Irn mutation examples

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I’m working on some things for my website and thought I would share the images with you all since from time to time we get questions on this. All works in progress of course but maybe helpful to some; I’ll add more as I make them.
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Absolutely fabulous, thank you for sharing :)

Also, I think I just got a headache wrapping my head around the different kinds. Mad credit for KNOWING and being able to identify such a variety!
 
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Lol I love it; we are all just different versions of nerds lol


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Wow, the violet one is so beautiful!! Is he double factor?



No, but they easily appear darker or lighter based on the lighting which is one reason I like people to see multiple examples. There are a lot of pictures of blue Ringnecks for example that make them look almost blue green, and people want that color, not realizing it really is just a trick of the light and the camera. Here’s anther picture of the same bird, on a different day, at a different time of day.

This is Ka’iulani

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Wow! Lovely. Thank you. Now if you could just run through what male and female mutations produce those shown above... ;)
 
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Wow! Lovely. Thank you. Now if you could just run through what male and female mutations produce those shown above... ;)



Sure lol but which specific bird are you asking about?


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Dani, your birds are magnificent. I also think the violet-in both pics-is really stunning.


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Dani, your birds are magnificent. I also think the violet-in both pics-is really stunning.


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Thank you! I truly delight in them :) and really am a believer that health brings out their beauty. The sunshine and flight do what I never could :)


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This isn’t really a comparison pic but it’s one I took this week;
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Elayne, female emerald
Boramire and Faramire, male emeralds split to cinnamon
Kelsier, male violet


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Wow! Lovely. Thank you. Now if you could just run through what male and female mutations produce those shown above... ;)



Sure lol but which specific bird are you asking about?


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Sorry, just joking, I meant all of them! I have absolutely no doubt you could!! They're incredible. My favourite is the turquoise.

Just a bonus question if you don't mind... I don't know the proper term, but is there no red colours in the IRN world?
 
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Wow! Lovely. Thank you. Now if you could just run through what male and female mutations produce those shown above... ;)







Sure lol but which specific bird are you asking about?





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Sorry, just joking, I meant all of them! I have absolutely no doubt you could!! They're incredible. My favourite is the turquoise.



Just a bonus question if you don't mind... I don't know the proper term, but is there no red colours in the IRN world?



Well turquoise is pretty simple; you need one blue gene and one turquoise gene, or two turquoise genes :) sex doesn’t matter in this case.

Mutations don’t add colors, they can only take them away. The natural color of a ringneck is green which doesn’t have red as one of its base colors.

But IRNs don’t have purple or grey, right? And we still get those colors?

Some mutations are structural, rather than pigment. That means they do not change the amount or location of pigment, they change the structure of the feather on a microscopic level which changes how the feather surface refracts light. For example, a grey IRN has the SAME pigment as a blue irn. It basically just has the “sparkly bits” removed so our eyes perceive it differently. Violet and Dark factor (which makes cobalt, mauve, and olive) are also structural. I don’t think there is any structural change to the clear layers of a feather that could make us perceive any of the components of a green bird as red :)


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Some more!
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The real purpose of these is to help people choose a color or to help them figure out what color they already have. I’m working on a gallery for my website but I’m hoping they can help here as well.

I did have someone try to pass my birds off as his today, which was annoying.
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Is it another "light-and-part-of-day" trick or blue cleartail has a blue head? I always thought they have white tail and head:eek:



Moiraine is a FEMALE blue cleartail; they do not get white heads :) you may be confusing the mutation with pallid, many people do :) only mature male cleartails have clear heads, but all pallid have clear heads :)


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Is it another "light-and-part-of-day" trick or blue cleartail has a blue head? I always thought they have white tail and head:eek:



Moiraine is a FEMALE blue cleartail; they do not get white heads :) you may be confusing the mutation with pallid, many people do :) only mature male cleartails have clear heads, but all pallid have clear heads :)


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Thank you for explaining, now I understand it better.:) I'm not IRN expert, I have only based knowledge of different parrot mutations;) My confusing is little more comlicated. I'm not sure if you remember when we were disscusing about "pastel" and "parlutino"? We understood they can be "local" names used here. This is the next example - Cleartail here generally also is named as "cleartail" but also has Polish name which means "yellow head and tail" and this made thinking me they have yellow tails and heads:D I had had to see only male cleartails untill now;) In turn pallid I don't know why here often is named as "lacewing". I know this is so confusing also to me - this can be understood as "pallid" or "cinnamon lutino". I don't like this name and prefer "pallid":)
 

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