
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Re: Best deal for rotary Dremel like tool for birds and various pets nails

Here a teardown of the cheap HyperTough vs the Dremel 7300PT which is about the same price range and even yes the more expensive 7700 version is pretty much the same, will buy one to do a teardown, if people are interested? The HyperTough is much better in every way to bearing, to motor used, as has a internal fan to help keep motor cool, plus armature of motor is balanced and has thick internal brushes, no not replaceable, but no cordless really is, but motor sure still last a while as brushes are thick and hard enough and even vibration dampening using strips on both half of the casing. Lock button is much better design as well. They revised a lot from the early version and did a great job. They are even using silicone wires for heat resistance for motor and battery connections, plus heat shrink the connections. Most important is switch is seal decent enough to help keep dust out and board is conformal coated as well as padded to reduce vibration from hitting cells, which I wasn't expecting for a $25 tool, just nice attention to detail overall. Not the best components used, but for $25 buck, I won't expect that.

For $25 after taxes it is a steal and light years better then the Dremel 7300PT in every way. You not going to find anything around that price point that this good. You will have to spend quite a bit more for a better cordless rotary tool. Even prefer it over my old Dremel 8100 which I had to replace the switch twice on as carbon trace on switch burns up after a few times as not a sealed switch and yes did blow air into it once in while to remove dust and I paid $79 for the 8100. The Dremel micro is good and my go to for pets. You can turn light off by pushing the down button till light goes off. The HyperTough light does stay on all the time.

The issue with the Dremel 7300PT/7700 is pretty much the switch is junk and relies on cheap plastic to hold contacts in place which does break as when through two of them over the years and rotates to move to different battery contacts and over time that wear out and does not make good contact with battery and you lose a speed, or have to play with it to get it to turn on, plus motor not secure well and no damping whatsoever. So vibration is a huge issue, so not really suitable for pets as they get scared of the vibration, as it is pretty bad. Then the battery likes to fall out easy. I won't get into the pretty much useless dremel nail guard attachment which won't work with most 7300 as doesn't have thread for it and doesn't cut at right angle. I rather use drum sander with 120 grit even for dogs.

HyperTough 8 volt Max, which sure be label 7.4v as uses two 2000mah 18650 batteries, but I guess 8v max sounds better, but Dremel is guilty of this marketing as well. Using a to believe highdrain 18650 which is very good and doesn't bog down easy as a result. Would have to put on battery analyzer to know for sure of capacity and current curve? The Dremel micro uses two Sanyo 940mah 14650 cells The only weakness I see is the locking as hole in shaft, but is not a 8220 and sure hold up fine so long you not using it with a cut off wheel, but still thicker even with hole then motor shaft. Only way even then I see it breaking at weak spot is if you accidentally hold the lock button while it is power on as it doesn't lock button out like a higher end dremel like a 4300 that cost $129 regularly does, but back on the HyperTough you may wear down shaft, or gets jam up if you accidentally hit the lock button while powered on. Does have protection circuit for over current.













The Dremel 7300PT








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Re: Best deal for rotary Dremel like tool for birds and various pets nails

Here the rest of the teardown, don't worry have one separate for use and bought a extra one for just the teardown and testing. Yes it does do balance charging of the cells in the tool, reason for 3rd terminal. So batteries sure last a while.

You can see the coating on the PCB



Switches do have a rubber seal over them to help protect against dust



Here the motor teardown



Would have like to see a directional fan, but is a universal DC motor.



highdrain 18650 cells


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Will be doing a charge and drain test for capacity, see if it hit close to, or above it rated specs. Later will put on a Rigol DC load tester for current and temperature. Curious to see if they lied on specs. If they are as they claimed. The dremel Micro is using two 14650 Sanyo 940mah cells.




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Yep batteries are as rated as far as capacity on discharge.

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Re: Best deal for rotary Dremel like tool for birds and various pets nails

Nice! Clark has been on the market for a good rotary tool ever since she bought her chainsaw.... I like my dremel 8200 battery powered. Good for quick metal work.
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Re: Best deal for rotary Dremel like tool for birds and various pets nails

Interesting dissection of a dremel tool. I have somewhat been wanting one of these for various home and craft projects, but never got the appeal for using them on birds. I find a quick snip of the nail tip with the special nail clippers for birds followed by a few swishes of a nail file all whilst receiving ample assurances and praise do just fine on the talons. We do nails a few times a year so never need to take off more than sharp tips that stab us (doing it this way also helps prevent needing to cut more of the nail and possibly hitting the quick). I think my bird would be terrified if approached with a noisy power tool while restrained!
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Interesting dissection of a dremel tool. I have somewhat been wanting one of these for various home and craft projects, but never got the appeal for using them on birds. I find a quick snip of the nail tip with the special nail clippers for birds followed by a few swishes of a nail file all whilst receiving ample assurances and praise do just fine on the talons. We do nails a few times a year so never need to take off more than sharp tips that stab us (doing it this way also helps prevent needing to cut more of the nail and possibly hitting the quick). I think my bird would be terrified if approached with a noisy power tool while restrained!
It took some time before my larger birds would allow it near them and even then my female U2 will still to this day hisses and argue at it. She does sit on my leg and will put her foot out without having to restrain her. I also done her nails the long way with nail file emery board for over 2 years.

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