IRN keeps trying to land on my shoulder

Crayfish066 · Aug 26, 2017

My very grumpy and bitey IRN keeps trying to land on my shoulder, obviously I am not a fan of this idea considering his low level of tameness and that in the near vicinity of my shoulder is my face.

He doesn't even step up on my hand yet, although he does get on a stick albeit if only so he can run along it to try and bite me.

AmyMyBlueFront · Aug 26, 2017

LOL...sorry for laughing

sounds like he/she "kind of '" trusts you,to land on your shoulder..I don't think its a case of "i'll get you my pretty...and your little dog too!"
I know a lot of people will disagree on this suggestion,but how about getting your IRN a "slight" clip so he/she can't fly to your shoulder? Then you can start with the step-up stick thing" This way your little devil will have to be more dependent on you to get around?
Just a suggestion...

Jim

plumsmum2005 · Aug 26, 2017

What happens when he lands on your shoulder, what does he do after that.

You could leave him if he's good and remove if he isnt. He will learn the right one eventually.

I believe in give a little to get a little.

Great he wants to come to you, he is trusting you so work on that humungous step he has taken.

clark_conure · Aug 26, 2017

if he's bitey put him back on the floor till he learns that it's inappropriate, I agree with AmyMyBlueFront that some trust has been built, but you have to be the parent also. He'll pick it up soon if your consistant.

If he doesn't...a small clip to the wings might be in order, and show dominance of a sort. I clip my birds wings just for his own safety. But cutting say 1/4" off the edge will limit him and he will be more manageable.

Crayfish066 · Aug 26, 2017

Lol when he lands on my shoulder I basically try and move so he flies off because i don't trust him at all. He's also started to
perch on a metal bar on my desk that's a couple of feet away from my face, I don't mind this though because it gives me time to
react if he tries to bite which he doesn't really do anyway unless you give him reason to.

He seems to have adapted really well to flying over the past few days after being let out for about 1 and a half hours a days.
It's a big difference to when I first let him out and he was flying into walls.

clark_conure · Aug 26, 2017

THAT might be part of the problem...next time he lands try ignoring him....just relax, if he's bonded enough that he comes to you he might be bonded enough not to bite if you are calm. If he does bite use your hand to remove him even if it means being in the line of fire.....he needs to learn biting is bad and ...........I really hate to put it this way, Im' trying to thing of a more tactile response; but you need to not be afraid.

Biting bad, bird on floor, bird lands on you...don't freak out ignore him at first till he bites. You should both learn to be comfortable with one another...

Right now it seams neither of you is trusting or comfortable...this is at least my take from your story.

You don't trust him, he doesn't trust you.... take a leap. He might be ready for the bonding now. If not, put him down maybe not on the floor but on your lap....let him know the shoulder is a privileged position.

Crayfish066 · Aug 26, 2017

clark_conure said:
THAT might be part of the problem...next time he lands try ignoring him....just relax, if he's bonded enough that he comes to you he might be bonded enough not to bite if you are calm. If he does bite use your hand to remove him even if it means being in the line of fire.....he needs to learn biting is bad and ...........I really hate to put it this way, Im' trying to thing of a more tactile response; but you need to not be afraid.

Biting bad, bird on floor, bird lands on you...don't freak out ignore him at first till he bites. You should both learn to be comfortable with one another...

Right now it seams neither of you is trusting or comfortable...this is at least my take from your story.

You don't trust him, he doesn't trust you.... take a leap. He might be ready for the bonding now. If not, put him down maybe not on the floor but on your lap....let him know the shoulder is a privileged position.

The problem is he tries to bite me whenever I make contact with him, he basically lunges. If I could get him to not try and bite my hands first then I could trust him to be within pecking distance of my eyes.

clark_conure · Aug 26, 2017

so what you have two of them.....No only kidding...

yeah if he's not there yet when he lands out him on your lap....keep it going you have to get it inside his head that biting is not allowed, either on the floor or on your lap.

Inger · Aug 26, 2017

Can you put your hand up on your shoulder when he heads your way? Then he lands on your hand instead. Bumble likes to land on my head and I hate that, so if I hear/see her coming, I put my arm/hand in her way and about 75% of the time it works.

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T00tsyd · Aug 26, 2017

What about wearing strong gloves (Falcon style) ?

Crayfish066 · Aug 26, 2017

T00tsyd said:
What about wearing strong gloves (Falcon style) ?

Funny you should mention that, I bought a pair of welding gloves a while ago but didn't want to use them much but started to use them again today and he doesn't really seem bothered by them, mainly just curious.

I can't really feel any real pressure when he bites down on them but that is more so when he is chewing, I imagine it would probably be worse if he lunged.

plumsmum2005 · Aug 27, 2017

I can remember the early days of having Plum and he definitely was going to my shoulder come hell or high water. I think it is a bit exploratory the face biting and probably a bit strange to them (our face/head). What I did was as soon as he landed gently push the back of his head down to my shoulder asking for a kiss. Kissed the back of his head, talking to him softly. It diffused and distracted him, he got used to it and the bites stopped. He just puts his head down now as soon as I ask for a kiss.

My message is find something that works for you two, connect with him.

Crayfish066 · Aug 27, 2017

Lol I offered him my finger when he was out of his cage earlier, he just kept biting it while his eyes were pining.

He didn't lunge though so does that mean he wasn't necessarily angry?

Still haven't got him to climb on my finger sadly.

LordTriggs · Aug 29, 2017

he may well be excited.

He's still exploring and figuring things out. the idea of putting your hand on your shoulder is good. He'll either land on your hand or divert. Now having a green cheek landing on your glasses, that's the tough one!

Sounds like his flying regimen is working, I personally say not to clip to change his behavior. Just keep working, keep being friendly and let him learn to trust. Sure you'll get some chomps but what bird owner doesn't get bitten?

Notdumasilook · Sep 4, 2017

Strong gloves and a football helmet and goggles!!

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