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Hey all!!!
My girlfriend and I have just welcomed into our family Titch - a 10 week old rainbow lorikeet. Hes such a gem, we're loving him and he seems to really have settled in.

I'm just looking for a few beginner points/advice.
Hes hand raised so he's already very comfortable with both of us and is very eager to chill on our shoulders.
Im just looking for some tips in regards to play - what do you think works well and is stimulating
Im also wanting some advice on training.

I am looking to build a little play pen with branches so he can climb, and some rope and things like that - does anyone have some DIY play area ideas??

He is a little skwarker, and wont stop this skreeching noise (think almost like a pig). We were told that this is because hes still a little baby - does anyone else have any experience with this?
He loves his nectar, but isnt too keen on the harder lori pellets. We were told that this is because he is young too - does anyone have any clue when we should expect him to be more interested in that.

Lastly, does anyone have any advice for a good avian vet in the melbourne region.

Sorry for all the questions. Im very excited with this little one, we have so much love for Titch. Any general pointers on how to give him the best life possible would be really appreciated )

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Welcome to the forums! Congratulations on your new baby!

Before you do anything else, check out the forums and read the 'stickies' (instructive posts at the top of each topic). You'll get lots of ideas there and it saves being forced to read a massive amount in one sitting.

The main things you want to do at the moment are to slowly and calmly get to know your baby and let him get to know you. Watch him carefully to see what he enjoys and what might scare him. Offer him different foods (always choose 'safe' foods - check that out in our dietary section) and find out what he likes most because that'll be the treat you use to train him later on.

Mostly, though, enjoy him! I'm happy to hear you want to provide him with lots of play opportunities and chances to stretch himself. We can help with all that! Don't be afraid to ask questions!

PS. Forgot to add: An 'avian vet' is not a common thing in Australia. If you're lucky, you'll be able to find one who has a special interest in birds, but you may not. Don't be nervous to have faith in the vet you choose, even if he's not a bird-bloke. All vets know avian anatomy and physiology and should be able to treat yours appropriately. The blokes who are interested in birds generally know more about behaviour and the more unusual aspects of avian biology. Ask a local vet if he's aware of a bird specialist in your general area. Or, ask a pet-shop or bird breeder.

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Hello, and welcome to the Forum to you and Titch! Always good to have another lorikeet parent on the Forum

At only 10 weeks old, Titch is still very much a baby, and the sounds you describe are fairly typical of baby rainbow lorikeets. I'm glad you have asked about finding a bird vet, as I always recommend new owners should have a wellness check performed by a Certified Avian Vet early on in order to rule out any viral nasties, like psittacine beak and feather disease and psittacosis. You can use the link below to find one close to you in Melbourne...

https://www.aav.org/

A good avian vet will also be an invaluable resource in terms of help with behavioural issues and training. You can also have Titch DNA sexed which can be enormously helpful information to have if health or behavioural issues arise later on. Some vets also work in association with behaviouralists and trainers so it's worth enquiring about that with your vet too.

In terms of food, I don't feed those lorikeet pellets since their whole physiology is based around a diet of soft foods like fruit and nectar. In my very humble opinion, those pellets are made more for human convenience than the bird's well-being, since the idea of them is to make that liquid poop more solid and a bit easier to clean up. Personally I'm not sure they accomplish that either and really just leave you with a constipated lorikeet! My little purple crowned Princess gets her wet mix for about 3 or 4 hours in the morning, and I give her dry powdered nectar for the rest of the day. I keep her food supply well away from her water dish because she tends to fling her food a bit and it helps to keep the water cleaner for longer that way. You can also offer bottlebrush, eucalyptus and grevillea flowers, just make sure you harvest them from sources away from main roads and where no pesticides have been used - although that last bit can be a bit tricky to know for sure.

I have included a link below with heaps of info about lorikeet behaviours from a breeder in NZ. The web page has a lot of details about the good, the bad and the ugly of a whole host of lorikeet species.....

The Lory Link

You can also try to make Titch work harder for food, which is a great way to burn off some of that crazy lorikeet energy. The more time and effort they expend on obtaining food the less energy they have to misbehave! I have included some links below.




Unfortunately I am not the best person to ask in terms of training tips - my purple crowned terrorist pretty much runs things in my house so I'm afraid I won't be much help to you there! I do know that rainbow lorikeets can become very dominant and aggressive once they reach sexual maturity, so my advice would be to establish good habits while Titch is young so that you have that foundation to work with if/when those hormones become a factor. Lorys can easily become hyper-stimulated and get bitey so you should try to ensure that play sessions end before he gets a little too carried away.

Other than that, welcome aboard, and don't forget to post some photos when you can, we love baby photos around here

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Welcome and be welcomed.

