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Peta 03-20-2006 10:44 AM

Some Common Abbreviations
 
BGM, B&G - Blue and Gold Macaw
BC or BCC - Blue Crown Conure
BE2 - Bare-Eyed Cockatoo
BFA - Blue Front Amazon
BP2 - Black Palm Cockatoo
BSL - Blue Streak Lory
C2 - Citron Cockatoo
CAG - Congo African Grey
CM - Catalina Macaw
D2 - Ducorps Cockatoo
DYHA - Double Yellow Head Amazon
E2 - Eleanora Cockatoo
FIDS - Feathered Kids
G2 - Goffins Cockatoo
GC, GCC - Green Cheeked Conure
GCC - Gold Capped Conure
GCP - Grey Cheeked Parakeet
GE - Grand Eclectus
GSC2 - Greater Sulphur Crested Cockatoo
GWM - Green Wing Macaw
HM - Hahns Macaw
HMC - Half Moon Conure
HYM - Hyacinth Macaw
'Keet - Parakeet
LB - Lovebird
LCA - Lilac Crowned Amazon
LSC2 - Lessor Sulphur Crested Cockatoo
M2 - Moluccan Cockatoo
MBC - Maroon Belled Conure
MGM - Miligold Macaw
MM - Military Macaw
MM2 - Major Mitchell (Leadbeater) Cockatoo
MRHA - Mexican Red Head Amazon
MSC2 - Medium Sulphur Crested Cockatoo
OWA - Orange Winged Amazon
PC - Painted Conure
PFLB - Peachface Lovebird
RB2 - Rose Breasted Cockatoo
RLA - Red Lored Amazon
RM - Ruby Macaw
RSE - Red Sided Eclectus
RV2 - Red Vented Cockatoo
SIE - Soloman Island Eclectus
SM - Scarlet Macaw
T2 - Triton Cockatoo
TAG - Timneh African Grey
'Tiel - Cockatiel
'Too - Cockatoo
U2, Umbie - Umbrella Cockatoo
VE - Vosmaeri's Eclectus
WFT - White Faced Cockatiel
YCA - Yellow Crown Amazon.
YSA -
Yellow Shoulder Amazon

Dave 03-20-2006 10:59 AM

re: Some Common Abbreviations
 
Excellent!!-----Many people will appreciate those abbreviations. Thanks lots--------Dave

quakerxxoats 07-07-2007 09:53 PM

re: Some Common Abbreviations
 
Ahh...it all makes sense now.

Thanks for this.

Minzer84 07-07-2007 09:57 PM

re: Some Common Abbreviations
 
Aw Peta...I don't see YCA anywhere... :(

Peta 07-08-2007 07:37 AM

re: Some Common Abbreviations
 
Minzer, its there at the bottom. :o

Okay I added it just a minute ago. Just thought I'd get away with it.

SORRY IGGY, (don't wanna be getting on the wrong side of him now do I)

If anyone can see something else that is missing please let me know and I'll get them added. :D

Minzer84 07-08-2007 10:20 AM

re: Some Common Abbreviations
 
Haha, you can't trick me, I used my "find" function to check for everything with Yellow in it, hehe. Thanks for adding him, you definitely don't want to intentionally make him mad ;) I'm sure Phoebus thanks you as well!

indigo 07-08-2007 10:24 AM

re: Some Common Abbreviations
 
Budgies - they are not on the list (and they are parrots, even if teensy ones)

pheobus 07-08-2007 10:34 AM

re: Some Common Abbreviations
 
To tell you the truth I had also noticed but I didn't mention because Peta does a great job always, even by adding what she missed before! :D
Thanks both! ;)

Peta 07-08-2007 11:22 AM

re: Some Common Abbreviations
 
Do ya know I had forgotten this list was here. Many moons ago whenever the board used to go quiet, I would find things to add, just to keep the board moving along. There are so many things I've added that I haved missed something out off, so please if you find anything then let me know, and I'll put it right.

