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Old 04-04-2018, 10:45 PM
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Re: Are my training sessions with my bird hurting our relationship?

Quote: Originally Posted by GaleriaGila View Post
Great advice above!

I agree. I wish I did more of these things myself.

May I add a note about expectations? If you have a difficult bird (sounds like you DON'T, but...)---

Most would say that my bird is pretty awful. He's a fun mimic and a real character, but...
Even after all these years, I sometimes find myself putting myself or my bird down... stuff like...
I SHOULDN'T HAVE TO PUT UP WITH THIS OR THAT.
WHY CAN'T HE BE SWEET AND NICE, LIKE A PUPPY?
PEOPLE WILL NEVER UNDERSTAND WHY I PUT UP WITH THIS.
Stuff like that.
But the Rb is a parrot... in his particular case, one generation out of the wild.
I do all the right things, as much/well as I can, but in the end, I just LOVE my bird,
Some parrots are SO SWEET, and I'm a bit JEALOUS of those successes. Over the years, I have been very embarassed/downhearted/sad about having a pet that was so... out of my control. But it is my choice to indulge and adore him.
Finally, I accepted that I have an amazing half-wild being who shares my life! It's magic enough for me!

I love your open-mindedness and obvious adoration for your bird.

I predict a wonderful relationship.
We'll GAIIIIL as RB would say, don't be jealous. Some birds are just more storn willed than others. I'm learning this with my Finley. Ollie is will to bend to nearly my every will but Finley isn't having it! I'm yet to find out if he is just like this or if it's just a stage but there are times I can't for the life of me get Fin to do as I ask. Training him seems not effective so far on eliminating his bad habits...some birds may just not like to please us! And you know what... it's okay. We still need to love and cherish them the same and enjoy these special stronger willed birds in a new and wonderful day as you have with RB!
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Old 04-07-2018, 12:59 AM
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Re: Are my training sessions with my bird hurting our relationship?

Thanks wrench13, I think I'll do that! Sounds fun. Also, just noticed your on Long island, I'm in Setauket!

Thanks for the tip, Inger. I was purposely trying to use a small space without too many places to take a leap of faith to. I'm thinking of moving the sessions to my room and just cover the places he likes to run to with a sheet. Although I probably won't be attempting any training until he's less paranoid of my hands.

So far the diet change is going great for my IRN, he seems to be fine and even interested in pellets. He looks very curious and tries everything I've put in his food bowls so far. I've found that he LOVES raw almonds and cashews so I think I've found what I'll use as a bonding catalyst. He is still apprehensive to fruit but seems to enjoy cooked corn, squash, carrots and broccoli which I'll be providing daily with some variation. I've decided to only provide seeds to my birds if they take it from my hand, my cockatiel had no problem doing that so I've been leaving my hand with some seeds in my IRN's cage while my tiel eats
from my other. The look on Dagger's face was so jealous I couldn't help but laugh. The jealousy prompted him to get within inches from my hand but ultimately decided to back off.

My cockatiel is a little more difficult with the dietary changes. For a while I was leaving him with pellets and seeds but he would completely ignore the pellets. So I tried mixing them and slowly taking out seeds over time. He still ignored them. But with more strict timings of meals and the taking away of bowls between meals makes him more apt to eat the pellets and vegetables (also afraid of fruit so far). I am going to start dusting the seeds I hand feed him with Harrison's high potency mash so I can wean him towards the pellets.
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Old 04-07-2018, 10:54 AM
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Re: Are my training sessions with my bird hurting our relationship?

Do you let them see you eat fruit? If you havenít tried that, eat it in front of them and make a big deal about how wonderful it is. Works with pellets too (although I faked it LOL)


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Old 04-07-2018, 04:34 PM
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Re: Are my training sessions with my bird hurting our relationship?

Yeah I eat it in front of them, still won't budge. Oh well!
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Old 04-10-2018, 02:12 AM
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Re: Are my training sessions with my bird hurting our relationship?

Please do not force Dagger away from his cage. Doing so can result in cage aggression.

Forcing him away from his cage and putting him in a small room will only result in anxiety and stress.



I have a wild caught ARN and she is *NOT* cage bound. She's not tame or friendly, either, which is my fault... once I learned she was wild caught, I just didn't have the heart to tame her. I'd rather see her in an aviary with others like her. When I first got Sylphie, I kept her in a 'small' cage. Upgraded her to a bigger cage, no big deal. And then, she figured out how to escape from said cage! I had to change the cage in such a way that she couldn't get out. No big deal. Then she lived in a walk in aviary for a while. Never tried to escape from that cage! Although the first time I put a 'smaller' cage into the aviary, she happily climbed right in when I wasn't in the room! Second time I tried that, she didn't want to go in!

I now have her in this 'smaller' cage (32" x 21" x 35") and of course she has figured out how to escape from this cage twice! (my fault...) So I've had to bribe her back in!


If Migi will eat from your hands, then use that to your advantage! Monkey see, monkey do! And it crosses species barriers! You can get Dagger's trust by using Migi as a 'teacher'. Even if Dagger isn't comfortable at first, that's okay! Keep trying! Eventually, he'll take that first step, and it'll be the first of many!


But please, do not ever force him away from his cage (unless absolutely necessary i.e. vet visits!) or place him in an area where he's scared, anxious and stressed with no way to get back to his cage! It is not the way to train and tame a parrot! (contrary to popular belief - I know!)
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