I am a firm believer that training , on a regular basis, is a great way to establish and maintain a close bond with your parrot. My Amazon Salty and I train every single night, learning tricks, putting on and taking off his harness, and other things. Figure out what his verry favorite treat is and use that for training. U can see the results in his videos, link below.
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Re: Tips for a new owner

Quote: Originally Posted by Betrisher View Post
Welcome to the forums! Congratulations on your new baby!

Before you do anything else, check out the forums and read the 'stickies' (instructive posts at the top of each topic). You'll get lots of ideas there and it saves being forced to read a massive amount in one sitting.

The main things you want to do at the moment are to slowly and calmly get to know your baby and let him get to know you. Watch him carefully to see what he enjoys and what might scare him. Offer him different foods (always choose 'safe' foods - check that out in our dietary section) and find out what he likes most because that'll be the treat you use to train him later on.

Mostly, though, enjoy him! I'm happy to hear you want to provide him with lots of play opportunities and chances to stretch himself. We can help with all that! Don't be afraid to ask questions!

PS. Forgot to add: An 'avian vet' is not a common thing in Australia. If you're lucky, you'll be able to find one who has a special interest in birds, but you may not. Don't be nervous to have faith in the vet you choose, even if he's not a bird-bloke. All vets know avian anatomy and physiology and should be able to treat yours appropriately. The blokes who are interested in birds generally know more about behaviour and the more unusual aspects of avian biology. Ask a local vet if he's aware of a bird specialist in your general area. Or, ask a pet-shop or bird breeder.

Hey Betrisher, Thanks so much!!!
Where are the stickies?? Are they the forum threads on the front page of the lory forum?? Sorry - im a bit new to forums haha.
I really appreciate the friendliness Ill be sure to drop any questions I have !
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Re: Tips for a new owner

Quote: Originally Posted by LaManuka View Post
Hello, and welcome to the Forum to you and Titch! Always good to have another lorikeet parent on the Forum

At only 10 weeks old, Titch is still very much a baby, and the sounds you describe are fairly typical of baby rainbow lorikeets. I'm glad you have asked about finding a bird vet, as I always recommend new owners should have a wellness check performed by a Certified Avian Vet early on in order to rule out any viral nasties, like psittacine beak and feather disease and psittacosis. You can use the link below to find one close to you in Melbourne...

https://www.aav.org/

A good avian vet will also be an invaluable resource in terms of help with behavioural issues and training. You can also have Titch DNA sexed which can be enormously helpful information to have if health or behavioural issues arise later on. Some vets also work in association with behaviouralists and trainers so it's worth enquiring about that with your vet too.

In terms of food, I don't feed those lorikeet pellets since their whole physiology is based around a diet of soft foods like fruit and nectar. In my very humble opinion, those pellets are made more for human convenience than the bird's well-being, since the idea of them is to make that liquid poop more solid and a bit easier to clean up. Personally I'm not sure they accomplish that either and really just leave you with a constipated lorikeet! My little purple crowned Princess gets her wet mix for about 3 or 4 hours in the morning, and I give her dry powdered nectar for the rest of the day. I keep her food supply well away from her water dish because she tends to fling her food a bit and it helps to keep the water cleaner for longer that way. You can also offer bottlebrush, eucalyptus and grevillea flowers, just make sure you harvest them from sources away from main roads and where no pesticides have been used - although that last bit can be a bit tricky to know for sure.

I have included the links below with heaps of info about lorikeet behaviours from a breeder in NZ. The web page has a lot of details about the good, the bad and the ugly of a whole host of lorikeet species.....

The Lory Link

Lory Link

You can also try to make Titch work harder for food, which is a great way to burn off some of that crazy lorikeet energy. The more time and effort they expend on obtaining food the less energy they have to misbehave! I have included some links below.

https://youtu.be/qdo13xzZ-O8

https://youtu.be/OeBVSPKUVIo

https://youtu.be/oU0jFQkjYu4

Unfortunately I am not the best person to ask in terms of training tips - my purple crowned terrorist pretty much runs things in my house so I'm afraid I won't be much help to you there! I do know that rainbow lorikeets can become very dominant and aggressive once they reach sexual maturity, so my advice would be to establish good habits while Titch is young so that you have that foundation to work with if/when those hormones become a factor. Lorys can easily become hyper-stimulated and get bitey so you should try to ensure that play sessions end before he gets a little too carried away.

Other than that, welcome aboard, and don't forget to post some photos when you can, we love baby photos around here

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Hey LaManuka, I really appreciate this help!!
So you recommend going to an avian vet as early as possible? Not waiting a year and doing like a yearly checkup (I saw that suggested somewhere). I was also sold a working ointment/oil from the shop - but I read here on the forum that worming treatment is usually not necessary. Do you have thoughts on this?