(peta quickly starts checking the board)

Indigo, I haven't put Budgies on there as they don't usually use initials when talking about them. This list was really meant for new parronts who may get confused when we started using initials. I agree with ya 100% that Budgies are part of the parrot family. :D

indigo 07-08-2007 12:31 PM

re: Some Common Abbreviations
 
maybe we can think of a budgie abbreviation then lol .... perhaps just b hehehe

karen 07-08-2007 01:34 PM

re: Some Common Abbreviations
 
Yeh ..whaat about NLS noisy little s*~t

Peta 07-08-2007 02:32 PM

re: Some Common Abbreviations
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by indigo (Post 10621)
maybe we can think of a budgie abbreviation then lol .... perhaps just b hehehe

Hey now your just trying to get me all confused, :D It happens so easily. :confused:;):)

indigo 07-08-2007 09:46 PM

re: Some Common Abbreviations
 
LOL .... my budgie(s) have never been really that noisy ... when they have sung songs its been sweet little ones and almost never do(es) they / she really screech

SalsasMom 11-05-2010 09:12 PM

re: Some Common Abbreviations
 
THANK YOU SO MUCH, i was getting lost, i need to print this out and hang it on my monitor ;-) much much appreciated from a newbie

Pheonix Rising 11-06-2010 03:30 AM

re: Some Common Abbreviations
 
Alex ( alexandrine )
irn ( Indian ring neck )
qp ( Quaker parrot )
sunny ( sun conure )
keet ( budgie or other small parakeet )
Linnie ( linolated parakeet )

antoinette 11-06-2010 03:35 AM

re: Some Common Abbreviations
 
Here's a fantastic link pertaining to abbreviations http://smileys.smileycentral.com/cat/3/3_3_102.gif

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mishykinz 01-19-2011 03:09 PM

re: Some Common Abbreviations
 
I totally didn't know what "FIDS" meant, til I read this. :o

Birdlover11 10-26-2012 12:15 PM

re: Some Common Abbreviations
 
Neither did I lol many for budgie B2 ?

weco 02-06-2013 02:28 PM

Parrot Acronyms/Abbreviations: Part 1
 
What we tend to refer to as parrot acronyms or abbreviations are really take-offs from alphabetic
(Alpha) codes used by ornithological programs. There are, however, inconsistencies in the rules governing the alpha codes; with some lists not including all species.

Many of the acronyms we are familiar with have been shortened from their normal 4-letter designations; while others have been created for convenience of parrot enthusiasts.

The acronyms listed below were compiled from those used by the U.S. Geological Survey (USGS) Patuxent River Wildlife Research Center; U.S. Bird Banding Laboratory; North American Bird Bander; the American Ornithologists Union; various other authorities and internet news group listings.


‘keet - Budgie parakeet
‘tiel - Cockatiel
‘too - Cockatoo
‘zon – Amazon
AG - African grey
AGP - Australian Grass Parakeet
Alex - Alexandrine Ringneck Parakeet
ARC - Argentina Conure
ARN - African Ringneck
ARUC - Aruba Conure
ASP - Asian Parakeet
AUC - Austral Conure
AZC - Aztec Conure
B & G - Blue and Gold Macaw
BAP - Barred Parakeet
BBC - Brown-Backed Conure
BBP - Brown-Backed Parrotlet
BBPA - Black-Billed Parrot
BC - Blue-Crowned Conure
BC2 - Black Cockatoo
BCC - Blue-Crowned Conure
BCL - Black-Capped Lory
BCMA - Blue-Crowned Meal Amazon
BE - Bare-Eyed Cockatoo
BE ’too - Bare-Eyed Cockatoo
BE2 - Bare-Eyed Cockatoo
BEC - Brown-Eared Conure
BEP - Black-Eared Parrotlet
BFA - Blue-Fronted Amazon
BFP - Blue-Fronted Parrotlet
BFPA - Blue-Fronted Parrotlet
BG - Blue and Gold Macaw
BGM - Blue and Gold Macaw
BHC - Black-headed Caique
BHEP - Blue-headed Pionus
BHOP - Brown-Hooded Parrot
BHP - Blue-headed Pionus
BL - Black Lory
BLCC - Black-Capped Conure
BLM - Blue-Masked Lovebird
BLTC - Black-Tailed Conure
BLTC - Blue-Throated Conure
BLWC - Blue-Winged Conure
BLWP - Blue-Winged Parrotlet
BM - Buffon’s Macaw
Bourkie – Bourke’s parakeet
BP - Brotogeris Parakeet
BP2 - Black-Palm Cockatoo
BRBC - Brown-Breasted Conure
BRP - Brown-Rumped Parrotlet
BRTC - Brown-Throated Conure
BSL - Blue-Streak Lory
BTC - Black-Tailed Conure
BTM - Blue-Throated Macaw
BTPA - Brown-Throated Parakeet
BUDG – Budgerigar
Budgie – Budgerigar
Buffy - Buffon’s Macaw
BWC - Blaze Winged Conure
BWL - Black–Wing Lory
BWP - Bronze-Wing Pionus
BWPI - Bronze-Wing Pionus
C2 - Citron Cockatoo
CAC - Caribbean Conure
CAG – Congo African Grey
CAP - Caribbean Parakeet
CAPA - Carolina Parakeet
CHC - Cherry-Headed Conure
CHL - Chattering Lory
CM – Catalina Macaw
Connie – Conure
CP - Celestial Parrotlet
CPAK - Cuban Parakeet (Conure)
CPAT - Cuban Parrot
CR - Crimson Rosella
CUC -Cuban Conure
D2 – Ducorps’ Cockatoo
DC - Dusky Conure
DHC - Dusky-headed Conure
DL - Dusky Lory
DP - Dusky Pionus
DPI - Dusky Pionus
DYH - Double Yellow-headed Amazon
E2 – Eleanora Cockatoo
EFP - Edward’s Fig Parrot
Ekkie – Eclectus


