I might be relocating in the near future............

antoinette

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to St. Thomas VI. I'm curious what kind of restrictions and how difficult it would be to transport my birds


Sorry to hear that Mike, as long as it is what you want.

Not sure about restrictions, will look it up

How far away is St Thomas from where you are now?


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MaraWentz

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Red Front Macaw, Erin, 1.5,female

Goffin Cockatoo, Blossom 2,female Rehomed

Blue & Gold Macaw, Oscar, Male, 21 years old, Rehomed

American Bulldog Mix,
Department of Planning and Natural Resources
Cyril E. King Airport
Terminal Building, 2nd Fl.
St. Thomas, VI 00802

Phone: (340) 774-3320

They will probably connect you to the Wildlife & Fish Permits, and from there, probably to the Special Permits.

Here is the laws provided and the link to them. Call because they are a lot more easier to understand.


Wildlife And Fishing Permit Information
Fishing Permit Information

The Main regulations that you must abide by, regarding Fish and Wildlife in the US Virgin Islands are as follows:

The collection or possession of ANY indigenous species without a permit granted the Division of Fish and Wildlife, Bureau Of Environmental Education.
Federal Permits must be required for federally listed species as well as Territorial permits.
The transportation or export or sale of any Federally or Territorially listed species, or parts from a listed species is prohibited.
The import or introduction of any species that is not indigenous to the territory without a permit is prohibited
The disturbance, damage or even pruning of mangroves without a permit is prohibited
The damaging of ny indigenous or endangered species is prohibited
The permits that the Division of Fish and Wildlife include:

Import permits - All non-native animals and plants must have import permits from Dept. of Agriculture-Vetrinary Serv. and DFW.
Export permits - All native animals and plants must have export permits
Indigenous Species - All collections of native animals (birds, bats and fish)
Research - All research and monitoring projects in the Territory
Pruning Trees - All native trees need a permit to be pruned (DOA-Forestry, and DFW)
Mangroves - All mangrove pruning or transplanting projects
Corals - All coral monitoring, relocation, collection or restoration projects (including Government projects)
Island Visitation - To visit any non-private offshore cay
Exotic Species - Retention of all non-native species (excepting dogs, cats, and agricultural animals)
Beach renourishment - All sand and beach renourishment

News And Press Release Detail
 

antoinette

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Jul 6, 2009
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Sunny South Africa !!!
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African "Grey"
"Mishka"
Male
7 Years old
Department of Planning and Natural Resources
Cyril E. King Airport
Terminal Building, 2nd Fl.
St. Thomas, VI 00802

Phone: (340) 774-3320

They will probably connect you to the Wildlife & Fish Permits, and from there, probably to the Special Permits.

Here is the laws provided and the link to them. Call because they are a lot more easier to understand.


Wildlife And Fishing Permit Information
Fishing Permit Information

The Main regulations that you must abide by, regarding Fish and Wildlife in the US Virgin Islands are as follows:

The collection or possession of ANY indigenous species without a permit granted the Division of Fish and Wildlife, Bureau Of Environmental Education.
Federal Permits must be required for federally listed species as well as Territorial permits.
The transportation or export or sale of any Federally or Territorially listed species, or parts from a listed species is prohibited.
The import or introduction of any species that is not indigenous to the territory without a permit is prohibited
The disturbance, damage or even pruning of mangroves without a permit is prohibited
The damaging of ny indigenous or endangered species is prohibited
The permits that the Division of Fish and Wildlife include:

Import permits - All non-native animals and plants must have import permits from Dept. of Agriculture-Vetrinary Serv. and DFW.
Export permits - All native animals and plants must have export permits
Indigenous Species - All collections of native animals (birds, bats and fish)
Research - All research and monitoring projects in the Territory
Pruning Trees - All native trees need a permit to be pruned (DOA-Forestry, and DFW)
Mangroves - All mangrove pruning or transplanting projects
Corals - All coral monitoring, relocation, collection or restoration projects (including Government projects)
Island Visitation - To visit any non-private offshore cay
Exotic Species - Retention of all non-native species (excepting dogs, cats, and agricultural animals)
Beach renourishment - All sand and beach renourishment

News And Press Release Detail

Wow so much info, I need not add anything more.

Very interesting as well


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MaraWentz

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Red Front Macaw, Elvis, 10,male RIP

Red Front Macaw, Erin, 1.5,female

Goffin Cockatoo, Blossom 2,female Rehomed

Blue & Gold Macaw, Oscar, Male, 21 years old, Rehomed

American Bulldog Mix,
lol I do research
 
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to St. Thomas VI. I'm curious what kind of restrictions and how difficult it would be to transport my birds


Sorry to hear that Mike, as long as it is what you want.

