THe kea I can't believe it wow

cateyes221981

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[ame="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rCT7BexFoiM"]Stoat Attacks Kea - YouTube[/ame]


IT is a hard video to watch I can't believe how this lil stoat killed them???


They did a number on my chickens and killed adult roosters also.

My beastly dog was not fast enough to catch them. My barn cat took over and she killed 2 of them.

She was taught by her mother so knew what to do. BUt she never hurt my chickens or any parrots in the house or baby birds or anything.


I am shocked the mother was totally helpless even with that beak? I saw my cat catch a large male stoat she held on to its throat till it died. Without her everything would have gone. My cat is just a female calico farm cat. Shes not the queen of cats like my old siamese mix who acted like a cougar was.

They are not that big yet kill huge birds.
 

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I've travelled NZ quite extensively and was amazed at how many dead stoats and possums on the roads. Saw a few live stoats too. You've got to wonder at the intelligence of European settlers that move into one of the most remarkable environments on the planet then introduce rubbish animals to make it feel like home. But them the Maoris introduced dogs and rats (they eat them) and ate all the moa (the protein helped with a population explosion, then all the moa were gone, and the Maori were reduced to eating ferns).

Here in WA they shoot sparrows and starlings they try to cross the border, so what you get in gardens are native WA birds (apart from lorikeets in Perth, which came from eastern states, and feral pigeons).
 
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I love pigeons they are messy but they are gentle peaceful birds at least


I like starlings as the bird but the aggression is too much for weaker birds

Only king birds can handle them


The indian myna was the only cavity nesting bird that actually whiped out the starling

I heard starlings even took out kestrels? but again these predators take each other out rats do kill starlings, and cats kiill all of them if they can get a chance. So do foxes. Everything wants an easy meal though.
 

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Mynas are "rats of the air" around Sydney. I detest starlings and sparrows (although I loove finches generally). I used to shoot mynas with an air rifle, of course now a neighour woyld see you and you'd go to gaol for 20 years as a terrorist:) It's so nice to have gardens with native honeyeaters and other birds, instead of feral/introduced rubbish. We ahve feral pigeons around here and they make a shocking mess. Haven't seen them lately I think there's been a shoot to thin them out.
 
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do mynas kill off hook bills? i am shocked because everyone says never mix softbills with hook bills because hook bills will kill them

but the indian myna seems to kill off hook bills? i have no idea how though? I have wanted one as an avairy bird since a child. They are cheaper than the hill myna. I read a myna has eveen been seeing driving cockatoos from nests. Thats a HUGE parrot.
 

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Mynas are "rats of the air" around Sydney. I detest starlings and sparrows (although I loove finches generally). I used to shoot mynas with an air rifle, of course now a neighour woyld see you and you'd go to gaol for 20 years as a terrorist:) It's so nice to have gardens with native honeyeaters and other birds, instead of feral/introduced rubbish. We ahve feral pigeons around here and they make a shocking mess. Haven't seen them lately I think there's been a shoot to thin them out.

Hello,

Myna's are not native, or protected. While you cant shoot them in a Metro area, there have been traps you can make to trap and " eliminate " them with. As far as I know these plans are endorsed and can also be downloaded free.
CVCIA Landcare - Build a Myna trap I did a quick Google.
 
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but the indian myna seems to kill off hook bills? i have no idea how though? I have wanted one as an avairy bird since a child. They are cheaper than the hill myna. I read a myna has eveen been seeing driving cockatoos from nests. Thats a HUGE parrot.

Mynas will often swarm nesting hens, drive them off crush/eat eggs and/or kill chicks or push them out of nests for vigilant cats, dogs or other predators.....
 

