Cockatiel splayed feet?

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Hello... I am wondering what cockatiel splayed feet look like? As I mentioned in my introduction post I got a 3 month cockatiel from a breeder. She’s healthy but something I’ve noticed is that her feet colour is darker than a normal’s lutino’s? I also have another cockatiel Roco who lives with Reese (the baby cockatiel). She seems to want to sleep at the bottom of the cage and I’m not sure if something is wrong with her legs? She was just at the bottom of the cage sleeping and I checked her. Her feet seem cold. She is healthy but I’m considering taking her to the vet. But I want to ask here too. Could she have splayed feet? How to know if bird has splayed feet?
 
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Or I am looking at possible feet problems? One of her feet seems really cold than the other and I getting worried.....I’m going to take her to the vet in the morning...
 

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Some of our breeder members may have good advice for managing possible foot issues. When in doubt, a visit with certified avian vet is best.

Can you upload images, some of us can share perceptions. Best way is via free hosting site such as Imgur or you can use the "paper clip" function above the text box, just to right of the drop-down smiley menu.
 
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Some of our breeder members may have good advice for managing possible foot issues. When in doubt, a visit with certified avian vet is best.

Can you upload images, some of us can share perceptions. Best way is via free hosting site such as Imgur or you can use the "paper clip" function above the text box, just to right of the drop-down smiley menu.


Can you please tell me how to upload images...Thank you.
 
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As you can see her feet are darker in colour and have been since we got her. Something I forgot to mention is that today she was playing on the dining table and she fell off it and I immediately checked her and she seemed fine. Do you think something happened to her legs because of it? I checked her again and She screeches when you touch her right foot. I will be taking her to the vet ASAP tomorrow morning but any advice is appreciated. Please. Help me.
 
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She seems to be having problem perching and she’s sleeping at the bottom of the cage. Someone please help.
 

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Oh my gosh, oh I'm sooo sorry!!!! I dont read every post every day, I'm sooo sorry

I understand she was 12 weeks? Its possible she wasn't fully weaned, or sometimes a young one will revert back to needing hand feeding when they move to a new home. Thats just one possibility... in tge picture it looked like maybe her keel was very sharp like she may not have been eat enough...and you talked about screaming in yiur other thread thst may have been her begging for food ( hand feeding formula food) young bird can play with food and it serms like tgey are eating when they are not or not eating enough... and sick birds can do the same thing, making you think they are eating when not really

or young birds can die at thus age from a virus they got or an infection that she could have come to you having.. these young parrots at Weaning age its a time they can die because their bodies are under a lot of stress from Weaning and their immunity isn't fully developed yet... i think the fall was a symptom that she was already pretty far gone not the cause of her death...the cold feet was her body already shutting down... i don't think she could have been saved even if you got her to tge vet right then...
I'm so very sorry for your loss.... so very sorry

O would clean the cage very very well every single bar and the food and water dishes and all the perches, and throw out anything soft thst can't be cleaned, just to be safe to your remaning bird. And I would take the remaining burd to an avain vet specialist to be safe incase it was Infectious.

If you ever get a second bird, it must be quarantined fir 30 days separate room from your first bird. Also get a digital kitchen scale, weigh your current burd every day for the next couple if weeks, and turn set up a weekly weight check. This is a tool to help pick up problems with your bird, because they do hide illnesses, until its to late...

A young just weaned burd should have weight checks every few days just be extra safe. This is advice for all the readers of your post...

Such an awful thing for you to go through
There us no way to know exactly what happened unless you had a post mortem done, but even then it can be difficult to get an answer,
 
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Oh gosh I'm so so sorry for your loss! It is also possible it was some sort of cardiac issue. The feet do look dark and purplish to me and them being cold too could indicate circulation and/or heart issues. I don't think your bird had splayed legs. With splayed legs they are held sideways to the body. Some are more so than others( we have a budgie who totally cannot use her legs to stand, they are flat with the ground and she scoots around on her belly, or hangs with one foot holding her up. Some cases are so minor that they just sit a little funny on a perch. Regardless, splayed legs are not life-threatening), but your birds feet look like they were in a more or less normal alignment. If you place your bird's body in the fridge, you could still have your vet examine her body to try and see what may have happened. This would help to identify what happened and perhaps help your other bird if Reese had any sickness she could have given to Roco. I hope she didn't and it was something she was born with, or failure to eat as Laura suggested could be a possibility. Again, so sorry for your loss.
 