See continuations in parts 2 & 3

weco 02-06-2013 02:32 PM

Parrot Acronyms/Abbreviations: Part 2
 
This is a continuation from Parrot Acronyms/Abbreviations: Part 1


What we tend to refer to as parrot acronyms or abbreviations are really take-offs from alphabetic(Alpha) codes used by ornithological programs. There are, however, inconsistencies in the rules governing the alpha codes; with some lists not including all species.

Many of the acronyms we are familiar with have been shortened from their normal 4-letter designations; while others have been created for convenience of parrot enthusiasts.

The acronyms listed below were compiled from those used by the U.S. Geological Survey (USGS) Patuxent River Wildlife Research Center; U.S. Bird Banding Laboratory; North American Bird Bander; the American Ornithologists Union; various other authorities and internet news group listings.


ER - Eastern Rosella
FC - Finsch’s Conure
FSC - Fiery Shouldered Conure
FWC - Flame-Winged Conure
G2 - Goffin’s Cockatoo
GC - Green-Cheeked Conure
GCA - Green-Cheeked Amazon (see Red-crowned Parrot)
GCC - Gold-Capped Conure
GCC - Green-Cheeked Conure
GCP - Grey-Cheeked Parakeet
GE - Grand Eclectus
GG2 - Gang-Gang Cockatoo
GOC - Golden Conure
GOCC - Gold-Capped Conure
GP – Greater Palm Cockatoo
GP - Greater Patagonian Conure
GPC - Greater Patagonian Conure
GREP - Green Parakeet (conure)
GRP - Green-rumped Parrotlet
GRUP - Green-rumped Parrotlet
GSC - Greater Sulphur-crested Cockatoo
GSC ‘too - Greater Sulphur-crested Cockatoo
GSC2 - Greater Sulphur-crested Cockatoo
GW - Green-winged Macaw
GWM - Green-winged Macaw
HC - Hispaniolan Conure
HH - Hawk-Headed Parrot
HHP - Hawk-Headed Parrot
HM - Hahn’s Macaw
HMC - Half-Moon Conure
HP - Hispaniolan Parrot
Hy - Hyacinth Macaw
HYM – Hyacinth Macaw
IL - Iris Lorikeet
IM - Illiger’s Macaw
IMP - Imperial Amazon
IR - Indian Ringneck
IRN - Indian Ringneck
IRP - Indian Ringneck
JC – Jenday Conure
LB – Lovebird
LB2 - Ledbetter’s Cockatoo
LC2 - Little corella cockatoo
LCA - Lilac Crowned Amazon
LCP - Lilac-Crowned Parrot (Amazon)
LFA - Lilac-Fronted Amazon
Linnie - Lineolated parakeet
LM - Lear’s Macaw
Lorie – Lorikeet
Lovey – Love Bird
LP - Lesser Patagonian Conure
LPC - Lesser Patagonian Conure
LSC - Lesser Sulphur-crested Cockatoo
LSC2 - Lesser Sulphur-crested Cockatoo
LSCC - Lesser Sulphur-crested Cockatoo
LSC’too - Lesser Sulphur-crested Cockatoo
M’Too - Moluccan Cockatoo
M2 - Moluccan Cockatoo
MA - Mealy Amazon
Mac – Macaw
MaxP - Maximillian Pionus
MBC - Maroon-Bellied Conure
MC - Mitered Conure
MEA - Mealy Amazon
MEXP - Mexican Parrotlet
MFC - Maroon-Faced Conure
MFP - Maroon-Fronted Parrot
MGM - Miligold Macaw
MM - Military Macaw
MM2 - Major Mitchell Cockatoo
MOP - Monk Parakeet
MP - Monk Parakeet
MPI - Maximillian Pionus
MRHA - Mexican Red Head Amazon
MRHA - Mexican Red-headed Amazon (see Red-crowned Parrot)
MSC - Medium Sulphur-crested Cockatoo
MSC2 - Medium Sulphur-crested Cockatoo
MTC - Maroon-Tailed Conure
MXM - Mexican Green Macaw
MXP - Maximillian Pionus
Nan - Nanday Conure
NC - Nanday Conure
NSC - Nansun Conure
OCPA - Orange-Chinned Parakeet
OFPA - Orange-fronted Parakeet
OL - Ornate Lory
OTPA - Olive-Throated Parakeet (Conure)
OWA - Orange-winged Amazon
P2 - Palm cockatoo
PA - Panama Amazon
PACP - Pacific Parakeet (Conure)
PAIP - Painted Parakeet (Conure)
Patti - Patagonian Conure
PC - Painted Conure
PFC - Peach-fronted Conure
PFLB - Peach-face Lovebird
PGC - Pineapple Green Cheek Conure
PGCC - Pineapple Green Cheek Conure
Pi – Pionus


