African Ringneck needs his beauty sleep

[lettie]

Hey guys! Important info: i've had my parrot since September 24th.

Alright so let me start this off with my parrot is indeed in my bedroom. It is the BEST option. Considering I live in a small home and the living room is RIGHT next to the kitchen. Which I am fully aware is terrible for the bird.

I am a huge introvert so I spend most of the day in my bedroom. So you dont have to worry about the parrot being alone. He has me to deal with all day

In fact. He had made lots of progress. He would try to find a way to escape when I first began reading to him, but yesterday he just continued playing even though my face was right next to his cage while reading. Made me very very happy.

My question is, would it be okay if I moved his cage at night to the living room so he could sleep there and move it back in the morning? I cant sleep without sound (weird I know) it's been hard getting used to no sound. Aka no sleep the last few days haha. So I would love it if there was an alternative.

I know people have sleeping cages in other rooms for their parrots, but I cant freely move my bird as he does not know step up (I mean in general hes scared of hands atm)

Would it help if I moved him after covering him for bed? I dont want to overwhelm him with new surroundings, so I was thinking that would probably be the best. You know, for his cage to be covered before I move him.

I am a first time parrot owner, so please be nice.

 

[Kiwibird]

First, being in your bedroom will NOT protect your bird from teflon poisoning if that is your concern with him being near the kitchen. The colorless, odorless fumes can certainly engulf an entire house and you'd never know it as it's rare for larger mammals/humans to get sick from it. If you're using nonstick teflon (PFOA/PTFE) cookware, you MUST get rid of all of it, regardless where your bird is located in your home.

Now, if you still opt to keep your bird in your room, just be sure he has his cage covered in a dark, solid color fabric. I think sleep cages are a waste of time and one more thing to clean/buy. No parrot in nature has a pitch black, dead silent sleeping environment. Anyone who's been camping knows nature is neither silent nor entirely dark at night (the moon!). Birds will adapt to their environment. The most important thing is making sure his cage is covered/uncovered at roughly the same time every night/morning year round so there is a clear difference (in his view) of "night" and "day". The caveat being, if you plan to throw a loud party in your room, you may want to move him elsewhere, but normal TV/conversation etc... isn't going to bother him.

 

[lettie]

First, being in your bedroom will NOT protect your bird from teflon poisoning if that is your concern with him being near the kitchen. The colorless, odorless fumes can certainly engulf an entire house and you'd never know it as it's rare for larger mammals/humans to get sick from it. If you're using nonstick teflon (PFOA/PTFE) cookware, you MUST get rid of all of it, regardless where your bird is located in your home.

Now, if you still opt to keep your bird in your room, just be sure he has his cage covered in a dark, solid color fabric. I think sleep cages are a waste of time and one more thing to clean/buy. No parrot in nature has a pitch black, dead silent sleeping environment. Anyone who's been camping knows nature is neither silent nor entirely dark at night (the moon!). Birds will adapt to their environment. The most important thing is making sure his cage is covered/uncovered at roughly the same time every night/morning year round so there is a clear difference (in his view) of "night" and "day". The caveat being, if you plan to throw a loud party in your room, you may want to move him elsewhere, but normal TV/conversation etc... isn't going to bother him.

Okay thank you. Hes been covered and uncovered at the same time every day. I was worried that my quiet discord chats with my friend would wake him, but this is reassuring. My dad also told me that birds dont have complete silence in the wild, but the constant chat on websites about birds needing complete silence made me feel like I needed to be SNEAKY. Haha.

Thank you. I will definitely make sure to protect my bird from teflon poisoning. Thank you for that warning.

 

[MonicaMc]

I'm with Kiwibird... I've never "babied" my birds. I'm not particularly loud at night, but once the birds go to sleep, I don't try to be quiet, either.... I just do normal human stuff, and if something goes "bump" it's usually not a big deal.

I have a cockatiel(s), and cockatiels tend to be very sensitive to disturbances at night... so I don't even bother trying to keep things quiet so that they get used to various noises or light disturbances and don't have a night fright.