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Oh my gosh, oh I'm sooo sorry!!!! I dont read every post every day, I'm sooo sorry

I understand she was 12 weeks? Its possible she wasn't fully weaned, or sometimes a young one will revert back to needing hand feeding when they move to a new home. Thats just one possibility... in tge picture it looked like maybe her keel was very sharp like she may not have been eat enough...and you talked about screaming in yiur other thread thst may have been her begging for food ( hand feeding formula food) young bird can play with food and it serms like tgey are eating when they are not or not eating enough... and sick birds can do the same thing, making you think they are eating when not really

or young birds can die at thus age from a virus they got or an infection that she could have come to you having.. these young parrots at Weaning age its a time they can die because their bodies are under a lot of stress from Weaning and their immunity isn't fully developed yet... i think the fall was a symptom that she was already pretty far gone not the cause of her death...the cold feet was her body already shutting down... i don't think she could have been saved even if you got her to tge vet right then...
I'm so very sorry for your loss.... so very sorry

O would clean the cage very very well every single bar and the food and water dishes and all the perches, and throw out anything soft thst can't be cleaned, just to be safe to your remaning bird. And I would take the remaining burd to an avain vet specialist to be safe incase it was Infectious.

If you ever get a second bird, it must be quarantined fir 30 days separate room from your first bird. Also get a digital kitchen scale, weigh your current burd every day for the next couple if weeks, and turn set up a weekly weight check. This is a tool to help pick up problems with your bird, because they do hide illnesses, until its to late...

A young just weaned burd should have weight checks every few days just be extra safe. This is advice for all the readers of your post...

Such an awful thing for you to go through
There us no way to know exactly what happened unless you had a post mortem done, but even then it can be difficult to get an answer,


I think the breeder gave me a sick bird....It’s not about money because I spend thousands on my birds but I would have liked to known that my new bird was sick so that I could get her the treatment she needed. I think I should have seen the signs and I can’t believe I missed it. The breeder is so irresponsible and I feel very wronged. I did call him twice and ask about her weaning because she seeemd to be screaming for food and he kept saying that she was on solid food. I do not know what happened or why she died and I wish I had answers.

I’m very paranoid and anxious about Roco right now. He seems healthy but so was she until last night. I already threw away the cage and all the things that were in it and bought a new one with new stuff because I don’t want him to catch anything....I wonder if its too late for that now.

Roco is chirping, eating, pooping normally but his vent is soiled. He was playing with his new toy just now. I’m so paranoid I keep checking up on him every few minutes. His feet are a little cold but it has been raining here since morning and the balcony door was open. I want to save him....I’m so worried.
 
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Oh gosh I'm so so sorry for your loss! It is also possible it was some sort of cardiac issue. The feet do look dark and purplish to me and them being cold too could indicate circulation and/or heart issues. I don't think your bird had splayed legs. With splayed legs they are held sideways to the body. Some are more so than others( we have a budgie who totally cannot use her legs to stand, they are flat with the ground and she scoots around on her belly, or hangs with one foot holding her up. Some cases are so minor that they just sit a little funny on a perch. Regardless, splayed legs are not life-threatening), but your birds feet look like they were in a more or less normal alignment. If you place your bird's body in the fridge, you could still have your vet examine her body to try and see what may have happened. This would help to identify what happened and perhaps help your other bird if Reese had any sickness she could have given to Roco. I hope she didn't and it was something she was born with, or failure to eat as Laura suggested could be a possibility. Again, so sorry for your loss.


There are no options for necropsy here so I don’t think I will ever know what happened to her. I’m just extremely worried about Roco. I already feel like a failure as a bird owner...maybe if I had caught on earlier, maybe if I had somehow rushed to some ER, maybe she would still be here today.
 

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My cockatiel died this morning. I can’t stop crying.

I am so sorry, my deepest condolences for your loss of Reese. Grieving is especially difficult for a young bird. May her bright memories bring comfort.

Your hunch of receiving a sick bird is reasonable - the issue for Roco is whether the illness is contagious or hereditary/poor weaning. I suggest taking Roco to the vet for a well-check and basic diagnostic tests. A certified avian vet is best rather than "exotic," though you state a necropsy is not possible. If the vet is not specialized, you'll want to feel comfortable before allowing even a blood-draw.

Please keep us updated with Roco's condition, we're always here.
 

