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Just added this lovely 4 - 5 month old IRN to my birds.Was told a Lutino, probably a hen. Colurs seem a bit pale and a little patchy to be just a Lutino. Any thoughts from anyone?
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. You can't tell the gender of a ringneck until s/he is 17 months old (unless you do a DNA test)
Don't know much about the mutation though. Could be a lutino X albino mix not quite sure... Either way s/he's cute!:D
 

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I can't help you but another name of albino is blue lutino so it's imposible what ChocolateCipsCookiez said. Maybe lutino or lacewing but I am not IRN expert
 

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I can’t see the images at all but it sounds like you are describing a creamino, which would be a patchy yellow bird, not as bright as a lutino.

Any “ino” is more likely to be a female than a male. You can tell gender based on mutation sometimes if you know what colors the parents are. If the mother was not ino and the baby is, then the baby is a girl,

Lacewing is a nickname for pallid. Only male birds can be both pallid and ino, and that is called “pallidino.” If the mother is neither pallid nor ino then the baby cannot be pallidino.

Creamino is turquoise-ino.

-Lutino (bright yellow) is a mutation that removes all blue, grey, and black, it turns a green bird yellow.

-blue is a mutation that removes all the yellow, orange, pink, and red from a green bird, turning it blue. Whiteface in cockatiels is truly the blue mutation.

-turquoise is a “parblue” mutation. Basically it brushes some of that yellow back into the blue bird.

-albino is blue-ino, creamino is turquoise-ino. The amount of yellow will vary from bird to bird.


Here are some examples.
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Looking at the pictures that you have put up SilverSage I would say most likely a Creamino. Unfortunately I have no idea on the parent birds as I didn't get the bird from the breeder, but from someone wishing to rehome. So I just have to wait around 12 months and I'll have some idea on gender.
Thanks everyone for your input, much appreciated.
 

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I highly recommend a dna treat since a ring can take 3 years to develop and a test only costs $12-$20.


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Dani, I saw the photos. Hopefully this can help you. The splotchy is hardly visible - I had to struggle to see it. Totally making this up but lutino lacewing comes to mind. Definitely white primaries.
 

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Lutino and “lacewing” which is rightly known as pallid can only be combined in male birds, and would be correctly called a green pallidino. They are pale and washed out, but really not patchy unless they are a TURQUOISE pallidino. Are the wing feathers marked similarly to these?
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Thanks! Creamino for sure. Aka turquoise-ino.


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Me too! Lol and you know I’m a genetics nerd lol


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Yep! I would be too if I paid half attention anymore. I was a genetics nerd for the longest time with orchids, and just sort of gave up. Quintessential millennial who can’t be botheres wothbanything that requires more than 10 seconds of attention.
 

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Lol I have a tiny orchid that’s been tempting me to get more into them. I bought it as a “espresso orchid” but I’m pretty sure that name is based on the little cup it was in.


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Thanks everyone for helping me put a stamp of Creamino on my bird it's much appreciated. Not that it really mattered as he/she will never be bred but it is nice to know for sure.
 

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It’s fun to know :) knowledge for the sake of knowledge is still valuable :)

In the USA creamino is not truly rare but is relatively uncommon.


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