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Re: African Ringneck needs his beauty sleep
First, being in your bedroom will NOT protect your bird from teflon poisoning if that is your concern with him being near the kitchen. The colorless, odorless fumes can certainly engulf an entire house and you'd never know it as it's rare for larger mammals/humans to get sick from it. If you're using nonstick teflon (PFOA/PTFE) cookware, you MUST get rid of all of it, regardless where your bird is located in your home.
Now, if you still opt to keep your bird in your room, just be sure he has his cage covered in a dark, solid color fabric. I think sleep cages are a waste of time and one more thing to clean/buy. No parrot in nature has a pitch black, dead silent sleeping environment. Anyone who's been camping knows nature is neither silent nor entirely dark at night (the moon!). Birds will adapt to their environment. The most important thing is making sure his cage is covered/uncovered at roughly the same time every night/morning year round so there is a clear difference (in his view) of "night" and "day". The caveat being, if you plan to throw a loud party in your room, you may want to move him elsewhere, but normal TV/conversation etc... isn't going to bother him.
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Re: African Ringneck needs his beauty sleep
First, being in your bedroom will NOT protect your bird from teflon poisoning if that is your concern with him being near the kitchen. The colorless, odorless fumes can certainly engulf an entire house and you'd never know it as it's rare for larger mammals/humans to get sick from it. If you're using nonstick teflon (PFOA/PTFE) cookware, you MUST get rid of all of it, regardless where your bird is located in your home.
Now, if you still opt to keep your bird in your room, just be sure he has his cage covered in a dark, solid color fabric. I think sleep cages are a waste of time and one more thing to clean/buy. No parrot in nature has a pitch black, dead silent sleeping environment. Anyone who's been camping knows nature is neither silent nor entirely dark at night (the moon!). Birds will adapt to their environment. The most important thing is making sure his cage is covered/uncovered at roughly the same time every night/morning year round so there is a clear difference (in his view) of "night" and "day". The caveat being, if you plan to throw a loud party in your room, you may want to move him elsewhere, but normal TV/conversation etc... isn't going to bother him. Thank you. I will definitely make sure to protect my bird from teflon poisoning. Thank you for that warning. ![]() |
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Re: African Ringneck needs his beauty sleep
I'm with Kiwibird... I've never "babied" my birds. I'm not particularly loud at night, but once the birds go to sleep, I don't try to be quiet, either.... I just do normal human stuff, and if something goes "bump" it's usually not a big deal.
I have a cockatiel(s), and cockatiels tend to be very sensitive to disturbances at night... so I don't even bother trying to keep things quiet so that they get used to various noises or light disturbances and don't have a night fright. If you can't sleep without sound, you can try playing some quiet music, maybe some nature sounds (although not necessarily 'jungle' sounds - depends on what is included!), leaving a fan on, etc. Make sure your bird isn't bothered by the noise and you should be set.
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Re: African Ringneck needs his beauty sleep
I'm with Kiwibird... I've never "babied" my birds. I'm not particularly loud at night, but once the birds go to sleep, I don't try to be quiet, either.... I just do normal human stuff, and if something goes "bump" it's usually not a big deal.
I have a cockatiel(s), and cockatiels tend to be very sensitive to disturbances at night... so I don't even bother trying to keep things quiet so that they get used to various noises or light disturbances and don't have a night fright. If you can't sleep without sound, you can try playing some quiet music, maybe some nature sounds (although not necessarily 'jungle' sounds - depends on what is included!), leaving a fan on, etc. Make sure your bird isn't bothered by the noise and you should be set. ![]() |
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Re: African Ringneck needs his beauty sleep
I think it depends on the bird. If they aren't sleeping, you will hear them moving and if that doesn't stop, you may have a light-sleeper who needs changes. That having been said, I WOULD NEVER move a cage with a cover over it and a new parrot...I think that could freak your bird out way more
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Re: African Ringneck needs his beauty sleep
I was reminded as to why my birds *need* to be okay with noises that go "bump" in the night.... the house sits underneath a freakin black walnut tree! And when they fall, it sounds like someone is throwing a tennis ball at the house! They fall day or night...
But even before we lived there, I still didn't try to keep things quiet.
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Re: African Ringneck needs his beauty sleep
I think it depends on the bird. If they aren't sleeping, you will hear them moving and if that doesn't stop, you may have a light-sleeper who needs changes. That having been said, I WOULD NEVER move a cage with a cover over it and a new parrot...I think that could freak your bird out way more
You're right. I thought new surroundings would stress him out. Guess they both lose lose situations for my little parrot. Appreciate the response Last edited by lettie; 10-04-2018 at 12:36 AM. Reason: Typo |
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I too was concerned with the comment you made that having your bird's cage next to the kitchen is "terrible for the bird"??? What did you mean by that? There is nothing at all wrong with keeping your bird's cage near or even in the kitchen. In fact, all 4 of my larger parrot's cages are in my living-room and dining-room, which are connected to each other and also open to the kitchen. My house is a 3-story split-level, and the second level is the main living level, and has 3 rooms that are all open to each other...Not only that, but each of my birds has their own T-stand located IN THE KITCHEN, and all 4 of them absolutely love to sit on their stands in the kitchen while I cook. Then we all eat together at the same time. So there is nothing at all wrong with or bad, or "terrible" for your bird about having them near or in the kitchen...