See continuation in part 3

weco 02-06-2013 02:34 PM

Parrot Acronyms/Abbreviations: Part 3
 
This is a continuation from Parrot Acronyms/Abbreviations: Part 2


What we tend to refer to as parrot acronyms or abbreviations are really take-offs from alphabetic(Alpha) codes used by ornithological programs. There are, however, inconsistencies in the rules governing the alpha codes; with some lists not including all species.

Many of the acronyms we are familiar with have been shortened from their normal 4-letter designations; while others have been created for convenience of parrot enthusiasts.

The acronyms listed below were compiled from those used by the U.S. Geological Survey (USGS) Patuxent River Wildlife Research Center; U.S. Bird Banding Laboratory; North American Bird Bander; the American Ornithologists Union; various other authorities and internet news group listings.


Poi – Poicephalus
PP - Pacific Parrotlet
PRC - Puerto Rican Conure
PRP - Puerto Rican Parrot
PTLT – Parrotlet
PYC - Pearly Conure
QBC - Queen of Bavaria Conure
QP - Quaker Parakeet
RB2 - Rose-Breasted Cockatoo (Galah)
RBC - Red-bellied Conure
RBM - Red-bellied Macaw
RBP - Red-bellied Parrot
RCA - Red-crowed Amazon (Red-crowned Parrot)
RCC - Rose-Crowned Conure
RCP - Red-crowned Parrot (aka – Green-cheeked Amazon; Mexican Red-headed Parrot; Red-crowned Amazon)
REC - Red-Eared Conure
RFC - Rose-Fronted Conure (aka - Wagler’s Conure)
RFM – Red Front Macaw
RFP - Red-fronted Parrotlet
RFPA - Red-fronted Parrotlet
RGM - Red & Green Macaw
RHA – Red Headed Amazon
RHC - Rose-Headed Conure
RLA - Red-Lored Amazon
RLPA - Red-Lored Amazon
RM - Ruby Macaw
RMC - Red-masked Conure
RNP - Red-necked Parrot
Rosie – Rose Breasted Cockatoo
RP - Ringneck Parakeet
RRPA - Rose-ringed Parakeet
RSE - Red-Sided Eclectus
RTB2 – Red-tailed Black Cockatoo
RTC - Red-throated Conure
RV2 - Red-Vented Cockatoo
RWP - Red-winged Parrotlet
SB2 - Slender-Billed Cockatoo
SBC - Slender-Billed Cockatoo
SBC - Slender-Billed Conure
SBCC - Slender-Billed Corella Cockatoo
SC - Sun Conure
SC2 - Sulphur-crested Cockatoo
SCC - Salmon-crested Cockatoo
SDC - Sunday Conure
Sen - Senegal Parrot
Sennie - Senegal Parrot
SFC – Scarlet-fronted Conure
SHP - Saffron-headed Parrot
SIE - Solomon Island Eclectus
SLP - St. Lucia Parrot
SM - Scarlet Macaw
SM - Severe Macaw
SOUC - Souance Conure
SP - Spectacled Parrotlet
SPA - Spectacled Amazon (aka – White-fronted Amazon)
SPM - Spix Macaw
SPP - Spectacled Parrotlet
STC - Sharp-Tailed Conure
SVM - Severe Macaw
SVP - St. Vincent Parrot
SWPA - Sulphur-Winged Parakeet (Conure)
SYH - Single Yellow-Head Amazon
T2 - Triton Cockatoo
TAG - Timneh African Grey
TBP - Thick-billed Parrot
U’Too - Umbrella Cockatoo
U2 - Umbrella Cockatoo
Umbie - Umbrella Cockatoo
VE - Vosmaeri Eclectus
VNL - Violet-necked Lory
VosE - Vosmaeri Eclectus
WBC - White-Bellied Caique