Not sure about restrictions, will look it up

How far away is St Thomas from where you are now?


:grey:

St. Thomas is about 1200 miles south of me and about 900 miles south of Miami Florida.

I lived in St. Thomas back in the early 70's for about 5 years. My wife was born and raised in St. Thomas. We have property there and have often thought of retiring there. She still has family in St. Thomas. But like I told her, I don't want to have to give up my two babies to relocate down there and the only way I would really consider it is if my birds can go.
 
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Department of Planning and Natural Resources
Cyril E. King Airport
Terminal Building, 2nd Fl.
St. Thomas, VI 00802

Phone: (340) 774-3320

They will probably connect you to the Wildlife & Fish Permits, and from there, probably to the Special Permits.

Here is the laws provided and the link to them. Call because they are a lot more easier to understand.


Wildlife And Fishing Permit Information
Fishing Permit Information

The Main regulations that you must abide by, regarding Fish and Wildlife in the US Virgin Islands are as follows:

The collection or possession of ANY indigenous species without a permit granted the Division of Fish and Wildlife, Bureau Of Environmental Education.
Federal Permits must be required for federally listed species as well as Territorial permits.
The transportation or export or sale of any Federally or Territorially listed species, or parts from a listed species is prohibited.
The import or introduction of any species that is not indigenous to the territory without a permit is prohibited
The disturbance, damage or even pruning of mangroves without a permit is prohibited
The damaging of ny indigenous or endangered species is prohibited
The permits that the Division of Fish and Wildlife include:

Import permits - All non-native animals and plants must have import permits from Dept. of Agriculture-Vetrinary Serv. and DFW.
Export permits - All native animals and plants must have export permits
Indigenous Species - All collections of native animals (birds, bats and fish)
Research - All research and monitoring projects in the Territory
Pruning Trees - All native trees need a permit to be pruned (DOA-Forestry, and DFW)
Mangroves - All mangrove pruning or transplanting projects
Corals - All coral monitoring, relocation, collection or restoration projects (including Government projects)
Island Visitation - To visit any non-private offshore cay
Exotic Species - Retention of all non-native species (excepting dogs, cats, and agricultural animals)
Beach renourishment - All sand and beach renourishment

News And Press Release Detail

WOW, that is what I call research. Thank you. I'm aware of the permit and I don't see any problem with both birds being allowed on the island as long as I have permits for both and they have seen a Vet before transportation and I believe it's less that 10 days before transport.

My main concern is, the transportation part. I have check several of the airlines, which don't allow exotic or domestic birds like American Airlines, which flys from my local airport Orlando to St. Thomas regularly with several flights daily. But they don't take birds. My next option flight wise is Delta, which allows domestic birds to be carried on the plane in carriers as long as both carriers will fit under the passenger seats. If not then they will have to go in checked bag or cargo. The fee's start at $125.00-$150.00 for carry on and up for checked bag and cargo. The price doesn't concern me that much. But the problem is, there are only certain times of the year that they are allowed to go on the plane due to weather conditions, especially in cargo and checked bags

Plus Delta must be boarded in Orlando and then fly North to North Carolina, then back South to St. Thomas.

So my main question I guess is, has anyone travelled with their birds to the Virgin Islands and if so, are there any unexpected surprises that I should consider. Also, I'm not sure how the travelling will adversely affect my birds.
 

MaraWentz

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Red Front Macaw, Elvis, 10,male RIP

Red Front Macaw, Erin, 1.5,female

Goffin Cockatoo, Blossom 2,female Rehomed

Blue & Gold Macaw, Oscar, Male, 21 years old, Rehomed

American Bulldog Mix,
I don't have much help for that, as I have never flown, but I saw this

AirPropel Charters

Sounds amazing, but probably costly.
 

MaraWentz

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Red Front Macaw, Elvis, 10,male RIP

Red Front Macaw, Erin, 1.5,female

Goffin Cockatoo, Blossom 2,female Rehomed

Blue & Gold Macaw, Oscar, Male, 21 years old, Rehomed

American Bulldog Mix,
SharePropel

okay this gives you the range of prices. It really depends on how many people are aboard. It's usually about $8,000-9,000 one way it says, but then you divide that by all the passengers on the plane
 

Alisana

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I'm not familiar with travelling with pets, but looked into shipping options.

Some flights won't allow water/food bowls in the carriers (too high risk of spillage). Depending on how long flights are, see if you can train your birds to drink from a bottle, so that way they don't get dehydrated.

Some carriers will need a vet certificate as well.
 

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