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Old 05-22-2020, 01:46 PM
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Re: Can I trust my breeder?

I don't think I'll be able to ever get the answer unfortunately.
She just confirmed the birds were born in February, just gonna have to her word for it!

Another question, I don't own a car so I'll be taking a train/London underground.
The trip is only about 1,5 hours, is this okay for the bird?
I have a decent travel cage and will probably throw a blanket over it if that makes it less anxious?
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Old 05-22-2020, 01:52 PM
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Re: Can I trust my breeder?

It's going to be stressful for the bird either way. Try to jostle him/her around as little as you can and yes-- I would cover during the trip (just because I think that it would be overwhelming to see all of the movement and people when your bird doesn't know you yet---rarely, would I say to cover during travel, but I would (personally) in this instance..)

1. Can you get it to a vet near you in the future using the tube?

2. Can you time pick-ups to where it isn't exposed to extreme temperatures in the winter? I get cold there and I can regulate my temperature better than a bird. In an emergency- could you call a cab?
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Old 05-22-2020, 01:56 PM
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Re: Can I trust my breeder?

I can definitely get to an avian vet by tube, I've found a few that I might visit in the first week. (is that a good time for a vet visit?)

Also, I'll be getting the bird in 2 weeks so no need for cold temps, the tubes, however, are very hot and sweaty, I'm trying my best to find a route using just normal trains or tubes that go overground to minimize heat.
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Old 05-22-2020, 02:11 PM
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Re: Can I trust my breeder?

I'm trying to think of long-term situations. Hot can be too hot, and cold can be too cold. You will have this bird (in theory) for 14 (ish) years, if not more...so make sure you can get where you need to go without stressing it out (in the event of illness).
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Re: Can I trust my breeder?

Ohh yes, I misunderstood.
I can always get a cab or I have friends that could potentially drive me. (when COVID-19 is gone lol).

I'll make sure to regulate the temperature!
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Re: Can I trust my breeder?

There is a member here who I'm sure will be along shortly and has so much experience with IRNs they'll probably be able to tell you age, personality, favourite food and shoe size after looking at your photo! Might be worth putting the others on if you have further questions about age and condition.

I'm in the UK too and it seems very strange to me that they don't have rings. Looks to me like they're scared in the photo too as they've moved away from the person taking the photo. They don't look used to people to me. Are they meant to be? They look in lovely condition though, which also doesn't suggest babies because they tend to be clumsy and mess up their lovely tails. Do all the photos seem to be the same birds?

I'm not clear if you're saying you're having one of these birds or whether the seller is saying they've all gone already? If this encouraged you to buy could it have been a tactic to put you under pressure?

There is something I just don't like about this I'm afraid. I hope you haven't given a deposit or anything yet...?

She will openly tell you she's a "trader", but the birds are from a "friend". It seems like a convenient way to say she doesn't know any details because they aren't her birds, but also she can answer lots of questions with authority because she knows the breeder... I just don't like it.
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Re: Can I trust my breeder?

Hi there thanks for responding!

They do seem very afraid in every picture I have of them, which I will attach.
Since they're not handfed but parent fed maybe they haven't seen hands before? Or maybe they're scared of the phone? I don't really know.

I think she had more than 3 before I spoke to her, she said she picked up some new birds from that breeder yesterday or the day before and might be sold out when I got there but that she would have more the day after I originally was going to visit. (If that even makes sense). Since then she said she would make sure to keep one ready for me.

I will visit the birds first before making any decision, it just seems very hard to find a good breeder in my area. Besides the 'trader' thing she has been the only one that actually bothered to speak to me like a normal person! Is that normal in breeders?

I've also not seen many advertisements with birds who have rings?
I assumed they sell so fast they don't bother to ring them, maybe they just don't care for them I don't know..

I just want a happy healthy birb!
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Re: Can I trust my breeder?

The person sounds fair to me
I deal with people like this all the time, in fact I'm a big breeder myself
If you can't tell there sex with IRN at this point of time....its obvious that they must be young as they are, once reaching maturity, sexually dimorphic

Most of the time, its not the breeders duty to ring the young and you shouldn't hold anything against them or not doing so, birds are only rung if: They are being sexed, the are breeders or they are particular birds they want to identify

As long as the price is right and they have been well cared for.....I don't see a problem
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Re: Can I trust my breeder?

Thanks so much!

I've agreed on a pick-up date and will be picking the bird up on the 3rd of june!

Since this is my first 'bigger' bird I just wanted to make sure I did everything right.

Thanks for all the help to everyone that commented. I shall post a picture once he/she gets here!

One last thing, what companies are recommended for DNA testing in the UK?
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Re: Can I trust my breeder?

This video is abouthow to identify the age of a irn

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=w9vKhp3tf2k
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