Good call about the pellets, thats noted. Also its good to know about flowers, Ill have to do some foraging!!Titch has been attacking some of the seedlings that we've got growing at the moment - which is cute but not great for my gardening prospects.

Thats so funny that you call your bird a terrorist - I did actually LOL.
In regards to biting, Titch does bite a bit, how do we try and curb that behavior??
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Re: Tips for a new owner

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Welcome and be welcomed.

I am a firm believer that training , on a regular basis, is a great way to establish and maintain a close bond with your parrot. My Amazon Salty and I train every single night, learning tricks, putting on and taking off his harness, and other things. Figure out what his verry favorite treat is and use that for training. U can see the results in his videos, link below.
Awesome!!! What is your usual procedure when training? Spending time and positive enforcement with treats?? Ive checked out your yt, looks great!

We got a harness, but made a mistake of trying to put it on on the second day we had it - lets just say it was traumatic for all involved. We had nice cuddles and gained trust back though and haven't touched the harness since. Do you have any tips on getting a bird used to a harness?? I'm thinking of introducing it slowly and incrementally - staring with just seeing it, then around his neck, then around his body and treating when it goes well. Do you have any advice in regards to getting him used to a harness?
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Hey Betrisher, Thanks so much!!!
Where are the stickies?? Are they the forum threads on the front page of the lory forum?? Sorry - im a bit new to forums haha.
I really appreciate the friendliness Ill be sure to drop any questions I have !

They're at the top of each forum. Just click on the forum title and you'll see the stickies at the top.
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Hey LaManuka, I really appreciate this help!!
So you recommend going to an avian vet as early as possible? Not waiting a year and doing like a yearly checkup (I saw that suggested somewhere). I was also sold a working ointment/oil from the shop - but I read here on the forum that worming treatment is usually not necessary. Do you have thoughts on this?

Good call about the pellets, thats noted. Also its good to know about flowers, Ill have to do some foraging!!Titch has been attacking some of the seedlings that we've got growing at the moment - which is cute but not great for my gardening prospects.

Thats so funny that you call your bird a terrorist - I did actually LOL.
In regards to biting, Titch does bite a bit, how do we try and curb that behavior??
In answer to your first question Jeremy, yes yes yes I definitely recommend a visit to a certified avian vet as soon as you are able and then an annual check-up from there, for all the reasons mentioned and many more. A good vet is essential for bird owners far more than for almost any other kind of pet, as birds are masters at disguising illness. Too many people have discovered to their cost that their bird is desperately ill and that it's far too late to save them. The sooner you can establish a baseline of health for your lorikeet, and get a good relationship going with their vet, the better off you will all be in the longer term. Your vet will also take care of things like worming for you, that way you know it's done right the first time. Many birds only have it done once and never need it again if they don't come into contact with other birds.

When you do go to the vet, have them DNA sex test your lorikeet. Biting behaviours can vary between male and female lorikeets and it will be handy to know in advance which gender you have so you know what set of behaviours you're likely to be dealing with. A very wise person once said that the best way to avoid being bitten is to avoid being bitten in the first place. Sounds simplistic, but essentially it means ending interactions before the biting starts so that bad habits are not entrenched. This is not to say that you will never get bitten, it pretty much comes with the territory with bird ownership. Eventually you will learn how to read the signs that Titch is getting a bit overwrought and is likely to bite, so it should become easier to avoid as your relationship develops.

Many people will tell you to do everything you can to avoid any kind of interaction with a parrot that they may in any way perceive as sexual. This is good advice generally but I believe it is essential with lorikeets, because they can be SO easily over-stimulated into aggression. So this means no tickling under the wings, no scratching or petting other than around the head and neck, no access to a happy hut or hidey hole or anything that might be even remotely perceived as a nesting site. Even in a bird as young as Titch is, I would recommend that you make sure not to start anything that might turn into a bad habit later on. Rainbow lorikeets are very socially complex and dominating birds, so as cute and sweet as Titch is now, these are behaviours that have evolved over millions of years and is something he will have no control over when he does mature. I don't mean to scare you with this information, but as they say, forewarned is fore-armed. Please do read the link that I gave you because it will provide valuable insight. And again, this is yet another reason to establish a relationship early with a certified avian vet.

Unfortunately there are no "stickies" here as yet about lorikeet behaviours. I wish there were because they really are quite different to any other parrot species. But there are stickies in the "Training" forum and a lot of info to be had in that forum generally. And do follow wrench13's advice about training too, he's a master at what he does!
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