As already mentioned, if you were thinking that having your bird's cage near/in the kitchen was "terrible for him" because your family is currently still using non-stick pots and pans that have a black-colored, non-stick coating on them (these are the ones that contain Teflon and/or PFOA's, PTFE's, etc.), you need to immediately stop your family/yourself from using these types of pots and pans!!! A separate room on the entire other side of the house, or on a different floor of the house, behind a closed-door, will not protect your bird from these fumes at all! This is unfortunately a very common misconception, and the reality is that it only takes one little whiff of these harmful fumes to instantly kill your bird. Closed-doors are not protection, and the fact is that these types of non-stick pots and pans just absolutely cannot be used in a home that has any type of bird. Period. I know of a family who were life-long breeders of Macaws, and who lost 40 healthy birds, from newly hatched babies to a 60 year-old Macaw, all within about 15 minutes. They had purchased a new small, ceramic space-heater, and they were running it in their kitchen. The space-heater contained a Teflon coating inside of it, which burnt-off during the first time they used it...They kept their 60 year-old pet Macaw, as well as a Cockatoo, down an entire floor in their finished basement, behind 2 different closed-doors, one at the top of the stairs, and then another to the room of the basement the birds were in...When 2 newly-hatched baby Macaws who were inside of Brooders in the kitchen/dining room area suddenly dropped over dead at the same time, and then their pet Cockatiel literally dropped out of the air, dead, while flying from his stand in the living room to the kitchen, they realized it had to be fumes, so they immediately turned off the space heater and threw it outside...Then they started carrying each bird outside in their cages, one by one, but unfortunately a total of 40 birds (most were Cockatiels living in an indoor aviary in the basement) were already dead, within 15 minutes of turning on the space heater, and only the 2 baby Macaws were located in/near the kitchen. The rest of their birds were either in a room on the same floor behind a closed door, or on a totally different floor of the house AND behind closed doors...and the fumes still got to them and killed them within minutes...And once your bird breathes-in just a second or two worth of those fumes, that's it, there's nothing you can do to help them... So please, if people in your house are still currently using any pots, pans, bakeware, etc. that contains any type of black-colored non-stick coatings, they probably contain either Teflon and/or the harmful substances that release these deadly fumes, and they need to be immediately disposed of...Also, NEVER use the self-cleaning function on the oven, as this too is usually lethal...
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Re: African Ringneck needs his beauty sleep
I too was concerned with the comment you made that having your bird's cage next to the kitchen is "terrible for the bird"??? What did you mean by that? There is nothing at all wrong with keeping your bird's cage near or even in the kitchen. In fact, all 4 of my larger parrot's cages are in my living-room and dining-room, which are connected to each other and also open to the kitchen. My house is a 3-story split-level, and the second level is the main living level, and has 3 rooms that are all open to each other...Not only that, but each of my birds has their own T-stand located IN THE KITCHEN, and all 4 of them absolutely love to sit on their stands in the kitchen while I cook. Then we all eat together at the same time. So there is nothing at all wrong with or bad, or "terrible" for your bird about having them near or in the kitchen...
As already mentioned, if you were thinking that having your bird's cage near/in the kitchen was "terrible for him" because your family is currently still using non-stick pots and pans that have a black-colored, non-stick coating on them (these are the ones that contain Teflon and/or PFOA's, PTFE's, etc.), you need to immediately stop your family/yourself from using these types of pots and pans!!! A separate room on the entire other side of the house, or on a different floor of the house, behind a closed-door, will not protect your bird from these fumes at all! This is unfortunately a very common misconception, and the reality is that it only takes one little whiff of these harmful fumes to instantly kill your bird. Closed-doors are not protection, and the fact is that these types of non-stick pots and pans just absolutely cannot be used in a home that has any type of bird. Period. I know of a family who were life-long breeders of Macaws, and who lost 40 healthy birds, from newly hatched babies to a 60 year-old Macaw, all within about 15 minutes. They had purchased a new small, ceramic space-heater, and they were running it in their kitchen. The space-heater contained a Teflon coating inside of it, which burnt-off during the first time they used it...They kept their 60 year-old pet Macaw, as well as a Cockatoo, down an entire floor in their finished basement, behind 2 different closed-doors, one at the top of the stairs, and then another to the room of the basement the birds were in...When 2 newly-hatched baby Macaws who were inside of Brooders in the kitchen/dining room area suddenly dropped over dead at the same time, and then their pet Cockatiel literally dropped out of the air, dead, while flying from his stand in the living room to the kitchen, they realized it had to be fumes, so they immediately turned off the space heater and threw it outside...Then they started carrying each bird outside in their cages, one by one, but unfortunately a total of 40 birds (most were Cockatiels living in an indoor aviary in the basement) were already dead, within 15 minutes of turning on the space heater, and only the 2 baby Macaws were located in/near the kitchen. The rest of their birds were either in a room on the same floor behind a closed door, or on a totally different floor of the house AND behind closed doors...and the fumes still got to them and killed them within minutes...And once your bird breathes-in just a second or two worth of those fumes, that's it, there's nothing you can do to help them... So please, if people in your house are still currently using any pots, pans, bakeware, etc. that contains any type of black-colored non-stick coatings, they probably contain either Teflon and/or the harmful substances that release these deadly fumes, and they need to be immediately disposed of...Also, NEVER use the self-cleaning function on the oven, as this too is usually lethal... |
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