If you can't sleep without sound, you can try playing some quiet music, maybe some nature sounds (although not necessarily 'jungle' sounds - depends on what is included!), leaving a fan on, etc. Make sure your bird isn't bothered by the noise and you should be set.

 

[lettie]

I'm with Kiwibird... I've never "babied" my birds. I'm not particularly loud at night, but once the birds go to sleep, I don't try to be quiet, either.... I just do normal human stuff, and if something goes "bump" it's usually not a big deal.

I have a cockatiel(s), and cockatiels tend to be very sensitive to disturbances at night... so I don't even bother trying to keep things quiet so that they get used to various noises or light disturbances and don't have a night fright.


If you can't sleep without sound, you can try playing some quiet music, maybe some nature sounds (although not necessarily 'jungle' sounds - depends on what is included!), leaving a fan on, etc. Make sure your bird isn't bothered by the noise and you should be set.

Thank you, Monica. You're the best.

 

[noodles123]

I think it depends on the bird. If they aren't sleeping, you will hear them moving and if that doesn't stop, you may have a light-sleeper who needs changes. That having been said, I WOULD NEVER move a cage with a cover over it and a new parrot...I think that could freak your bird out way more

 

[MonicaMc]

I was reminded as to why my birds *need* to be okay with noises that go "bump" in the night.... the house sits underneath a freakin black walnut tree! And when they fall, it sounds like someone is throwing a tennis ball at the house! They fall day or night...

But even before we lived there, I still didn't try to keep things quiet.

 

[lettie]

I think it depends on the bird. If they aren't sleeping, you will hear them moving and if that doesn't stop, you may have a light-sleeper who needs changes. That having been said, I WOULD NEVER move a cage with a cover over it and a new parrot...I think that could freak your bird out way more

Yeah the only time I heard him move was when I accidentally made a huge bump. But besides that my keyboard and light chatting didn't bother him. I guess that's a good thing.

You're right. I thought new surroundings would stress him out. Guess they both lose lose situations for my little parrot.

Appreciate the response

 

[EllenD]

I too was concerned with the comment you made that having your bird's cage next to the kitchen is "terrible for the bird"??? What did you mean by that? There is nothing at all wrong with keeping your bird's cage near or even in the kitchen. In fact, all 4 of my larger parrot's cages are in my living-room and dining-room, which are connected to each other and also open to the kitchen. My house is a 3-story split-level, and the second level is the main living level, and has 3 rooms that are all open to each other...Not only that, but each of my birds has their own T-stand located IN THE KITCHEN, and all 4 of them absolutely love to sit on their stands in the kitchen while I cook. Then we all eat together at the same time. So there is nothing at all wrong with or bad, or "terrible" for your bird about having them near or in the kitchen...

As already mentioned, if you were thinking that having your bird's cage near/in the kitchen was "terrible for him" because your family is currently still using non-stick pots and pans that have a black-colored, non-stick coating on them (these are the ones that contain Teflon and/or PFOA's, PTFE's, etc.), you need to immediately stop your family/yourself from using these types of pots and pans!!! A separate room on the entire other side of the house, or on a different floor of the house, behind a closed-door, will not protect your bird from these fumes at all! This is unfortunately a very common misconception, and the reality is that it only takes one little whiff of these harmful fumes to instantly kill your bird. Closed-doors are not protection, and the fact is that these types of non-stick pots and pans just absolutely cannot be used in a home that has any type of bird. Period. I know of a family who were life-long breeders of Macaws, and who lost 40 healthy birds, from newly hatched babies to a 60 year-old Macaw, all within about 15 minutes. They had purchased a new small, ceramic space-heater, and they were running it in their kitchen. The space-heater contained a Teflon coating inside of it, which burnt-off during the first time they used it...They kept their 60 year-old pet Macaw, as well as a Cockatoo, down an entire floor in their finished basement, behind 2 different closed-doors, one at the top of the stairs, and then another to the room of the basement the birds were in...When 2 newly-hatched baby Macaws who were inside of Brooders in the kitchen/dining room area suddenly dropped over dead at the same time, and then their pet Cockatiel literally dropped out of the air, dead, while flying from his stand in the living room to the kitchen, they realized it had to be fumes, so they immediately turned off the space heater and threw it outside...Then they started carrying each bird outside in their cages, one by one, but unfortunately a total of 40 birds (most were Cockatiels living in an indoor aviary in the basement) were already dead, within 15 minutes of turning on the space heater, and only the 2 baby Macaws were located in/near the kitchen. The rest of their birds were either in a room on the same floor behind a closed door, or on a totally different floor of the house AND behind closed doors...and the fumes still got to them and killed them within minutes...And once your bird breathes-in just a second or two worth of those fumes, that's it, there's nothing you can do to help them...

