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Old 10-06-2020, 12:02 PM
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Re: Ornithology: Share and discuss scientific articles on parrots!

That is grotesque, Laura. As if Quaker chicks are harvested like produce from trees or vines. Absolutely disgusting, no regard for sentient life.....
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Re: Ornithology

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Cold and drafty? Want a safe way to offer warmth?

I use the Sweeter Heater. A radiant heat panal. It used to sold by Avitech for parrots, but must not have been a big enough market lol. Because now they sell it for chickens!! I have used for 18 years.

The smallest size is still probably to big. I hang it on a low corner on the back of the cage, with a perch on the indide in front of heater. . If your cage is very small be careful as this does put out a lot of heat and they need to be able to move away from it. Probably don't want to to cover the top of the cage either. Young can find thermostats that have a temp probe, that turn it on and off at set temps, I used to have one anyway....
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Hi Laurasea
I am interested and curious about the infrared heated pads you mentioned in your comment about heating cold and draughty rooms.

After a little investigation, I came across the item (below) and wondered if itís similar to what you used to use?

I am shocked that it is double the price in the U.K. - Iím fact, itís almost 50% cheaper to buy one on Amazon.com inclí the import fees! The only down side is that a UK/US plug adapter would be necessary.

Anyway, I just was interested about your comments/what you think of this product (if you have any (and if you have the time)).

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Re: Ornithology: Share and discuss scientific articles on parrots!

Hi LuLu,

I don't have any experience with the product you showed. Tho I have read product reviews that the parrot had to be right next to it for small amount of warmth. Which could be perfect t for what's needed or not.

You should start a new thread and ask if anyone uses it has had experience with that product. As its sold in the states too.

The sweeter heater goes outside the cage , or attached to a movable mount to it can be 20 inches away . It puts out a lot of radiant heat. My new bird Orbit was having chills his first day home, so I put mine on his cage , and he learned quickly to go sit by it. But it would overwhelm a small cage if not placed 6 to 10 inches back..

So the one you found could be perfect. But I have no experience with it...
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Re: Ornithology: Share and discuss scientific articles on parrots!

I do not like soy. I grew up next to soybeans fields. I tell you I never saw one creature in the fields , no birds, no rabbits, no deer, no bugs. Its basically a weed, its beyond easy to grow, its cheap, cheap to produce. Soy also has phyto estrogen, which acts on the body like estrogen . I know someplace else in thus thread I've talked about it.

As I'm fascinated by ekkie diets, I came across this on an ekkie site.

" Soy is quite a controversial and sometimes touchy subject when it comes to Parrot care givers. In the past soy has been claimed to cause feather picking and allergies. Some Eclectus parrots are food sensitive while others can eat anything offered with no bad reactions. If you're responsible with the amount of soy offered to your Eclectus, then there is very little chance you will encounter these sort of health problems.

Today however there is a great deal of new studies and evidence found that suggest the soy toxins can cause acute and chronic effects in both animals and humans. This is known as 'anti-nutrients'. They are also classed with environmental toxins which are present in every food product that contains soy.

Studies in New Zealand have seen soy and soy products to cause premature maturation, beak and bone deformities, immune system disorder.

So it is simply no longer classed as something as simple as an allergy to a bird, it is much more than this.

Soy is not a necessity to your parrots diet, there are many other fresh, raw foods that you can use in place of soy. Soy is, in my opinion, a food your bird can go without."
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Re: Ornithology: Share and discuss scientific articles on parrots!

Saving this for the great explanation of a avian respiratory system.

https://ladygouldian.com/content/why...-air-sac-mites
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Re: Ornithology: Share and discuss scientific articles on parrots!

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Saving this for the great explanation of a avian respiratory system.

https://ladygouldian.com/content/why...-air-sac-mites
As alway, an excellent Post on one of the most misunderstood major organs of the Bird body.

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Re: Ornithology: Share and discuss scientific articles on parrots!

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Saving this for the great explanation of a avian respiratory system.

https://ladygouldian.com/content/why...-air-sac-mites
As alway, an excellent Post on one of the most misunderstood major organs of the Bird body.

Thank you!
Thanks it was a good one. It also tied in the importance of supplemental warmth for sick burds, with respiratory system and energy expenditures
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Re: Ornithology: Share and discuss scientific articles on parrots!

PTSD in parrots
" Psychiatrist and pioneer traumatologist Judith Herman created the category of Complex PTSD to bring attention to the profound effects that captivity imposes on the prisoner, because a PTSD diagnosis often fails to capture the severe psychological harm that occurs with prolonged, repeated trauma. [6] The US Department of Veteran Affairs describes victims of long term trauma as those who have been "held in a state of captivity, physically or emotionally. In these situations the victim is under the control of the perpetrator and unable to flee." They sustain "a prolonged period (months to years) of total control by another." [7]"

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Re: Ornithology: Share and discuss scientific articles on parrots!

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I'm starting this thread as place for us all to post sciencey stuff on parrots! Please share your links or articles.

This first link is to a study on parrot intelligence.
https://www.sciencedaily.com/release...0703131208.htm

What an awesome thread Laura! I have a lot of reading to catch up on. I will only use my 'thanks' button once I've read the articles so that you can check on your students progress .
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I'm starting this thread as place for us all to post sciencey stuff on parrots! Please share your links or articles.

This first link is to a study on parrot intelligence.
https://www.sciencedaily.com/release...0703131208.htm

What an awesome thread Laura! I have a lot of reading to catch up on. I will only use my 'thanks' button once I've read the articles so that you can check on your students progress .
Thats awesome! Please feel free to add as well!
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