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Psittacosis is one possibility its a common bacteria infection that burds can carry and then become sick when stressed. Its treatable and if thats what it is he needs to see an avain vet and get treated with tge antibiotic doxycline. If that's what it is... also if that is what it is, older burds fo better with this infection. Things aren't hopeless.

Since his vent is soiled, and she also had loose stool, he need to have a fecal exam and culture. To see what's going on

As a supporting measure you can feed a half teaspoon of live culture yogurt with no artificial sweetners. Most burds will lick it from your fingers .. you can give it once a day for a few days . Or if he is put on antibiotics I would keep offering it every other day as a probiotic. Its bit a cure but its supportive...

Even fully weaned young burds can revert back to needing hand feeding when they go to a new home. Sometimes thsts just a couple if feeding a day to support them through the change. Adult burds will sometimes go off feed the first couple of days in a new home to, but as adults tgdy can handle that. Im nit saying that this is what happened, but just something oebers of newly wesned young birds should keep in mind. She could hsve been sick before yiu got her. Or she could have be carrying an infection but fighting it off then the stress of a new home things can overwhelming burds. Even adult burds who carry the bacteria tgst causes psitticosis can have this happen to them. I just want you to be aware of thst, the burd may have been weaned and healthy and then tge stress if the move allowed thungs to get out of hand. Yiu did get a hesltgy burd from thus breeder before....or tge breeder was at fault, or should hsve advised yiu to offer a hand feeding... i don't know.... by tge time burds show being sick its often to late, I wish they hadn't evolved to hide illnesses
 
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Roco passed away last night. He died in my mother’s arms. The vet wasn’t in yesterday and I tried talking to the clinic and said that it was serious but the vet was not available which was really bad turning of events for me. I feel like if he was available I could have saved Roco. He was pretty cheerful during the day and even night and then suddenly he started shivering a little and wanted to go to my mother. He was the most fond of her. He sat down on her and stared at her and let her pet him everywhere (this is something he never lets anyone do, he doesn’t like being pet). He chirped with her and then after a while, he took his last breath.

My whole family has been crying. He was a little child in the family. We’ve had him since he was weaned and he never knew anything but us. I feel so heartbroken and angry.
 
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I lost two birds in the same day, one at morning and one at night. You cannot imagine how I feel. I haven’t stopped crying and the fact that I had to bury both my birds who I never thought would die makes my heart ache so much. After Reese passed away, I got a new cage yesterday because I was afraid of using the same cage they shared. He was only in his new cage for an hour....I got so many toys for him. Toys I know he liked....I ordered more on amazon and they came this morning and looking at them made me break down again. Why did it have to be them....I feel so out of it and I don’t know how to live my Roco anymore....Roco was the little child of the family and every morning he called for me and my mother...He would chirp for breakfast and then play....whistle and talk to make us come to him...He was so, so, so loving. He was THE bird for me. My heart aches so much, I feel like I can’t breathe.
 

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My heart breaks along with yours. I am so sad for your loss, it is very clear how much they meant to you. :(
 

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Ohhh no! You are right I can't even imagine how awful this is. This is a terrible year....
I wish you didnt have to go through this, I'm glad you have your family with you

Be aware their is a very faint very low chance, that tvus could also effect you or your family, be aware if anyone develops fever, flu or respiratory symptoms. Then tell your doctor that you may have parrot fever..... even if someone only has mild symptoms I would still discuss with your doctor
i don't know if thats what happened to your parrots, it could hsve been many things
 
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I lost two birds in the same day, one at morning and one at night. You cannot imagine how I feel. I haven’t stopped crying and the fact that I had to bury both my birds who I never thought would die makes my heart ache so much. After Reese passed away, I got a new cage yesterday because I was afraid of using the same cage they shared. He was only in his new cage for an hour....I got so many toys for him. Toys I know he liked....I ordered more on amazon and they came this morning and looking at them made me break down again. Why did it have to be them....I feel so out of it and I don’t know how to live my Roco anymore....Roco was the little child of the family and every morning he called for me and my mother...He would chirp for breakfast and then play....whistle and talk to make us come to him...He was so, so, so loving. He was THE bird for me. My heart aches so much, I feel like I can’t breathe.

I am very sorry you lost Reese and Roco for mysterious reasons. Your deep sorrow and pain are so apparent, there are no words to adequately comfort. Please allow yourself to grieve, knowing you did everything possible under difficult circumstances.

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