midazolam/flumazenil use at vet

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Last time I took Lincoln to get a beak trim at the vet they recommended a mild sedation that doesn't completely knock them out just makes them more mellow and less stressed. Then they give them a shot that wakes them up and by the time you're ready to leave they should be up and ready to go. Do you think this would be okay to do? beak trims are always very stressful for him and if this was an option it would be nice.
 

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I haven't ever been told that is an option---consequently, makes me a bit nervous, BUT if he gets super freaked out (to heart-attack level) then maybe they feel that it is necessary. I just always get nervous about sedatives etc.
 

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I can see how light sedation could be beneficial for trimming a beak.
The time I had it done the vet used a Dremel and it really freaked my bird out.

For me I think it would come down to the vet's experience with the procedure.
 
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they said it was something new so I'm not surprised it's not more regular. I know there's always a risk with any kind of sedation and birds but maybe I'll give it a try next time I go... just really nerve wracking
 

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There has been a growing interest in using light sedative as part of nail care and Vet visits, in general. The Association of Avian Vets (AAV) supports the use, especially with Parrots that activity stress from being held.

As stated, an Avian Vet with the ability to correctly /safely administer the shot is very important, understanding that two are required.

We work to avoid the use of a sedative in understanding what stresses our Amazon. For him, it's the act and process of being toweled. We have switched to a light weight hand towel in place of a small size bath towel.

I believe that the stressor will be different for different Parrots (individuals), but it is worth the time to understand what results in increased stress with your Parrot. If it can be eliminated or greatly minimized, we should.
 
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Lincoln is very touchphobic so the entire process is a big nono, not sure there's anyway we could minimize it as far as I'm aware since touch is a necessity
 

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As long as your vet knows what he/she is doing, it sounds like other members have been okay using this method. I personally never have, but that is probably because Noodles is a bit of a saucy/sultry gal and she secretly enjoys toweling *shhhh---it's her little secret*
 

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And a Normal Grey Cockatiel named BB who came home with me on 5/20/2016.
Last time I took Lincoln to get a beak trim at the vet they recommended a mild sedation that doesn't completely knock them out just makes them more mellow and less stressed. Then they give them a shot that wakes them up and by the time you're ready to leave they should be up and ready to go. Do you think this would be okay to do? beak trims are always very stressful for him and if this was an option it would be nice.

Amy and BB just had a wellness/groom the other day. Because of his heart condition Doc Kristin administered a dose of midazolam in his nose. By the time she was done giving Beebs his check-up and grooming Amy was already starting to nod off. It helped greatly in keeping him "calmer" than usual. After all was done the doc administered the antidote and within minutes Amy was alert and fine.


Jim
 

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As long as your vet knows what he/she is doing, it sounds like other members have been okay using this method. I personally never have, but that is probably because Noodles is a bit of a saucy/sultry gal and she secretly enjoys toweling *shhhh---it's her little secret*

That just brings a wonderful smile to my fact!!!

Julio's basic interest is in killing them slowly and painfully. The funny part its, the Vet and Vet Tech state he is such a sweetheart. What, do they miss! It takes three of us to just do his nails!!!!

You have such a way with Words - A Wordsmith, you became!!!

Her secret is safe here as I have just blocked Julio's access to this Thread! :D
 
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Last time I took Lincoln to get a beak trim at the vet they recommended a mild sedation that doesn't completely knock them out just makes them more mellow and less stressed. Then they give them a shot that wakes them up and by the time you're ready to leave they should be up and ready to go. Do you think this would be okay to do? beak trims are always very stressful for him and if this was an option it would be nice.

Amy and BB just had a wellness/groom the other day. Because of his heart condition Doc Kristin administered a dose of midazolam in his nose. By the time she was done giving Beebs his check-up and grooming Amy was already starting to nod off. It helped greatly in keeping him "calmer" than usual. After all was done the doc administered the antidote and within minutes Amy was alert and fine.
Jim

Wait one minute there Jimbo!!! Did Doc K use a targeted mist form of midazolam??? This I need to know about!!!
 

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