So please, if people in your house are still currently using any pots, pans, bakeware, etc. that contains any type of black-colored non-stick coatings, they probably contain either Teflon and/or the harmful substances that release these deadly fumes, and they need to be immediately disposed of...Also, NEVER use the self-cleaning function on the oven, as this too is usually lethal...

 

[lettie]

I too was concerned with the comment you made that having your bird's cage next to the kitchen is "terrible for the bird"??? What did you mean by that? There is nothing at all wrong with keeping your bird's cage near or even in the kitchen. In fact, all 4 of my larger parrot's cages are in my living-room and dining-room, which are connected to each other and also open to the kitchen. My house is a 3-story split-level, and the second level is the main living level, and has 3 rooms that are all open to each other...Not only that, but each of my birds has their own T-stand located IN THE KITCHEN, and all 4 of them absolutely love to sit on their stands in the kitchen while I cook. Then we all eat together at the same time. So there is nothing at all wrong with or bad, or "terrible" for your bird about having them near or in the kitchen...

As already mentioned, if you were thinking that having your bird's cage near/in the kitchen was "terrible for him" because your family is currently still using non-stick pots and pans that have a black-colored, non-stick coating on them (these are the ones that contain Teflon and/or PFOA's, PTFE's, etc.), you need to immediately stop your family/yourself from using these types of pots and pans!!! A separate room on the entire other side of the house, or on a different floor of the house, behind a closed-door, will not protect your bird from these fumes at all! This is unfortunately a very common misconception, and the reality is that it only takes one little whiff of these harmful fumes to instantly kill your bird. Closed-doors are not protection, and the fact is that these types of non-stick pots and pans just absolutely cannot be used in a home that has any type of bird. Period. I know of a family who were life-long breeders of Macaws, and who lost 40 healthy birds, from newly hatched babies to a 60 year-old Macaw, all within about 15 minutes. They had purchased a new small, ceramic space-heater, and they were running it in their kitchen. The space-heater contained a Teflon coating inside of it, which burnt-off during the first time they used it...They kept their 60 year-old pet Macaw, as well as a Cockatoo, down an entire floor in their finished basement, behind 2 different closed-doors, one at the top of the stairs, and then another to the room of the basement the birds were in...When 2 newly-hatched baby Macaws who were inside of Brooders in the kitchen/dining room area suddenly dropped over dead at the same time, and then their pet Cockatiel literally dropped out of the air, dead, while flying from his stand in the living room to the kitchen, they realized it had to be fumes, so they immediately turned off the space heater and threw it outside...Then they started carrying each bird outside in their cages, one by one, but unfortunately a total of 40 birds (most were Cockatiels living in an indoor aviary in the basement) were already dead, within 15 minutes of turning on the space heater, and only the 2 baby Macaws were located in/near the kitchen. The rest of their birds were either in a room on the same floor behind a closed door, or on a totally different floor of the house AND behind closed doors...and the fumes still got to them and killed them within minutes...And once your bird breathes-in just a second or two worth of those fumes, that's it, there's nothing you can do to help them...

So please, if people in your house are still currently using any pots, pans, bakeware, etc. that contains any type of black-colored non-stick coatings, they probably contain either Teflon and/or the harmful substances that release these deadly fumes, and they need to be immediately disposed of...Also, NEVER use the self-cleaning function on the oven, as this too is usually lethal...

