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I have been birdless for a few years and am finally in a position to be able to own a feathered friend or friends again. However I am undecided on a species. I've only ever owned Parakeets/Budgies however I have also helped care for Cockatiels, Macaws(Blue and Gold), African Greys, Electus in the past but never lived with them. One of my jobs is at a veterinary office where we see birds so I've helped handle Conures, Quakers and larger parrots when they come in. So I am looking for feedback on how one decides on which species to get and which will best fit their lifestyle. I have been doing research but am having a difficult time deciding on a species. Any feedback appreciated!

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Old 03-11-2019, 10:28 PM
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Well, I would suggest a cockatiel. They aren't too loud, and that would be better if you have any neighbors living close by. Of course they are vocal but it's not too loud.

Of course there are bird species that are also not that loud (parrotlets, lovebirds and budgies to name a few)

Macaws, Sun Conures, Cockatoos are some species that come on the loud side. Cockatoos are also destructive and from what I've read, need lots of attention.

I haven't actually owned a bird bigger than a cockatiel and going on what I have read and a few interactions with some birds. If I have gotten a few things wrong, please correct me.

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My only interaction with the species I've helped care for has just been helping to feed or restrain at work I never actually lived with them so I wouldn't be able to say if your wrong or right. My only personal owning and living experience has been with Budgies. My current setup housing wise is in an average house length distance apart from neighbors. They never had any complaints with my Budgies but they weren't that loud so I'm unsure how getting a louder noisier species would fare with them. Can you tell me a bit about Cockatiels? I'm not new to them or birds in general but I'm having a terrible time deciding on a species and I want to make sure I'm properly updated on everything as well before bringing home a new addition.
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Re: Deciding on a Species

I. Love. Cockatiels. They’re sweet and have the loveliest vocalizations. They’re a real pleasure and can do well when you’re at work as long as you make time for them before and after. I would get one now but there aren’t any here where i live.


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Re: Deciding on a Species

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My only interaction with the species I've helped care for has just been helping to feed or restrain at work I never actually lived with them so I wouldn't be able to say if your wrong or right. My only personal owning and living experience has been with Budgies. My current setup housing wise is in an average house length distance apart from neighbors. They never had any complaints with my Budgies but they weren't that loud so I'm unsure how getting a louder noisier species would fare with them. Can you tell me a bit about Cockatiels? I'm not new to them or birds in general but I'm having a terrible time deciding on a species and I want to make sure I'm properly updated on everything as well before bringing home a new addition.
Well I hope I can be of some help in choosing a feathered companion for you.

Cockatiels can make loud sounds which are only loud when your in the same room, in a another room though, not so loud, but still audible.

They can get nippy when in a bad mood, but from my experiences, it doesn't hurt too much and the pain only lasts for a bit. They can still draw blood and that can hurt like any bird's bite will.

They are of course adorable. The males are more vocal and more likely to talk than females.

A 5x5x5 cage or maybe a little smaller/bigger is a good cage size. 4x4x4 can also work.

Also you can tell if they are female or male when they are around 7 months old (after their first moult). If they have vertical lines on their tail its probably a female. If they have no vertical lines, probably a male. Oh and this works with almost every color mutation but, lutino and albino . Also on white face cockatiels the male will have a whiter face with the female with a more grayish one.

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Old 03-12-2019, 05:04 AM
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Re: Deciding on a Species

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I. Love. Cockatiels. They’re sweet and have the loveliest vocalizations. They’re a real pleasure and can do well when you’re at work as long as you make time for them before and after. I would get one now but there aren’t any here where i live.


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I am bit intrigued. Burundi must be a fascinating place.
I find it difficult to believe that the city or place you live does not have cockatiels . I have assumed that all the major cities and towns of the world that have say a 100,000 people or more would have a pet shop or breeder with Budgies, Cockatiels and possibly the Rosy faced, (and for bigger towns Fischer's and Yellow collared_ lovebirds.
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Re: Deciding on a Species

LOL *none* of my friends would ever consider a cockatiel because they are so bloody noisy!
So dutch cockatiels must be a lot louder than in every other country? I do not know!

(One of my friends grew up with a 'tiel, she was his sisters bird and he actually prefers the macaw yelling! Of course it is a lot louder but the rest of the time she is blessely quiet/ mumbles and hufs.)


I am going to be all "the universe will take care of it" (with a big wink) in this: if you decide there is room in your life for a bird...one will find you (sometimes they even come in multiples).
Usually it is not the bird you want, but the bird you need (and it will need you as well).