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Indian Mynas are communal roosters. There's an enormous Camphor Laurel at the corner of our street and billions of mynas roost there every single night. It would take one bloke with a decent cannon net and a few canisters of CO2 and they'd be *gone*! Rotten things! They chase off the native birds and I've even seen a mob of them that had blinded a poor old Blue Tongue lizard in the neighbour's yard. When I first began birdwatching, Indian Mynas were rumoured to be found in pockets of Sydney. Since then, the feelthy steenking creatures have invaded just about everywhere people are! A young couple moved into a house up the street from us and their baby was born not long after. Eventually, they had to move because of the Myna infestation in the roof: their newborn had *lice*!!!

I'm as much an animal lover as anyone and I hate to see suffering, but these birds are out of their element and invading mine. They have to go!

Just as an aside and to keep this on topic: we attended my nephew's grand final footy match yesterday (they won!). After the match, which finished late in the afternoon, we walked back to our car. The carpark was lined with very old fig-trees and these appeared to be absolutely chocka-block full of roosting birds! I stood for ages, trying to see what kind of birds they were, but it was difficult in the fading light. Eventually, I was able to make out hordes and hordes of Rainbow Lorikeets and Scaly-breasted Lorikeets all roosting in the extreme tops of these huge, spreading trees! The sound was deafening and I reckon there could have been well over a thousand birds there. I also spotted Eastern Rosellas and a Crimson Rosella, but I'm not sure whether they were aiming to roost along with the Lorikeets.

Then, driving home, we happened to pass under the street trees at Jesmond (neighboring suburb). The racket from the roosting birds there was deafening as well. More Rainbow and Scaly-breasted Lorikeets! Hundreds and hundreds of them! When I was a child, you threw a party if you saw a single parrot fly overhead. Slowly and slowly, Galahs, Corellas, SC2s and now the Lorikeets have come into the cities and made themselves at home. I *love* this! It gives you something cheerful to look out for all the time! Unlike the Indian Mynas, which are noisy, dirty, aggro and depressing.
 

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I had no idea that Mynas is causing such an issue over in Australia...And here I've wanted one as a pet for a long time after watching them as a kid amazed by their capabilities to talk.
 

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I had no idea that Mynas is causing such an issue over in Australia...And here I've wanted one as a pet for a long time after watching them as a kid amazed by their capabilities to talk.

There are mynas and mynas, Mikey. We're talking about the Indian Myna Acridotheres tristis, a huge pest of urban areas here, at least in the east.
 
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myna is in the starling family even the hill myna

the ones we saw were the big black hill myna

ALl of them are pretty but some are very beautiful

I would not hate on a species for surviving people are hating on monk parakeets and indian ring necks now as a species for surviving? People caused the issue. The birds are just too good at surviving. The starling has caused problems but nothing like the myna.

One thing people mix up are noisy miners and indian mynas. Noisy miners are native and very aggressive aslso and look just like mynas.
 

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I don't hate on Noisy Mynas for surviving, I hate on them for driving away native birds and being so aggressive and overpowering. Noisy Miners and Bell Miners (Bellbirds) are, as you say, native and related to the Honeyeaters. Indian Mynas are exotic and related to the Starlings. Neither of these species belongs here and both have done a lot of damage through pushing native birds out of habitats. Still, I can't help liking Starlings as a bird (used to have a pet one) and totally disliking Indian Mynas.
 

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I don't hate on Noisy Mynas for surviving, I hate on them for driving away native birds and being so aggressive and overpowering. Noisy Miners and Bell Miners (Bellbirds) are, as you say, native and related to the Honeyeaters. Indian Mynas are exotic and related to the Starlings. Neither of these species belongs here and both have done a lot of damage through pushing native birds out of habitats. Still, I can't help liking Starlings as a bird (used to have a pet one) and totally disliking Indian Mynas.

There were a great many Miners at my last posting over east. The office was surrounded by grevillia so miners and smaller honeyeaters would come in some numbers. The main one was the blue-headed one, which also used to amuse me by poking around under the roof iron for spiders:)
 

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Oh my gosh! If I were there I would take that wezle thing and throw it in the bushes and rush the baby's to the vet! That's so sad!
 

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