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Old 08-21-2019, 08:02 AM
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Re: Is this an Indian Ringneck

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It's the black ring around the neck that is the proof. Only males get them, I think that colour also gets a white line at the back above the black too, but I'm not sure. Look up male blue IRN and you'll find what he'll look like when it's all finished growing in. The females stay blue and don't get a ring.
Except that's not blue! That's considered teal.
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Re: Is this an Indian Ringneck

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Adult male teal indian ringneck, what yours will look like grown. I am with the understanding that males reach sexual maturity, as well as develop the ring at around 3 years of age, I may be wrong as mine are both still very young, but if I'm correct your bird would be closer to 3 years than 15 months.

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Re: Is this an Indian Ringneck

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1) yes, Indian Ringneck
2) that is 100% for sure a MALE, absolutely no possibility of this being a female.
3) your bird is blue. Blue is the name of the gene, there is no such mutation as “teal” in Indian Ringnecks. There are “parblue” mutations (blue gene combined with a gene that adds back some of the green), these include turquoise, sapphire, aqua, and emerald; your bird is none of these, he is blue.
4) since the ring is just coming in now, your bird is 1-3 years old. There is a SLIGHT possibility he may be as old as 4 years, but not likely.


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It's the black ring around the neck that is the proof. Only males get them, I think that colour also gets a white line at the back above the black too, but I'm not sure. Look up male blue IRN and you'll find what he'll look like when it's all finished growing in. The females stay blue and don't get a ring.
Except that's not blue! That's considered teal.


Sorry; no such mutation as “teal” in IRNs. The bird in question is blue.


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Re: Is this an Indian Ringneck

Turqoise-teal you see the mistake, blue-cobalt, that's still not blue! My male is cobalt, and is blue. Let's settle down a bit eh? So would you be saying the female I posted above is not a turquoise lacewing as she was sold to me?
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Re: Is this an Indian Ringneck

After looking at a different picture of him, he is darker than I saw at first, perhaps a flash brightened him up, I now see the blue vs my female, my apologies.
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Re: Is this an Indian Ringneck

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Turqoise-teal you see the mistake, blue-cobalt, that's still not blue! My male is cobalt, and is blue. Let's settle down a bit eh? So would you be saying the female I posted above is not a turquoise lacewing as she was sold to me?


Your bird looks to me like a turquoise pallid, which is nicknamed a turquoise lacewing. Lacewing is a nickname that can be confusing because it applies to other genes in other species.

Cobalt is also a nickname for the mutation “dark.” A “cobalt” Indian Ringneck is a single factor Dark blue. It’s a very specific gene combo. I have two. A double factor Dark blue is called “mauve.” The OP’s bird is not turquoise, not cobalt, he is definitely blue.

It’s actually pretty important to refer to genes by their names rather than just describing their appearance because it impacts value and can lead to accidental dishonesty. Here’s an example; a woman advertised her IRN as “emerald” because the bird is a brilliant green. Really, the bird is GREEN, and that’s what it needs to be called. In the USA a green IRN is worth $100-$200 wild for breeding purposes. A single factor emerald on the other hand is worth $1000-$1300. See how that could lead to some major confusion?


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