(I would not have chosen a macaw, but there she is... and she is a wonderfull teacher.)
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Old 03-12-2019, 09:05 AM
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Re: Deciding on a Species

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LOL *none* of my friends would ever consider a cockatiel because they are so bloody noisy!
So dutch cockatiels must be a lot louder than in every other country? I do not know!

(One of my friends grew up with a 'tiel, she was his sisters bird and he actually prefers the macaw yelling! Of course it is a lot louder but the rest of the time she is blessely quiet/ mumbles and hufs.)


I am going to be all "the universe will take care of it" (with a big wink) in this: if you decide there is room in your life for a bird...one will find you (sometimes they even come in multiples).
Usually it is not the bird you want, but the bird you need (and it will need you as well).


(I would not have chosen a macaw, but there she is... and she is a wonderfull teacher.)

Cockatiels loud? Are you sure they are talking about Cockatiels and not Cockatoos? I never heard a Cockatiels that louder then a Macaw. I grew up with Cockatiels and use to raise and breed them back in the day and currently have 5 of them. I can say 5 of them singing and screaming don't equal one Cockatoo, or Macaw.

Cockatiel are pretty friendly and only time I was bitten to the point of one drawing blood was with Pepper and due to he was mishandled at the pet store and hated hands period. After he got over the fear of hands he stop being nippy. Cockatiels in general are not anywhere near as nippy as other birds. They love to be handle and out of cage and less likely to put up a fight, or be nippy. Hence why they get along well in groups. Yes they do at first fight with each other over food bowls and perches and usually work out who is first and ETC and usually just a lot of yelling at each other and pushing. Just don't put a couple, or more males to a female in same cage and usually you will be fine. Where larger birds can severely injure, or kill each other if they wanted to and take a lot longer to introduce them to each other and only allow next to each other in play area, or if mates, but never can keep in same cage unless they are a mated pair and even then you have to still watch out for aggression.

Cockatiels are pretty forgiven and very social. They make great companions for most people and have the personality equal to larger birds while being only medium size and don't get into nearly as much trouble, easier to handle and way less louder then larger birds.

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Re: Deciding on a Species

Of course I’m personally a huge cockatiel advocate (are all Dutch cockatiels noisy?? That’s really odd to me! We have 21 and they are all pretty quiet...)

But actually helping people choose a species is one of my favorite things, though I usually do it on the phone. But I can give you the general ideas of what I ask

-what is your MONTHLY budget for care? Not your initial set up budget, because that can be saved for, but how much can you afford to spend in an ongoing manor?

-In your daydreams about owning a bird, what are you are your bird doing together? Does your bird need your attention every second? Puppy dog style snuggles? Talk? Do tricks? Hang out on the play stand by your desk while you work? Go hiking with you?

-How important is it to you that your bird accept strangers? What about a significant other? Do you want a bird who loves you above all or would a bird who bonds easily to multiple people be best?

-do you have other pets? Do you plan on getting more than one bird in the next 30 years? If so, how important is it to you that the birds interact?

-how offended are you by being bitten? If you do get bitten, how important is it to you that the bite not be too hard?

-What sort of noises do you hate? Constant noise? High pitched noise? Grading noise? How close are your neighbors? How many dogs I. Your neighborhood bark?

-what do you do for a living? How many hours a day will you spend at home on an average weekday? What are your weekend hobbies?

-how likely are you to have to move in the next 20 years? Do you rent or own? Do you have a roommate? Spouse? Children? If you don’t now, do you think you will in your lifetime?


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Re: Deciding on a Species

ParrotGenie:
Yup, cockatiels and budgies are "kiddies birds" overhere, so a lot of schoolchildren (7-14) are given one as a "less demanding than a dog or cat and not as stinky as a rabbit or hamster"-animal so nobody is really prepared for the non-stop whistles and schreeches for attention of the semi-neglected bird.
Unfortunately they are not seen as real parrots (parakeets are not considered parrots by most people) and also not treated as such, they are in the catagory "small dumb birds kept in cages" like zebra finches and canaries.
(they cost about the same too)

I personally really prefer a few loud screeches once in a while (none would be better, but hey...parrot!) and mostly silence to the non-stop tweeting, twittering, whistling and schreeches.

That is probably why there is a fad about the Pyrrhura (you call them conure) going on: they are the grown-up persons budgie...
Once we are grown up and settled we miss the funny little birdy we had when we were young(er) so we get an "adults-birdy".


(people are crazy and very into 'following the group')



SilverSage:
great questions!

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