WC - Wagler’s Conure (aka - Red-fronted Conure)
WCA - White-Collared Amazon
WCP - White-Capped Pionus
WEC - White-Eyed Conure
WERC - White-Eared Conure
WF - White-Faced Cockatiel
WFA - White-Fronted Amazon (aka – Spectacled Amazon)
WFC - White-Faced Cockatiel
WFPA - White-Fronted Amazon (Parrot)
WWPA - White-Winged Parakeet
YBA - Yellow-Billed Amazon
YCA - Yellow-crowned Amazon
YCC - Yellow Cheeked Conure
YCM - Yellow-Collared Macaw
YCPA - Yellow-crowned Parrot (Amazon)
YFA - Yellow Fronted Amazon
YHA - Yellow-Headed Amazon
YLP - Yellow-Lored Amazon
YNA - Yellow-Naped Amazon
YNM - Yellow-Naped Macaw
YNPA - Yellow-Naped Parrot (Amazon)
YSC - Yellow Sided Conure
YSGC - Yellow Sided Green Cheek Conure
YSL - Yellow-Streaked Lory

weco 02-06-2013 02:59 PM

Re: Parrot Acronyms/Abbreviations: Part 1
 
I have some 300Gigs+ of parrot information, including images of injuries & sick birds, along with sounds, but because of the forum's posting limitations getting some of it up is a bit difficult.

Most of what I have is other than anecdotal or hypothetical and some is more technical than a lot of us wish to read.

MonicaMc 02-07-2013 06:31 PM

Re: Parrot Acronyms/Abbreviations: Part 1
 
Even if you can't put all the information into one post, it would be great if all the information was in one thread. That way, it would be together!

And my oh my! This is probably the most extensive abbreviation list that I've seen!

MeganMango 02-07-2013 07:10 PM

Re: Parrot Acronyms/Abbreviations: Part 1
 
Why do people refer to their parrots as fids?

MonicaMc 02-07-2013 07:36 PM

Re: Parrot Acronyms/Abbreviations: Part 1
 
FIDS - Feathered/Furred Kids

There's also FRATS, FILDREN, PARRONT and I think I'm missing one...

I own a "my-turd" ;)


weco, I suppose people would still have to copy from the other threads, so figured it would be easier if it was all in one thread.

Birdlover11 03-31-2013 04:59 PM

re: Some Common Abbreviations
 
We were discussing on a thread about the misconception of budgies and American slang term parakeet. I thought we could make a abbreviation of parakeet/budgie so it could clear up a lot of misconceptions. 3 TIMES have I givin a member wrong information because I thought she was using the budgie, not the parakeet family. I thought about B2E, B stands for budgie , 2 stands because we usually get 2 of the species for company, E because it ends in E. Is there a chance ?

weco 03-31-2013 05:33 PM

re: Some Common Abbreviations
 
Arbitrarily creating our own acronyms may end up confusing us & anybody trying to figure out what we're trying to convey.....

What we tend to refer to as parrot acronyms/abbreviations are really take-offs from alphabetic (Alpha) codes used by ornithological programs. There are, however, inconsistencies in the rules governing the alpha codes; with some lists not including all species.

