Now a urine question.

Hi guys sorry with all the new threads.I just found one of Pearls poops was normal form with white urates but it had a yellow liquid,or urine,surrounding it.Well I just googled it and it said liver disease!Now I'm worried.Could it be because of her pellets?they are multicolored but there are yellow ones.Shr hasn't ate anything yellow other than that.She is going to the vet in a month and a half but should she go in sooner?Is this serious and has anybody has this before?Thanks.

I wouldn't panic at this stage, yes it's possible there is a health problem but i would just check through out the day & it should clear if there isn't anything wrong.

Of course if it persists it's off to the Vets to have it checked out.

I'd keep an eye on it, and if it happens again, try feeding her something without dyes in it, and if it still happens, I'd take her in to the vet sooner.

Okay.This happens every now and then and it scares me.

Now it's back to regular.

What happens when she doesn't eat stuff with coloring? I might try different food for a while and see if out stops happening.

Suncon, here is a good link to help you with your problem. It may even ease your worries.

http://www.mickaboo.org:8080/downlo....pdf?version=1&modificationDate=1306021223000

I think she is likely to be too young to have liver disease. And the multi colored pellets do cause the feces part to be different colors sometimes, which may have run off a bit into the urine to make it appear that way. Of course if you are concerned it doesn't hurt to consult your vet a bit early. Try also to look at it the moment it comes out before any coloring from the feces can run off into the urine to give you a better idea if it is the feces part or the urine that is colored.

Birds should NOT have yellow urine, as they do not have biliverdin reductase, which is the enzyme that converts biliverdin to bilirubin, and it is the breakdown products of bilirubin (ie, urobilin and stercobilin) that are brown colored (which look yellow when only in dilute concentrations in our urine). These processes are regulated by the liver, via an enterohepatic circulation loop, which we now believe to be important in providing cellular anti-oxidative protective functions. Only a tiny percentage of these pigments are normally excreted into the urine. However, if there are problems with the liver, then large amounts get out from the kidneys, making the urine and urates green or yellow in color. These pigments also deposit in the tissues, including the skin, so macaws, with the bare facial patch, who are suffering from liver failure, have been known to get yellow faces.

However, I wouldn't worry about your bird if its urine is, as you state, at times normal, and only yellow at other times, because you would not get a fluctuating liver condition that alternates between going into and out of liver failure every couple of hours.

Most likely, the cause of the yellow urine is the yellow pigment in her pellets.

But, if your bird has other symptoms or signs of illness, you should take your bird to the avian vet straight away, as some causes of liver failure can kill a bird within a couple of days.

Okay.Today all have been clear urine except after she eats.

Update:Since that last post all of her poops have been normal with clear urine.I talked to her vet and he said it could be the food but when I take her in for her visit I'm bringing a 24 hour poop sample for testing.

Thanks everybody!

She is probably perfectly healthy But, better to be safe. Keep us updated.