Nobody in my family uses teflon, but thanks. lol

 

[EllenD]

I too was concerned with the comment you made that having your bird's cage next to the kitchen is "terrible for the bird"??? What did you mean by that? There is nothing at all wrong with keeping your bird's cage near or even in the kitchen. In fact, all 4 of my larger parrot's cages are in my living-room and dining-room, which are connected to each other and also open to the kitchen. My house is a 3-story split-level, and the second level is the main living level, and has 3 rooms that are all open to each other...Not only that, but each of my birds has their own T-stand located IN THE KITCHEN, and all 4 of them absolutely love to sit on their stands in the kitchen while I cook. Then we all eat together at the same time. So there is nothing at all wrong with or bad, or "terrible" for your bird about having them near or in the kitchen...

As already mentioned, if you were thinking that having your bird's cage near/in the kitchen was "terrible for him" because your family is currently still using non-stick pots and pans that have a black-colored, non-stick coating on them (these are the ones that contain Teflon and/or PFOA's, PTFE's, etc.), you need to immediately stop your family/yourself from using these types of pots and pans!!! A separate room on the entire other side of the house, or on a different floor of the house, behind a closed-door, will not protect your bird from these fumes at all! This is unfortunately a very common misconception, and the reality is that it only takes one little whiff of these harmful fumes to instantly kill your bird. Closed-doors are not protection, and the fact is that these types of non-stick pots and pans just absolutely cannot be used in a home that has any type of bird. Period. I know of a family who were life-long breeders of Macaws, and who lost 40 healthy birds, from newly hatched babies to a 60 year-old Macaw, all within about 15 minutes. They had purchased a new small, ceramic space-heater, and they were running it in their kitchen. The space-heater contained a Teflon coating inside of it, which burnt-off during the first time they used it...They kept their 60 year-old pet Macaw, as well as a Cockatoo, down an entire floor in their finished basement, behind 2 different closed-doors, one at the top of the stairs, and then another to the room of the basement the birds were in...When 2 newly-hatched baby Macaws who were inside of Brooders in the kitchen/dining room area suddenly dropped over dead at the same time, and then their pet Cockatiel literally dropped out of the air, dead, while flying from his stand in the living room to the kitchen, they realized it had to be fumes, so they immediately turned off the space heater and threw it outside...Then they started carrying each bird outside in their cages, one by one, but unfortunately a total of 40 birds (most were Cockatiels living in an indoor aviary in the basement) were already dead, within 15 minutes of turning on the space heater, and only the 2 baby Macaws were located in/near the kitchen. The rest of their birds were either in a room on the same floor behind a closed door, or on a totally different floor of the house AND behind closed doors...and the fumes still got to them and killed them within minutes...And once your bird breathes-in just a second or two worth of those fumes, that's it, there's nothing you can do to help them...

So please, if people in your house are still currently using any pots, pans, bakeware, etc. that contains any type of black-colored non-stick coatings, they probably contain either Teflon and/or the harmful substances that release these deadly fumes, and they need to be immediately disposed of...Also, NEVER use the self-cleaning function on the oven, as this too is usually lethal...

Nobody in my family uses teflon, but thanks. lol

Okay, that's good to know...I assumed that's what you meant by "it's terrible to keep them near the kitchen"...

Something that you'll find on this forum is that it is always better to be safe than sorry, always better to ask the question than not ask the question, and always better to take the time to provide people with the proper information for their birds, because 9 times out of 10 it will help them AND their birds...LOL

 

[lettie]

Okay, that's good to know...I assumed that's what you meant by "it's terrible to keep them near the kitchen"...

Something that you'll find on this forum is that it is always better to be safe than sorry, always better to ask the question than not ask the question, and always better to take the time to provide people with the proper information for their birds, because 9 times out of 10 it will help them AND their birds...LOL

Yeah, ofc! I'm sure someone in the future will appreciate your response.

 

[MonicaMc]

All I can think of is just because you don't use Teflon doesn't mean you aren't using PTFE...

PTFE is also sold under....

• T-Fal
• Silverstone
• Flura
• Excalibur
• Supra
• Xylon
• Greblon
• Resistal
• Duracote
• Autograph
• Scanpan
• etc....

(for anyone who may look back upon this thread)