Many of the acronyms we are familiar with have been shortened from their normal 4-letter designations; while others have been created for convenience of parrot enthusiasts. The acronyms listed below were compiled from those used by the U.S. Geological Survey (USGS) Patuxent River Wildlife Research Center; U.S. Bird Banding Laboratory; North American Bird Bander; the American Ornithologists Union; various other authorities and internet news group listings.

In case you didn't know, a while back I posted two pages of known/accepted acronyms under: Parrot Acronyms/Abbreviations: Part 1 & Parrot Acronyms/Abbreviations: Part 2

Parrotdise 03-31-2013 05:57 PM

re: Some Common Abbreviations
 
RBP= Red Bellied Parrot

weco 03-31-2013 06:54 PM

re: Some Common Abbreviations
 
It's already in the list: Parrot Acronyms/Abbreviations: Part 3

ann 03-31-2013 07:47 PM

re: Some Common Abbreviations
 
BHP- black hooded parakeet or NC nanday conjure (same thing) or as I like to call them, weird little brats :D
Thanks Peta and weco!

weco 03-31-2013 08:36 PM

re: Some Common Abbreviations
 
Nan & NC are both in the list, but not BHP...couldn't find it in any of the various ornithological sites.....sorry.....

ann 03-31-2013 09:17 PM

re: Some Common Abbreviations
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by weco (Post 250734)
Nan & NC are both in the list, but not BHP...couldn't find it in any of the various ornithological sites.....sorry.....

I guess BHP is a stretch, I have only heard that name a few times. Thanks for checking though :green2:

Abdulla 04-30-2013 01:11 AM

re: Some Common Abbreviations
 
BE2 - Bare-Eyed Cockatoo
BFA - Blue Front Amazon

^^^^^^

That is what I want .. thanks for posting such a helpful thread ;)

Best regards

weco 04-30-2013 01:24 AM

re: Some Common Abbreviations
 
You're welcome.....I see you're looking around...there's a lot of information in the archives, but too often people would rather post questions rather than take a bit of time to see if their answer is not already there.....

Maybe it's just their way of demanding personal attention.....

Mommajack 06-23-2013 02:05 PM

re: Some Common Abbreviations
 
I will never remember all these lol

getwozzy 06-23-2013 03:12 PM

re: Some Common Abbreviations
 
Soooo....would a Tucuman amazon be TA?? Or how about TAZ?? TAZ seems more fitting with his mood swings lol

weco 06-23-2013 04:02 PM

re: Some Common Abbreviations
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by grey782163 (Post 276689)
so what would be the abbreviation for a Cuban Amazon? CA? CZ? C-Zon? CUB?

There's no ornithological 3-letter code designation for a Cuban Amazon parrot, but if you use Alfa codes under International Organization for Standardization (ISO) iso3166 alfa-2, you come up with CUA, the CU standing for Cuba & the A for Amazon & if you want to use alfa-3 standards, it would be CUBA, which would be a understandable misnomer.....

Since the first publication of ISO standards back in 1974, we have seen more and more notations of things being included under the ISO designation, so,if you wanted to petition the organization for recognition of the Cuban Amazon, that's probably what you would get.....

goalerjones 08-22-2013 03:11 PM

re: Some Common Abbreviations
 
In our house we have our own abbreviations for Hahnzel such as, LG- little guy, SLG- stinky little guy, and of course RSG- really stinky guy, which is usually used just before a "time out".

D13H4RD 09-28-2013 07:19 AM

re: Some Common Abbreviations
 
Ha ha, wondered what all that was about when I was reading through the posts. Anyway I know now I have a BFA : )

weco 09-28-2013 02:13 PM

re: Some Common Abbreviations
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by getwozzy (Post 276698)
Soooo....would a Tucuman amazon be TA?? Or how about TAZ?? TAZ seems more fitting with his mood swings lol

Actually, I found that an abbreviation of AT had been proposed, apparently for its Latin spelling, back in 2008, but I could not find where it had ever been accepted and published.....

I had the opportunity to sit in on an ornithological society meeting a good number of years ago.....definitely too stuffy for me...you almost had the feeling that they had written Robert's Rules Of Order.....they sure are not given to doing anything in a hurry.....


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